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Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia
    #27403565 - 07/26/21 10:23 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I have some sub spores and want to try my hand at agar plates first. I am located in the southern part of australia and the spores are local.
I am confused by temperature requirements. Most advice here is to cultivate
around 25 deg celsius, but that may be for nth

We are on winter -the season our subs grow- and temps are 14 deg by day ans
about 8 deg o/nite.

Should I be growing now in a garage with those temps. I don't fancy aircon for them in the summer.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia [Re: mandalorian]
    #27403660 - 07/26/21 11:05 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Agar is definitely the way to go, good choice :thumbup:
You can start your agar work anytime so why not asap. They will do just fine in those temps.
I am not sure what your plans is to grow them, are you going to do an outdoor patch or are you
attempting an indoor grow? They are quite a challenge indoors and/or outside their season so you
have to be in for the long haul and get everything ready for next season. You can cultivate them
outside in flower pots as well in case do don't have a backyard or you could try establishing them
somewhere in the wild.

Have a look here if you haven't already seen this:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24673753#24673753

Lots of nice folks there and the best place to get your wood lover specific questions answered.


Edited by Baba Yaga (07/26/21 11:24 PM)


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Re: Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27403706 - 07/27/21 12:11 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the tips.

I only have a very small sample of spores. I have been pretty unsuccessful in local hunting and resolved that growing might be better.

I have room for an outdoor grow but my judgement is that there are too many uncontrolled variables- moisture, wind, sun, nutrients.

I am thinking of an agar to grain tek inside. I can build a SAB. My issue is what temps should I keep the fruiting chamber at? Outside it is 8 deg o/night
yet the subs are doing their thing fine in the wild here in winter Australia.

Should I leave the fruiting chamber in the garage and just leave the doors
open for low ambient light and temps that match the wild?

My other specific question is how to inoculate my agar with sterile technique when the spores are on a sheet of plain paper. Surely that paper is contaminated with all sorts of potential contaminants. Russian roulette?

Thanks for any help again.


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Re: Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia [Re: mandalorian]
    #27403716 - 07/27/21 12:16 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Growing subs inside is challenging even for experts.
I would start with the easier indoor variety of Cubensis. You can get some spores pretty easily, there are aussie traders on this website and some on reddit sporetraders, although you have to check their feedback and ratings.


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Re: Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia [Re: The Black Sheep]
    #27403729 - 07/27/21 12:39 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You gonna want between 19°C and 29°C for cubes, mate.
I have no clue wtf grows locally down in SA or what kinda crazy arid climate it can handle. We mostly knw bout cubes and pans 'n shit.

However, if you can post highly detailed pics of the local fair with descriptions, im almost certain that someone in the OMC will knw something about it.


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Re: Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia [Re: mandalorian]
    #27403730 - 07/27/21 12:41 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Having just a weak spore print on paper won't help but if this is all you have then you have to try at least,
but let's say you manage to get a clean culture then you will put this to grain and your best bet is to start
a flower pot or something you can leave outside. If they grow naturally in your area then all you have to provide
is a food source (wood chips), moisture and some common sense like put them in a sheltered spot and such and
wait fr the next season to come along.


I think you will have to dig into some threads and read more to get the basic understanding of the whole process
from spore to mushroom. I don't know how much you already know but it sounds like you haven't gathered much knowledge yet.

Here are two good threads that will show you what is necessary and what you have to do to get some subs growing.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14553921#14553921

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15093643#15093643

and there are more to find if you use the search engine


yeah or get some cubensis spores and go crazy indoors, you'll get access to the market place here if you're a member for 90 days
and make 50 posts which is easily achievable once you get into reading and asking questions.


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Re: Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27403931 - 07/27/21 07:42 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Thank a heap. You've saved me a lot of time and effort.

I think my strategy will be:

*consume the 2 examples I have at some point.
* put my spores in some aged wood chip, keep inside while the winter is
on until I see some activity.
* place outside in suitable spot and container.
* This is just a long shot but will avoid the hassle of serious growing. I doubt it will work.
* I will probably also take 2 more shroom hunting trips b4 end of season.

In the end I may launch into mescaline if shrooms prove too hard. I found a great mescaline tek with little equipment and excellent yields.

Cactus is legal in Oz, can be easily purchased and grown (although slowly) and the feedback loop from extraction to consumption is much faster.

I understand that growing stuff is very satisfying but I can't afford the time spent in hunting and all the variables in growing shrooms.

Fantastic if you like it, but if all you want is a steady personal supply of entheogens then shrooms seem to involve a dedication and spare time I don't have.

Appreciate all your info. Many thanks.


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Re: Growing Subs in Southern States of Australia [Re: mandalorian]
    #27404400 - 07/27/21 02:30 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

just keep it outside, having wet wood inside will only favor green molds, the fresh air will keep them at bay
and this is probably not going anywhere.

If you find some subs then take a few of the wood they are growing on put in small container and add
the same amount of uncolonized wood chips, not more. This would be the easiest to build something up
or start with stem buds on cardboard.

But yeah, I can understand your point regarding hunting or growing and time and cacti are a great thing and really
low maintenance once you have a few big plants established.

This is the Trichocereus thread (San Pedro and such):

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27404112#27404112


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