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mircea
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Why is there no campaign for decriminalisation in Europe?
#27892077 - 08/06/22 03:56 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I am puzzled about the simultaneity of psychedelic renaissance and continued criminalisation. On the one hand, billions are poured into psychedelic start-ups, at the same time we still have to protect our identities because our use of these sacred plant medicines is still treated as a crime in most places.
I live in Europe, were so far three countries have taken serious steps towards decriminalisation: Switzerland, the Netherlands and Portugal. In the Netherlands, you can do legal truffles retreats, whereas in neighbouring France or Germany, you would be thrown into jail for doing the same.
At the same time, I hear no public voices demanding decriminalisation, no public outrage over the deeply unethical laws withholding psychedelic healing from those who need it. Why is this?
Edited by mircea (08/06/22 03:58 AM)
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thirtygoats

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Re: Why is there no campaign for decriminalisation in Europe? [Re: mircea]
#27892097 - 08/06/22 05:03 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Because drugs don't affect people the same way here(I'm in Ireland and weed is still illegal, and I heard the "current health minister" is trying to get CBD, which isn't even a narcotic, outlawed) as they do in places in the USA.
I have noticed the difference in how drugs affect me here compared to when I lived in Alabama, USA. (I was born in Florida and lived in Alabama from like age 7 to 25, I don't remember being in Florida, though. Then I moved to Ireland in January 2016)
Drugs seem to be less addictive and lower quality here yet I need them more than when I lived in the USA.
It also feels harder to enjoy drugs despite my not having to worry about getting caught with them, and I believe that the average level of intelligence, maturity, physical strength, and common sense is lower in places where it's cold the majority of the year, so places like here will be more resistant to decriminalizing drugs.
I enjoyed drugs a hell of a lot more when I was in Alabama compared to here. I think it has something to do with the large amount of sunlight and exercise I got when I lived in the USA.
It was easy and no problem at all to go to the gym 4 or 5 times a week in Alabama and eat so much food that people thought I had a tapeworm or a crazy metabolism, but here, I find it nearly impossible to get myself to exercise or maintain a proper diet.
Edited by thirtygoats (08/06/22 05:13 AM)
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mircea
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Re: Why is there no campaign for decriminalisation in Europe? [Re: thirtygoats]
#27892996 - 08/06/22 08:42 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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thirtygoats said: Because drugs don't affect people the same way here(I'm in Ireland and weed is still illegal, and I heard the "current health minister" is trying to get CBD, which isn't even a narcotic, outlawed) as they do in places in the USA.
So you think the reason is that drugs are less fun in Europe? Not sure if I can follow you.
Don't know. The main driving force behind the push for legalisation of therapeutic use of MDMA in the US seems to be the high prevalence of PTSD among veterans, many of whom die by suicide. Interestingly, this seems to be a bipartisan issue.
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I have noticed the difference in how drugs affect me here compared to when I lived in Alabama, USA. (I was born in Florida and lived in Alabama from like age 7 to 25, I don't remember being in Florida, though. Then I moved to Ireland in January 2016)
Drugs seem to be less addictive and lower quality here yet I need them more than when I lived in the USA.
What drugs are you talking about? LSD, psilocybin and the other classic psychedelica aren't addictive at all. BTW, "less addictive" sounds like a good thing to me.
What I'm interested in is the legal status of psychedelics with their incredible healing potential. And I would be for a regulated decriminalisation, I am not for adding LSD to the water supply. Rather I'd favour an enculturation model as proposed by Thomas Metzinger.
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