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Ishitoutofmydick
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Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible?
#28538497 - 11/11/23 10:42 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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I only found one other post about sublingual absorption.... people were talking about new therapeutic strips for people with major depressive disorder that the FDA was in the testing phase on,,, & someone commented that you wouldn't be able to absorb psilocybin under your tongue, because it needs to be converted to psilocin by stomach(acid)
swim is , of course, not a chemist by any means
but swim has gotten their tea recipe down well enough to know it's very enjoyable/potent when consumed/swalllowed
well, after a night of heavy drinking (and having some IBS issues specifically with alcohol) swim does NOT want to swallow the tea today
swim ground up 15g of cubensis and made extra potent tea today.... can swim just hold it under their tongue?
swim is probably going to just do it anyways,
.....and eventually finally report back for once
((because I finally created a username that I won't forget lol -usually anytime swim does some thing I fail to follow up on the report because I forget what the username is or even what the email might be associated with the account etc... and always end up getting locked out of the account...not this time there's nothing wrong w my penis though just fyi))
**edited for grammer/typos
Edited by Ishitoutofmydick (11/11/23 10:44 AM)
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
#28538587 - 11/11/23 11:39 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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4aco DMT is good sublingual or intra nasal
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Ishitoutofmydick
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: redgreenvines]
#28538613 - 11/11/23 11:52 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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haha thanks fow the info but I assume you can't convert cubensis tea into 4aco DMT
I also have never taken that either and I know I can trust good old cubes (to make swim happy)
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
#28539283 - 11/11/23 07:56 PM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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swim tried mimicking stomach acid by saturating, the tea and lemon juice for about 30 mins to an hour, maybe.
swim then tried putting it under their tongue, and after about 15 minutes had to spit it out because it was ripping the enamel off of their teeth
swim added baking soda to raise the pH, and tried repeating the sublingual dose (not swallowing anything)
then Tried holding it under their tongue, but still their teeth kept feeling "rubbery" even though the pH was testing as (close to) neutral
I am reporting zero success with sublingual Psilocybe tea concentrate
swim then waited about five hours, and then drink the tea and had a normal trip as usual(it is pretty potent as anticipated, but swim honestly wasn't able/willing to measure the dose very accurately either)
At any rate, sublingual effects were negligible/nonexistent
I believe that, even in the most extreme highest concentrated sublingual tincture a person can reasonably make(an average person with basic skills & homemade equipment- not being a chemist), if it's just psilocybin it's not going to absorb under your tongue * even if you make an ignorant attempt to "convert" to psilocin by soaking in lemon juice (swim has no real idea of what they're doing, just assuming that the stomach acid works simply by breaking things down chemically)
just ime though
Maybe it could be done, but not by swim
Edited by Ishitoutofmydick (11/11/23 08:02 PM)
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
#28539661 - 11/12/23 02:59 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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Y'know, sublingual is where you put it. some absorption may occur in tissues under the tongue, but other things happen, like saliva swirling, and swallowing, buccal absorption (in tissue of cheeks) etc.
you can put pure chems under your tongue but all those routes of absorption will happen, even with a tab of acid, I am not sure what you imagine the benefit of sublingual might be.
I think it is about an intimate mouth feeling, and I am sorry you missed out.
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: redgreenvines]
#28539882 - 11/12/23 08:27 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said: I think it is about an intimate mouth feeling, and I am sorry you missed out.
I was just trying to avoid it being swallowed ...by swim lol
kind of similar to how you don't inhale cigar smoke but still get a buzz from the nicotine in your mouth, but maybe cigar nicotine comes from swallowing the saliva from smoking in that case
I thought the idea was just to absorb and that is what did not seem to happen (but maybe it just never "converted" to psilocin before it absorbed)
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
#28540000 - 11/12/23 10:02 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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Quote:
Ishitoutofmydick said: I only found one other post about sublingual absorption.... people were talking about new therapeutic strips for people with major depressive disorder that the FDA was in the testing phase on,,, & someone commented that you wouldn't be able to absorb psilocybin under your tongue, because it needs to be converted to psilocin by stomach(acid)
swim is , of course, not a chemist by any means
but swim has gotten their tea recipe down well enough to know it's very enjoyable/potent when consumed/swalllowed
well, after a night of heavy drinking (and having some IBS issues specifically with alcohol) swim does NOT want to swallow the tea today
swim ground up 15g of cubensis and made extra potent tea today.... can swim just hold it under their tongue?
swim is probably going to just do it anyways,
.....and eventually finally report back for once
((because I finally created a username that I won't forget lol -usually anytime swim does some thing I fail to follow up on the report because I forget what the username is or even what the email might be associated with the account etc... and always end up getting locked out of the account...not this time there's nothing wrong w my penis though just fyi))
**edited for grammer/typos
The idea of sublingual shrooms turns my stomach. I get extreme nausea and vomit. So for me, yuck. I hope you find success.
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: loladoreen]
#28541325 - 11/13/23 10:33 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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I usually keep shewing them until they are a slimy sludge that gets accidentally swallowed
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: loladoreen]
#28541729 - 11/13/23 05:27 PM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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loladoreen said: The idea of sublingual shrooms turns my stomach. I get extreme nausea and vomit. So for me, yuck. I hope you find success.
same but honestly the tea doesn't taste that bad
typically anyone adds a considerable amount of lemon and citrus really masks a lot of the bad taste
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
#28545045 - 11/16/23 09:22 AM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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I have tried the tea and I struggle with it, but it is not as bad. Chocolate seems the best for me.
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: loladoreen]
#28547741 - 11/18/23 10:44 AM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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never tried chocolate, and that sounds more nauseating to me lol 
swim likes to make tea with fresh (undried) shrooms & also likes to make sure not to grind up the shrooms into too small of pieces (just using scissors to like 1/8 inch pieces)....then ofc lots of lemon and that should cause the tea to have a very white and clear look to it (once strained) which should mean a little bit less of a "mushroom" flavor....
Another major trick (arguably more helpful because it's going to taste weird either way) is to use as little of water as possible Like one cup of water for every 10-15grams (that way there's not very much tea to eat/drink b/c it's super potent)
Then one can take the tea and add it into orange juice,
or then freeze the tea and then put it as ice cubes into any drink(soda, mixed drinks, smoothies,etc)
Edited by Ishitoutofmydick (11/18/23 11:04 AM)
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
#28547827 - 11/18/23 11:35 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
Ishitoutofmydick said: never tried chocolate, and that sounds more nauseating to me lol 
swim likes to make tea with fresh (undried) shrooms & also likes to make sure not to grind up the shrooms into too small of pieces (just using scissors to like 1/8 inch pieces)....then ofc lots of lemon and that should cause the tea to have a very white and clear look to it (once strained) which should mean a little bit less of a "mushroom" flavor....
Another major trick (arguably more helpful because it's going to taste weird either way) is to use as little of water as possible Like one cup of water for every 10-15grams (that way there's not very much tea to eat/drink b/c it's super potent)
Then one can take the tea and add it into orange juice,
or then freeze the tea and then put it as ice cubes into any drink(soda, mixed drinks, smoothies,etc)
I don't recall if I got ill off fresh. I do recall loving fresh!
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: loladoreen]
#28553613 - 11/23/23 07:10 AM (2 months, 4 days ago) |
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I’d think that the volume of material needed and time to absorb it all would be tremendously taxing on the mouth if it were possible. You could always make gummies too.
Just a friendly observation….”Swim” is generally outdated and unnecessary. First person is the way my man , own it. It’s gotta get awkward to type like that , no? haha. Do you you though and be comfortable at the end of the day. Happy tripping.
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Re: Is sublingual dosing mushrooms/psilocybin possible? [Re: Soloist]
#28555585 - 11/25/23 02:11 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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The Mazatec method is to chew and chew and chew the mushrooms before eating them, for 30 minutes.
In addition to what is absorbed sublingually or buccally through this, what is eaten afterwards is partially digested and will surely come on quicker.
But you probably need to be ok with the taste of shrooms to chew them so long.
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