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Pennywise Reged: 10/01/12 Posts: 2356 |
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Quote: I think taking an absolutist approach, as to the validity of the metaphysical realm hyperspace, is either way (definitely real or definitely not) to fall into the same pointless trap. The only thing I know for sure -and perhaps the only thing that matters to me- is that it is real while I am there. Just as I think it is pointless to dismiss this reality while I am here! I can't know why I know, now I am here, but I can know why I know when I am there, and so to dismiss hyperspace -while straight- seems as flawed an approach to me, as dismissing our consensual reality while in hyperspace (which I constantly do btw). But I wonder if this debate is not essentially a rationalist vs mysticist one? Debating the existence of God, with none of us possibly being able to know for sure either way, but taking a certain comfort in being free from the existential doubt and uncertainty from having at least taken a position (I fall more into the yes camp btw!)? One side fearing/resisting the reality of hyperspace (which lets be fair makes a horrifying mockery of consensual reality and would shake a God fearing conservative Christian to his very core) and the other side fearing and resisting simple nothingness? Personally I could believe hyperspace was illusionary up to a point (or dose). The difficulties in dismissing the experience as mere hallucination or subconscious-manifestation, for myself, comes from one certain experience I had in which I saw the mechanical machines/aliens doing things so utterly beyond my human experience (and therefore human/subconscious reference points) and so faaaar beyond my sober and sane ability (although my mind was sober) to even comprehend -let alone express- that I feel it would be completely disingenuous of me to dismiss them now while sober. The sheer technological complexity of what they were showing me (complexity that seemed purposefully designed to validate their existence) is just too far beyond my comprehension and ability to understand or explain away. I believe the reason that DMT (and Salvia) can be so terrifying is not because it rips us out of consensual reality for a while, but because it is a red pill experience (in the matrix/movie sense not a political sense). Hang on! Yeah I wanted a wild ride with magical elves and aliens but I didn't expect/want it to actually be fricking real! No longer fun and games, or simply a drug experience to be marveled at objectively/intellectually, oh no! Suddenly what you have stumbled into is the horrifying truth (real or not)! -------------------- "I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of." Pennywise the dancing clown Edited by wolf8312 (12/06/23 09:28 AM)
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