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Asante
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dissociatives - 100mg Memantine test 1
#28510247 - 10/19/23 06:00 AM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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100mg Memantine HCl test
dose: 100mg Memantine HCl (roughly equivalent to 30mg MXE, my default increment)
It readily dissolved in a fluid ounce of water. I can't find what constitutes a saturated solution. Most sources parrot the 1-2mg/ml the medicinal solutions come in but there's more to it. 2% solubility should be achievable with a molecule like this.
Took it at 14:14h, coincidentally. I got a great coincidental plan :P
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at 35min appreciable oomph and hissing tinnitus already.
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4:30 into it.
At 1:30 it dawned on me that 100mg for me indeed is session strength, and now, 3 hours later, its stronger still.
It totally hits the mark of being equivalent to a standard increment of about 30mg MXE = 10mg O-PCE.
Like 30mg methoxetamine = 250mg ketamine oral, 100mg memantine for me has the Spiritual/magical Entheogenic quality that I require for a dissoiative dose to be of "session strength". For the first time in my experimentation with the substance, i'm "in a session" in the entheogeni sense, well beyond medication.
5:00 into it and riding the session into the evening (19:14pm) at full force and perhaps going stronger (effects increase for about 6-8 hours)
clearheaded, non-mindfuck. There is some stimulation going on, i hope i can sleep tonight but willing to ride it out if insomnia occurs.
The eyes and ears are disproportionally affected with Memantine, Tinnitus is a constant and so are disscoiative aomodation disturbances.
I want te Be, not Do = tripping indeed 
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9 hours into this, its still ++ but going a bit shallow, it's 23:15 PM though so hooray, I might catch my bed before the sun comes up.
It is satisfactory as a dissociative.
Heavy doses, ie, diminishing returns, start at 170mg according to psychonautwiki.
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Just about on the 12 hour point. coming down so gradually, there is no nostalgia, what a great day it has been, and chances are i might sleep in a couple hours or so, 14 hours into it.
It would be ridiculous to take a booster, there is no interest in it.
The 100mg side effects were clear: there still is nuisance tinnitus, eyes are levelling again, there was phlegh reminisent of having a bit of a old, as reported, the saliva and mucus effects were akin to Tiletamine but more in the back of the nose and throat than the mouth.
Bodyload was by all means acceptable.
I'm curious what tomorrow will bring, or the rest of the week for that matter.
100 seems just right for me.
Qualitatively, this is quite a good dissociative. Emotion and thought are very mobile in all directions, but tend to be positive and composed. For me spirituality is around every corner on this dose, but holds for the brutally mundane stuff. I was reasonably mentally funtionalk throughout and diodnt have the robowalk. I can see people saying this feels inbetween DXM and Ketamine.
Zero nausea but there was diarroea, which i think stems chiefly from trimagnesium citrate taken yesterday.
I -really- liked this, and hope that lighthousing 100mg once a week as a means to both session 1 day and medicate the rest of the week wihj the residual blood levels of this powerful nootropic is possible for me.
That would be a VERY awesome routine.
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In darkness there were very enticing visuals, far more symbolical as generic O-PCE did for me. They were a bit faint but, worth watching anbd i definitely shouldve spent more time with closed eyes this session, during the thick of it.
I woke up after 6 hours of refeshing sleep (+20h wakeup).
now, +24h, i have a delightful aftereffect, reminiscent of.. a day after 30mg MXE.
Loving it.
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Re: dissociatives - 100mg Memantine test [Re: Asante] 1
#28512024 - 10/20/23 03:45 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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It's great seeing a trip report on memantine. Almost a decade ago I'd sometimes use it at higher than nootropic doses. I never went nearly as high as you though. I probably was only using around 30-40mg orally. At that dose I remember it just being mildly dissociating, but for quite a long time, as you'd expect. I think combining it with 70mg of tianeptine orally or even just in isolation was more euphoric, in a rave setting.
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Asante
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Re: dissociatives - 100mg Memantine test [Re: KuroKitsune]
#28512976 - 10/21/23 12:53 PM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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I worked my way up from 25 --> 50 --> 100mg, each dose a week apart.
Its an interesting substance, i'm glad you had good experiences with it also.
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Re: dissociatives - 100mg Memantine test [Re: Asante]
#28518116 - 10/25/23 06:51 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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Datapoint: 100mg Memantine HCl dissolved readily into 5ml water in a champagne flute (solubility >20mg/ml) by swirling it. I drank it down with dilute lemon juice. This resulted into a FAST comeup and intensity not of my choosing! Within half an hour it was uncharacteristically strong and in an hour and a half i was at a strength normally achieved 3 hours in. It peaked at 5 hours in (not 8) and decreased from there.
On the Shroomery we have the LemonTEK where dried shrooms predigested in a shotglass of lemon juice gives increased but shorter lived performance, also with other drugs. I speculate that taking your Memantine in the juice of one lemon produces memantine dihydrogen citrate, citric acid being a krebs cycle acid, which gets it absorbed and distributed faster and therefore, with a steeper higher peak.
I was not cool with this, 5mg valium was used to curb anxiety.
I think i'm going to try lemonTEK-king 50mg next week.
I also started to use a magnesium supplement, maybe that helped it.
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Re: dissociatives - 100mg Memantine test [Re: Asante]
#28627288 - 01/19/24 02:03 PM (8 days, 21 hours ago) |
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very interesting experience
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