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100grams San Pedro
    #28596463 - 12/24/23 10:33 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Hoping to get some pre insight, tips, perspective, etc… Haven’t done this but it’s coming. Hopefully soon like beginning of the new year while kids are away. It just has to line up schedule wise as I need a full day, and I like to have a few days away from alcohol which is coming with the holidays.

Never used mescaline. I Have 100grams San Pedro powder and I’m thinking of taking it all in one go. I hear it’s pretty mild and forgiving for the most part, and I typically have a higher baseline tolerance in general. I Have had many mushroom journeys including a hand full of either not at all enjoyable in any way shape or form, and or total confusing mind fucked experiences. DMT a handful of times… still haven’t met deities. I’m more concerned with not using enough mescaline from what I’ve read than going too far.

I like the idea of alcohol extraction. The acid base extract or whatever seems way too involved and unnecessary in my opinion. Maybe later…. But I think I’m going with simply boiling in water. I’ve read mescaline actually prefers water and you’re getting all/more of the plant. I’ve read you can simply boil powder for a few hours only. No need for all day boiling or repeated straining and reboiling etc… simply add more water as needed over a few hrs, siphon off the clear liquid after it settles. Sounds legit and easy enough to me.

Once this happens I’ll update how it went. I’m excited to explore this new area.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28596593 - 12/24/23 01:16 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

just gel cap that and swallow over a half hour with some sweet hot tea


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: eve69]
    #28600690 - 12/28/23 09:40 AM (1 month, 1 hour ago)

Man that’s a ton of capping and swallowing lol


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28601434 - 12/28/23 07:20 PM (30 days, 15 hours ago)

Have you looked at Erowid for dosing or preparation?
Hope it all lines up for you! Please update on how you liked the boil water method when you can. ✌🏼


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28602011 - 12/29/23 09:31 AM (30 days, 1 hour ago)

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Man that’s a ton of capping and swallowing lol




yeah it is.  one would need to be careful. one could choke and die from so many gelcaps. but one could also take ten every five minutes and drink lots of warm tea or warm almond milk or hot chocolate or coffee, or something. 

first time i ever used torch or pedro powder that i bought from peru, a vendor that no longer exists called compras peru, i blent the powder into strawberries with sugar and drank it for an hour. about two ounces. that was the strongest trip i had on torch powder. later i would just place a tbsp of powder on my tongue and drink liquid behind it. not easy to do too much of that but fine for microdosing.

yet later i had live plants and i used to slice them and place slices in my morning coffee for a microdose.

i guess you can tell i like mescaline. pedro and torch also have anhaline, or anhydranine or some variation which is a minor tranquilizer and offsets the jitters


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: 10ftTall]
    #28602028 - 12/29/23 09:39 AM (30 days, 1 hour ago)

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Have you looked at Erowid for dosing or preparation?
Hope it all lines up for you! Please update on how you liked the boil water method when you can. ✌🏼




I have looked around quite a bit and just checked that site out I like it. I may or may not have came across it I’ve read quite a bit. I get such a large range in dosing it’s crazy. For San Pedro it seems many agree 50grams dried is about as low as you want to go.

The boiling is more than likely the route I will take. It’s way too much to cap. I saw one mention making it in jello and swallowing it down. It’s so much powder though lol

I’m going to try and find the one specifically where the guy had boiling the powder simplified. That was his whole point and he seemed experienced/legit with what he had to say.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28602039 - 12/29/23 09:42 AM (30 days, 1 hour ago)

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eve69 said:yeah it is.  one would need to be careful. one could choke and die from so many gelcaps. but one could also take ten every five minutes and drink lots of warm tea or warm almond milk or hot chocolate or coffee, or something. 

first time i ever used torch or pedro powder that i bought from peru, a vendor that no longer exists called compras peru, i blent the powder into strawberries with sugar and drank it for an hour. about two ounces. that was the strongest trip i had on torch powder. later i would just place a tbsp of powder on my tongue and drink liquid behind it. not easy to do too much of that but fine for microdosing.

yet later i had live plants and i used to slice them and place slices in my morning coffee for a microdose.

i guess you can tell i like mescaline. pedro and torch also have anhaline, or anhydranine or some variation which is a minor tranquilizer and offsets the jitters





I have a feeling I’m going to like it as well. Already told the wife we’ll probably have cactus growing before long lol

Is that your preferred way of taking it? Somehow consuming the plant/powder whole/raw?


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28609320 - 01/04/24 09:44 AM (24 days, 1 hour ago)

Looks like tomorrow is the day as long as nothing comes up.

After doing some more research I’m debating downing the powder. As was recommended here with an experienced fan.

Maybe trying half and waiting a bit…. Maybe…. lol I really don’t want to be let down. I know I can do the other half but with mushrooms that’s just not the same in my experience.

We’ll see but I have seen some pretty solid reports for straight eating it vs making tea/extracts.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28610251 - 01/05/24 08:43 AM (23 days, 2 hours ago)

I started doubting eating all this powder. Like what if I can’t? So I was getting ready to make tea last night, but even doing it quicker with powder is still like 4hrs. I didn’t want to spend that much time and be up late.

I’m adding just enough water to make it doughy, scooping it into my mouth, and swallowing down with some water. Starting with 50grams and I’ll see from there. Still have a ways to go on the 50 I really hope it’s enough lol

I read with mescaline you can up the dose much easier or more successfully than mushrooms.

The dough isn’t horrible but it certainly isn’t any good. Bitter and grass like…. Probably taste like chewing on grass would.

Hoping for the best as far as nausea.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28610300 - 01/05/24 09:58 AM (23 days, 1 hour ago)

Easiest thing is the dough with water. Honey made it taste worse. You can get decent gulps down once you kind of get  the technique down. I capped some of the dry powder to help the process. Having that many caps if I had capped all 50grams…  seems like that alone might cause stomach issues so that’s why I didn’t go that route fully.

Got all but about 10grams down and decided to take a shower. Waited a bit debating if I’d even touch the rest or not, decided to get it down. Started over an hour ago and feel slightly tired and positive. Positivity and focusing on the good in people and situations, intentionally focusing on the good in all people and situations is something I’ve been working on lately. Self love, forgiveness, etc…

I’m REALLY hoping I don’t end up wanting the rest and can save it lol

Going to smoke some bud if nausea gets bad. Right now it’s not much.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28610756 - 01/05/24 04:29 PM (22 days, 18 hours ago)

This stuff gets going without you thinking it’s going. Once you realize it’s been going it seems to get started lol

Ended up eating the rest an hour after last post. It’s been a journey.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28618922 - 01/12/24 04:46 PM (15 days, 18 hours ago)

Can you please report how it went. I have cactus I want to harvest and prepare, but have never tried mescaline. Did you found the experience was "too long"? That has always been my worry, the duration of it.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28619194 - 01/12/24 09:01 PM (15 days, 14 hours ago)

San pedro is a nice landscape cactus  and also attracts bats who feed on it's nectar at night.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: Shroomers420]
    #28619525 - 01/13/24 09:04 AM (15 days, 2 hours ago)

No it didn’t feel too long but I had the day cleared. I did have a hard time sleeping that night. Also half of it was me convinced it wasn’t doing anything.

2hrs after I ate most of the other 50grams, 4hrs after the first 50, and smoking on some good bud (pressure), it hit me hard.

So many times I’d be like oh shit here we go……… well ok nevermind……. Now? No? Man I got work I can do if this isn’t doing shit…

But after smoking that bud I was staring at the floor and it hit me hard. When I started walking around the intensity started calming down so it was like it stopped again. But next thing I know I’m passionately convincing these two trees how beautiful they are despite being bare due to the winter (they really are cool trees and the first time I truly felt the living conscious aspect of plants was with these two trees on mushrooms. They’re neighbor trees and when we move I want to plant some they’re really cool they have personality especially on psychedelics). When I realized what was going on I was like ok holy hell it’s definitely hitting now!

But every now and then panick would be creeping up and I could calm it. It came back the final time. I made my way to my bedroom. I started brushing my teeth. The movement and the sound got so fast and overwhelming. I lay on the bed trying to calm down cause now my heart rate is speeding up. I’m not calming down this time. Look out my bedroom door and the bathroom door behind it and they’re leaning into each other not at all level. I get up to shut the door cause it’s really weird and that’s when I start “losing my mind” and don’t know what to do.

I think I paused. Something was telling me to do something good for someone else. Only my dog was home so I thought I’ll pet her and she will love that 🤷🏼‍♂️ as I started walking to her I was already calming down. As I sat beside and lovingly pet her I really calmed down.

I went to lay back down and she followed me. Got in bed she started going crazy on me wanting attention. It made me wonder if I took too much and she knew and was warning me. But everything calmed down from there. I would say the peak of panick wasn’t even a minute. But the off and on leading into it was maybe 10mins?

After that I stayed in bed I was scared it was going to come back again so I laid there eyes closed meditative state and calmed myself. Felt this is what it wanted from me. To lay down and chill out. Relax. I thanked Me San Pedro and laughingly said I did challenge you and you delivered… and if there’s more coming I get it. I am humbled.

After this it was maybe a half hour of thinking I was totally sober because it had calmed down so much, and then fully realizing I’m not at all sober. Which was really weird.

It really felt Ike not only a journey but also a test that I had to pass in more ways than one. I didn’t want to do anything at all the next day, and hardly anything the second day.

I did enjoy it but feel it’s more of a testing experience that you have to navigate through. You’ll answer some questions. For example before I went back to my room suicide came into my head. I was strongly opposed. Making it very clear I want nothing to do with that and it’s not happening.

I feel it’s normal to question sometimes. But how okay I am with dying now I have a very different reaction than when I was scared to die. This made it clear. I don’t want that. I do not choose that. Despite thinking about it sometimes and wondering why not? It was very clear as to why not. I felt forced to pray and I begged for good/love/light. I choose that I do not want cold bitter darkness. Family was huge on the journey. Realizing “the point” is them and take care of yourself and be as happy as you can be so you can take care of them and have them as happy as can be…. If not your demons will become theirs.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28619530 - 01/13/24 09:12 AM (15 days, 2 hours ago)

As it was coming up I played my guitar for a bit. I was so connected to it that it made me permanently better in a short time. It has stuck. I was more connected with the picking and fingering and could really understand, sense or feel it all so to speak. So much more clearly than ever before. It opened me up.

I could sense that in order to be truly good you have to let the instrument play through you and you can’t have any blockage. You have to open up and allow it to fully flow. That’s why so many of us can do well alone, but choke left  and right being watched. We stop the flow.

Later after the peak I realized that’s life as well. If you want to enjoy and live life…. You have to allow life to live through you.

I’m much better today but dealt with pretty bad social anxiety at one point. I realized it’s the same thing. You constrict and try to control. Worry too much…. Let life live through you. Allow it to flow.


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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28624580 - 01/17/24 01:04 PM (10 days, 22 hours ago)

Back in the day, (High School - 1977)  a friend became a minister in the Native American Church (we lived in nyc, so no, nothing local) and was able to obtain tons of peyote buttons that came on a long wire. I had been reading the Castaneda books at the time too. Had a party, maybe 15 of us. Set up an assembly line. Clean the buttons (get the white fuzzies out), toast them, grind/blend them while somebody ran out for gel caps from the pharmacy. I fit 9 buttons in 11 gelcaps. A little later, I was puking as is expected with buttons, and momentarily freaked and thought I was vomiting blood - but it was the red gelcaps!! lol. Immediately after puking, the trip came on full blast. It was gentle but intense. At one point my friend and I looked at each other and both of us jumped in reaction to the same sight: He became transparent, and I saw his whole body had light shooting through it like light coursing through his veins. It was beautiful and apparently he had the same experience. We did buttons a bunch of times, but that was the most at once for me.

Note: This was before we became aware of the toll button harvesting had on peyote buttons and Native American culture. Now, much of a large swath of land is protected from peyote poachers. So don't pick - you have to grow, or get a hold of other, more common, not endangered and perhaps faster growing cacti like San Pedro. Ahhh, the seventies.

Anyway, just recalled this: Was lucky enough to get what was called "Chocolate Mescaline" for a Bob Weir Kingfish show at the Beacon in this one very large capsule. Taking the subway home to the Bronx, I was still tripping balls. As I waited for the train, I sat with my back against the wall on the platform. It was like 1 AM. The platform appeared to tilt, and I had to do all I could to keep from rolling forward onto the tracks. I knew it was an hallucination, so it was fun. Train arrives and I get on. Surprising number of people, all African American (I am white, and this was Harlem and the South Bronx in the seventies). I was feeling great when this long line of what appeared to be gang members marched through the car. The last guy in line gave me the evil eye as he passed me. They all got off at one stop, and as they did, my head suddenly hit the subway wall behind me. I saw a woman across from me shake her head in apparent sympathy as I heard someone on the platform say, "Shit, I smacked him hard!"  I had no idea.

(I was similarly struck by a young man in Pougkeepsie on Halloween after a Zappa show in 1978, when we were trying to find the bar everyone was meeting at after the show. He and his crew were harrassing the three of us and I was trying (lol) to reason with him when all of a sudden he smacked me in the head. I wasn't sure what happened at the time, I just knew that "something had come between us" and now we couldn't speak to each other anymore.)

Encountering that violence while tripping is NOT a great set and setting. I came away from tha last experience quite racist, the culmination of many episodes while growing up in the Bronx. Thankfully, over some time, removed from the situation, I came to realize that it wasn't white vs Black, but rather middle class vs poor and got rid of most of my conscious racism. But the experience of my being honest and vulnerable
vs his closed minded (trapped) hate was somewhat formative in my continued need to understand and empathize with others. Go figure.

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Re: 100grams San Pedro [Re: Neurotech]
    #28624676 - 01/17/24 02:53 PM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

Yeah I’m not much into public settings on psychedelics. I like to be home and alone. I would love to go out in nature and know I’m safe from any human contact. One of many reasons I want some land.

You know that last part is so true. It’s not racism. I don’t see racism anywhere in real life. Of course I know it exist and happens (especially online which is not reality), but in my day to day life I come in contact with all races, sexes, sexual preference, religions, ages, etc…. I have all these people as customers. They speak with me and hire me. I don’t see it at all in every day life. I’m white and look racist, but all I experience is mutual respect.

But the wealth aspect…. That is where the hate and prejudice and judgement and divide truly exist. Often on both sides as well. It’s one of the biggest ways of pushing communism. Look at the imploded submersible. I watched poor/middle class practically celebrate that.


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