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Vitnos
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Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it?
#28422750 - 08/06/23 07:18 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Hello everyone, I have tripped on truffles about 3 times in totalt but I cannot seem to enjoy it at all. I've had great experiences tripping on ket that has been very insightful, however I would like to enjoy the sensation of tripping on truffles as well. My first time taking truffles (10 g) went smoothly, I had done the research beforehand, I was in a good mental state and the trip was fairly enjoyable as I could see myself taking truffles again.
A few months went by and my friend from abroad visited me and we decided to buy some truffles and trip this time I thought I could push my limits a little bit and take 15 grams. Bad fucking idea. We had been smoking some weed at the dinner table and once we could start feeling the effects we moved over to the bed. At first it was amazing, everything felt like I was in a cartoon, my room looked different and my legs felt like they were floating above the blanket they were under. This amazing feeling was very short lived. At this point in time it is important for me to mention that I asked my friend if she could put on some music (we had been listening to a chill classic soul playlist) She decided to put on frenchcore which prompted me to get super scared and I put all my energy in order to sit up and tell her "You are scaring me with this music right now" after this my trip went downhill. I went into some sort of loop where I started questioning myself "Who am I? Is my friend actually a dangerous person, is my home safe, Where am I and so on?" While I was going down this spiral of a bad trip my friend turned into a 4 eyed demon laughing hysterically. At some point during my loop I believe that I managed to break it for just a split second as I could hear my real friends voice from "reality" saying "Oh fuck you're going into a loop again". I eventually just went to a park and sat on a bench and waited the trip out because I was too scared of being in my own house.
So those two trips happened back in 2022 November/October. Fast forward until the first Friday of August when I decided I want to give truffles another go. This time I was going to be way more cautious with the dosing and only take 5 grams. The effects were still very noticeable with mild hallucinations, strong colors and my body was getting heavier. The trip lasted for about 4 hours in total and at times it was enjoyable and at times I got this bad feeling of anxiety, paranoia and restless legs. I would kind of describe it like it was not per se a bad trip nor a good one. I had some moments of euphoria and some of sheer anxiety, almost 50 50.
I believe I am still a bit scared over that one bad trip experience I had and now I can't seem to have a relaxed mindset towards tripping. What should I do? Any tips would be appreciated.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Vitnos]
#28422765 - 08/06/23 07:46 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Truffles are a different breed for sure. I don't think there is a solution to your problem because a magic truffle is basically colonized substrate with no fruiting bodies It's just colonized on an edible truffle. They make them this way to get around legalities in the Netherlands.
Making it into a tea could help but you are probably reacting badly to what ever they are using as the substrate. Getting your hands on the real thing is your best bet.
Edited by DirtyBulks (08/06/23 08:14 AM)
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: DirtyBulks] 1
#28422778 - 08/06/23 08:13 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Sorry but I think this has nothing to do with the substrate used to cultivate these truffles. What OP describes is just what psylocin does. Depending on your set and setting sometimes it's great sometimes it can be hell. The chemistry of your brain may be another factor determining how you react to it. Some people don't like it, its okay, don't force it if it's not your cup of tea.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: enscred1312]
#28422783 - 08/06/23 08:20 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Yea but first she describes a bad sensation when everything else is good. That's what makes me think this could be starting out as a bad body high and then the trip turns bad. This could very easily have everything to do with the truffle. Everyone's body reacts differently to this stuff and eating mycelium that colonizes on a nut is not as pure as eating actual fruiting bodies. Eating bigger doses of this stuff making it worse is another key sign that the impurity of the substrate would be effecting the way she feels. If you are getting sick you are not gonna be having the best trip.
OP is asking for help so I think it's better to try something more pure instead of giving up on tripping all together.
Edited by DirtyBulks (08/06/23 08:22 AM)
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: enscred1312] 2
#28422787 - 08/06/23 08:25 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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enscred1312 said: Sorry but I think this has nothing to do with the substrate used to cultivate these truffles. What OP describes is just what psylocin does. Depending on your set and setting sometimes it's great sometimes it can be hell. The chemistry of your brain may be another factor determining how you react to it. Some people don't like it, its okay, don't force it if it's not your cup of tea.

I agree 100%. OP, if you're just looking for a good time psilocybin is probably not the right tool.
What you could try is change the environment. You stay in Finland, so lots of beautiful landscape around. Maybe try a low dose in nature.
Truffles are fruiting bodies that grow underground.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Vitnos]
#28422799 - 08/06/23 08:41 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Vitnos said: At this point in time it is important for me to mention that I asked my friend if she could put on some music (we had been listening to a chill classic soul playlist) She decided to put on frenchcore which prompted me to get super scared and I put all my energy in order to sit up and tell her "You are scaring me with this music right now" after this my trip went downhill.
A good example of why set and setting is so important the slightest little thing that you don't like can really bother you. I was camping with some friends a couple months ago and one of them was determined to play his hardcore metal/rock music and this turned my experience from great to nasty in seconds. I could not just sit and listen to that music but at the same time I felt like I was going to ruin their experiences by asking them to change the music. The main thing to do with a bad experience is to really try to understand why it went that way. I've had bad experiences just from being abit too cold or the weather wasn't as I would like it to be. Personally I don't like tripping with other people atall by being alone I can control all the variables and don't have to worry about what other people are feeling or experiencing.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Fridgedoor]
#28422843 - 08/06/23 09:24 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Having read through the replies on my post I started reflecting on what I could do in order for my next trip to be better. I came to the conclusion that my setting/environment usually isnt the best. When I have tripped on truffles I have always done it in the evening when its getting darker outside or it is already dark. My latest trip I actually ate the shrooms before I went home so I had a quick walk and everything looked beautiful and then I went to my friends house and we just sat and did nothing. I think I would enjoy tripping more just like you said out in nature!(I live in NL but am from FIN)
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Kmacmo]
#28422853 - 08/06/23 09:37 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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The main thing to do with a bad experience is to really try to understand why it went that way. I've had bad experiences just from being abit too cold or the weather wasn't as I would like it to be. Personally I don't like tripping with other people atall by being alone I can control all the variables and don't have to worry about what other people are feeling or experiencing.
Every bad experience I have had was actually while I have been tripping with other people. The first time I did truffles I did them alone and that was the only non bad trip I have had, there was not much special with it a lot of visuals and a bit of euphoria but nothing scary. Now to my latest trip I was also always on edge because my friends that I was tripping with was controlling the music and at times he can have this hysteric laugh which reminded me of my bad trip back in november.
I shall definitely try tripping while its sunny outside and have a walk in nature. I think it will do good for me. As I mentioned in my other reply Quote:
When I have tripped on truffles I have always done it in the evening when its getting darker outside or it is already dark. My latest trip I actually ate the shrooms before I went home so I had a quick walk and everything looked beautiful and then I went to my friends house and we just sat and did nothing. I think I would enjoy tripping more just like you said out in nature!
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: DirtyBulks] 1
#28422859 - 08/06/23 09:42 AM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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I definitely wanna get my hands on the real deal and not only truffles to see how my body reacts to it and if there are any differences.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Vitnos] 3
#28423558 - 08/06/23 08:25 PM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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I see a combination of factors playing in to make your experiences difficult Vitnos. The first is weed. So many times we see people write, "everything was going okay and then I smoked weed..." or "it was great last time but this time I smoked weed before...". I've seen with my own eyes, people's trips turn south immediately after smoking. It can be anxiety inducing and unless you are prepared for it it's not a good move.
The other thing is fear. You are wrapping yourself up in your fear like it's a real thing that is coming from outside you. This is not how it is. You choose to continue feeling fearful after the instinct has signalled to you that you are in danger, or you choose not to. The instinct will always come, but then it's up to you. Frank Herbert wrote these great lines in a book, taken very out of context, but excellent tripping advice.
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
Best of luck and mindfulness in your future journeys.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Vitnos] 1
#28424678 - 08/07/23 06:02 PM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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First off, great input from Northerner and I second his opinion and thoughts. I would try without any cannabis next time and see how that goes. Until I was more experienced, I'd get really bad anxiety and it would "change the trip" is the best way I could describe it when I would consume cannabis with mushrooms.
On my very first mushroom trip ever, after we smoked some cannabis, I thought one of my best friends injected me with something, that's how much it changed my trip and was making me think weird shit. I just accepted it and never said anything at the time because I was too scared, but yeah, it completely changed the whole mood and experience for me.
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Vitnos said: The trip lasted for about 4 hours in total and at times it was enjoyable and at times I got this bad feeling of anxiety, paranoia and restless legs. I would kind of describe it like it was not per se a bad trip nor a good one. I had some moments of euphoria and some of sheer anxiety, almost 50 50.
So, to me, this just sounds like what a lower dose of mushrooms feels like to me. I get the anxiety on my come up every experience (regardless of dose) and I get the restless legs / leg energy throughout my trips every single time. It's just part of the effects from the mushrooms. Some people don't experience it or to the degree that you or I may, but it's extremely common.
I would suggest to try again without any cannabis and just trying to be mindful of "letting yourself go" and giving into all the feelings and sensations. If you try to fight or be fearful of the experience, you're going to have a bad time.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Dave Bowman]
#28425024 - 08/07/23 09:39 PM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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never liked the stones. best trip was natalensis
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Vitnos] 4
#28425833 - 08/08/23 02:55 PM (5 months, 17 days ago) |
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I had some moments of euphoria and some of sheer anxiety... I went into some sort of loop where I started questioning myself "Who am I?
You are describing what happens on a trip. Things get strange, you feel weird, sometimes anxious, sometimes euphoric. Your thoughts go sideways into strange realms. You can't expect psychedelics to give you a completely smooth ride, you are going off-road. Be honest about your intentions and whether you are prepared for an experience that might feel uncomfortable at times.
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now I can't seem to have a relaxed mindset towards tripping. What should I do? Any tips would be appreciated.
Think of it as a challenge, expect the unexpected, ride out the strangeness and when you adjust to the headspace you can start to relax and enjoy it. Let the trip flow its own way, you don't need to control it. Pay attention to set and setting; if your friends are psyching you out then don't trip with them. You need to feel safe and secure in the place you are tripping, and with the people there. Sometimes it can be better to trip alone and create your own vibe with your own music and your own thoughts.
I find that trips often start off slightly uncomfortable, introspective. The weirdness feels intrusive, you are not sure you really want to be tripping, you wonder why you are doing it. But then you reach a point where you realize you are starting to enjoy it, and you can really start to appreciate the beauty and strangeness.
Think of it as a psychological safari through your own mind, prepare for adventure, and keep your sense of humour with you when things get intense. Remember that you don't have to do anything in a trip except experience it - have faith in yourself, in your mind, and let the trip happen.
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Re: Tripping on truffles - How to enjoy it? [Re: Aldebaran] 1
#28426087 - 08/08/23 06:03 PM (5 months, 17 days ago) |
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This is quality advice. Don't expect your experience to be vastly different going from tampanesis (or other truffles producing variety) to dried cubes. Yes they are different but not so much, in the end psylocin is the main active compound in both.
Also, if you just want to have a good time, I've found that a very light dose of cubes (0.5g-0.75g of standard cubes) to be very fun with friends and no problem to handle for almost anyone.
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