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Has anyone else experienced severe psychosomatic pain while tripping?
    #28395354 - 07/14/23 12:20 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

I have taken psilocybin a number of times, both in microdose and macro(though I am not sure the amounts), and every time it has resulted in quite severe psychosomatic pain, with no other psychedelic effects. This is obviously interfering with my desire to use mushrooms therapeutically, and I am wondering if anyone has experienced this. I have never found any account online similar to mine. The pain is a bodywide tension that is unbearable.

Some backstory-- i'll try to be brief. I have a lot of severe mental illness issues, and last year I was prescribed ketamine to treat them. This was very difficult and often terrifying, but helped immensely and caused no psychosomatic pain. My main issues are CPTSD, OCD, autism, fibromyalgia, severe anxiety, and chronic depression. I am highly prone to severe psychosomatic responses like widespread pain, and have actually experienced the same pain I am describing here without the use of drugs. The ketamine did a great deal for the worst of my dissociation, depression, panic attacks, and flashbacks, but I still have a lot of issues and want to attempt shrooms again to treat them. I have grown my own but am unable to use them due to the pain it causes.

My guess is that it is caused by inability to 'let go,' because i have such intense mental self control. I avoided this with ketamine because it dissociated me and I had no way to drag my heels into it. Someone suggested I take a larger dose so that I will not be able to resist it, which has been on my mind. I don't mind a 'scary' trip; it's the physical pain that is intolerable and totally unbeneficial. I have been considering setting up a tent in the woods to do it alone, because nature really grounds me and it might be easier to let go, and I need to be alone, but I am honestly just afraid of the potential pain.

Any suggestions? Has anyone heard of this issue before? Thanks.


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Re: Has anyone else experienced severe psychosomatic pain while tripping? [Re: Domesdaylines] * 1
    #28395482 - 07/14/23 02:35 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

In this kind of push pull situation, I do not agree that upping the dose will lower your resistance, I think it could easily up that too, putting you into a more uncomfortable or intolerable state than before.

Since you have so many diagnoses, I think you should bring your caregiver on board with your mushroom escapade.

if 0.1 gm dry or 1.0 gm fresh psilocybin mushroom gives you pain, just give them away and stay with the ketamine.

If you want to get on top of your pain-tension-reflexes, you have to use cbt, or insight meditation, during which you cultivate calm and allow your mind to cascade through its reflexes while you follow your breathing and keep on keeping calm, relaxing, and approaching tranquility. This practice adds a relaxed frame of view to your upsetting triggers, and that can be your new way of going forward. you can always have a panic if you feel so inclined, but I think you will skip if if you fix your self this way.

you have to know yourself and then work with what you got.
if you cant give the shrooms away, and can't use them, dry them and maybe you can use them next year.


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Re: Has anyone else experienced severe psychosomatic pain while tripping? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28395604 - 07/14/23 04:51 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Unfortunately I can't use ketamine anymore, mostly because my tolerance is so high after a year of continuous use. How does LSD compare to mushrooms? I know the latter can be hit or miss, and i've heard that LSD tends to be more straightforward; is that true? If I could find similar benefits from that, I'll buy some. Any doctor I tell about mushrooms will almost certainly discourage it. I will tell my therapist and/or psychiatrist about it though, when I get one again this year.

My pain issue is complicated because it is tied so directly to my mental state. Bad emotions=physical pain. Ketamine had no effect on it. I'll take your suggestion and avoid attempting a trip again. I am so curious, but also reluctant to risk it.


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Re: Has anyone else experienced severe psychosomatic pain while tripping? [Re: Domesdaylines]
    #28395722 - 07/14/23 06:59 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

lsd is very similar in my opinion to shrooms


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Re: Has anyone else experienced severe psychosomatic pain while tripping? [Re: Domesdaylines]
    #28395736 - 07/14/23 07:22 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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Domesdaylines said:
I am highly prone to severe psychosomatic responses like widespread pain



This is the cause. Normally, you can probably suppress this, but when tripping this will be amplified. Psychedelics are psychological amplifiers, and they can prevent you from being able to suppress things you normally can, and instead can force on you things you normally ignore or dislike.


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Re: Has anyone else experienced severe psychosomatic pain while tripping? [Re: nooneman]
    #28395762 - 07/14/23 07:41 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

I need to deal with this pain somehow. I'd go through with it even despite any pain if I knew it would eventually help the problem, but as of yet I have found no ways of really improving my oversensitivity. I am hoping I can find drug to help me process what I need to in a similar way to ketamine. I can look at LSD if it is a better option for me at this time than mushrooms. Just to be clear, I definitely do a lot more for myself than drugs. I actually have a really healthy lifestyle, my issues are just complex and resistant to improvement.

Tangentially related, but I also have really intense spiritual sensitivity(i know how that sounds) which has led to a lot of 'experiences' on and off drugs. It was totally overwhelming for a while, but i managed to eventually, well, suppress it, because i can't handle it right now. I don't think i can even do drugs like this and keep that down, so it probably contributes to the tension. That's why I have wondered if being in the woods alone would help. I doubt it though. I just can't let myself go. I never feel alone enough. With ketamine it was easier, all in my head, less exposed.


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