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too much light?
    #27251004 - 03/13/21 09:24 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

hello, i'm on my first grow, i bought a growkit, got it all set up.

i put it in my room close to the window, it gets no diert sunlight only indirect.

right now they're getting the light from outside from 6 to 18 and then i'm in my room with the light on until 1/2 am

so about 18H of light per day (sometimes 16 sometimes 19, depends)


is this too much light? and does the light need to follow a schedule like with weed or it doesn't matter with shrooms?


i got everything set-up in my room i don't really wanna move it. is 18h of light fine?



few other question:i'm growing colombian shrooms, what's the optimal temp?





these are the instructions: 1. Place the grow kit without lid in the plastic bag supplied. Fold the opening of the plastic bag a few times and attach the two supplied paper clips.
2. Choose your grow space. The space should be between 20-28 degrees Celsius constantly. Use a heating mat to regulate the temperature*. Place the grow kit in such a way that it gets daylight (never direct sunlight). Spray the inside of the plastic bag with water every day and also let in some fresh air.
3. As soon as the first pinheads appear (small balls) you can open the grow bag a little so that water can evaporate. This can take up to 3 weeks.
4. About a week after the first pinheads appear you can harvest for the first time. The mushrooms are ready when the fleece under the hat is about to tear. When this happens the mushrooms will lose their spores and this will make the next harvest difficult.
5. Harvest the mushrooms by taking them at the bottom of their stems and pulling them loose with a twist.
6. For the next harvest, take the grow kit out of the plastic bag and pour in clean tap water. Place the lid and let it soak for 12 hours. Pour away the excess water and start the process from step 1.
* Turn on the heating mat and place the sealant on top. Switch off the heating mat after two days. When the first pinheads appear, turn on the mat again. Open the plastic bag a little so that excess water can evaporate.
Note: Start growing as soon as you have received the grow kit (waiting will reduce the yield).  If this is not immediately possible, store the kit at a temperature of 10-18 degrees Celsius.



i'm a bit confused on the following steps:
2: how much water should i spray and how often should i let air in? also what's the optimal humidity in the bag?


3: how much water should i let evaporate? it's just very vage instructions.

6: how much water should i pour in?


Edited by datboi12 (03/13/21 09:49 AM)


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27251176 - 03/13/21 11:13 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Hi there,

first forget about the heating mat, if you have one.
It`s a cry for contams. Use it better for plants.
If you feel comfortable, shrooms will also.
Usually they like a 12/12 lighting cycle, but it don`t think more light will ruin it. Just look you don`t put it to direct sunlight.

2. There`s a picture needed. If you have vermiculite on top,
it`s not easy to tell.
Personally i`d poke some tiny holes in the bag for a bit air movement.
These filters just provide very little gas exchange and are bad shit by the way,  place it into another bigger plastic box with a lid, if you can.

3. Don`t overthink it, it`s just a growkit. Place it somewhere, mist and wait.

6. For the soak, you take the box and fill it with tap water.
The brick should be submerged with the lid put on.
Personally i never soak, i just pour some water to let it absorb slowly,
or give a heavy mist.
That`s your decision on your way to try real cultivation next time :wink:

In the end no one can tell you what you get out of a growkit.
So good luck, and perhaps load up a picture if you like.

                          :cookiemonster:
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Re: too much light? [Re: Goatrider]
    #27251331 - 03/13/21 01:04 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

You can give them light 24 hours if you want. Mine get like 18 hours too, I don't know the exact amount but I have LEDs and a small amount of indirect sunlight as well.


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Re: too much light? [Re: Goatrider]
    #27251399 - 03/13/21 01:36 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Goatrider said:
Hi there,

first forget about the heating mat, if you have one.
It`s a cry for contams. Use it better for plants.
If you feel comfortable, shrooms will also.
Usually they like a 12/12 lighting cycle, but it don`t think more light will ruin it. Just look you don`t put it to direct sunlight.

2. There`s a picture needed. If you have vermiculite on top,
it`s not easy to tell.
Personally i`d poke some tiny holes in the bag for a bit air movement.
These filters just provide very little gas exchange and are bad shit by the way,  place it into another bigger plastic box with a lid, if you can.

3. Don`t overthink it, it`s just a growkit. Place it somewhere, mist and wait.

6. For the soak, you take the box and fill it with tap water.
The brick should be submerged with the lid put on.
Personally i never soak, i just pour some water to let it absorb slowly,
or give a heavy mist.
That`s your decision on your way to try real cultivation next time :wink:

In the end no one can tell you what you get out of a growkit.
So good luck, and perhaps load up a picture if you like.

                          :cookiemonster:
.



my room temp is 19/20c i build a mini heated greenhouse, i took a huge ceramic pot (because ceramic is good at holding heat) and i  put a 20w light inside of it (it's wrapped in black tape, so it only provides head)

and i put the growbox inside, the temp inside is 23-25c do you think it's bad to keep it in there?

what exactly is contamination?  i don't quite understand how and why it happens.


here is a pic of the kit and the bag, so you think i should make holes in the bag?

to give me a rough idea, with a spray bottle, how many times should i spray it? i'm one who is very obsessed with everything being perfect :eek::stoned:

also, is working in a sterile environment so crucial? what exactly should i do? is it enough to disinfect my hands?

https://imgur.com/a/AAZPyqh
thanks for the advice!


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Re: too much light? [Re: Professor X]
    #27251404 - 03/13/21 01:38 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Professor X said:
You can give them light 24 hours if you want. Mine get like 18 hours too, I don't know the exact amount but I have LEDs and a small amount of indirect sunlight as well.



those are some nice looking shroomies

i bought my grow kit from sirius.nl are their grow kits good?

also are mushrooms strains very different from each other like weed?

do different species have different effects or it's a bit exaggerated?


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27251420 - 03/13/21 01:46 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

We deal with varieties of fungus. There are many many strains in a culture of a variety.

Dnt ever buy a grow kit again.

As far as im concerned they do. You will notice a difference between APE and LGT.


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Re: too much light? [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27251431 - 03/13/21 01:55 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Feasoghorm said:
We deal with varieties of fungus. There are many many strains in a culture of a variety.

Dnt ever buy a grow kit again.

As far as im concerned they do. You will notice a difference between APE and LGT.



could you tell me what APE AND LGT mean?


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27251435 - 03/13/21 01:57 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Albino Penis Envy
Luecistic Golden Teacher


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27251444 - 03/13/21 02:06 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

datboi12 said:
Quote:

Professor X said:
You can give them light 24 hours if you want. Mine get like 18 hours too, I don't know the exact amount but I have LEDs and a small amount of indirect sunlight as well.



those are some nice looking shroomies

i bought my grow kit from sirius.nl are their grow kits good?

also are mushrooms strains very different from each other like weed?

do different species have different effects or it's a bit exaggerated?



Never used a growkit so I don't know. I personally don't recommend letting anyone else do anything for you it's never caused me anything but problems.

That pic in my Sig is Koh Samui Super Strain grain from agar. It was 1 quart to 2 quarts of coir and that is the dry weight. I took a clone from that tub that eventually became the main monoculture I use now. It's my biggest producer.

As far as difference in varieties ("strains") I would say there is more difference between isolates than anything else with a few exceptions (people say PE and APE are ungodly, my AA+ is the strongest I have ever seen but I have PE that will be inspected under a microscope then put to agar tomorrow so we will soon see and some PE my buddy recently brought me to try put up in a jar in my kitchen) I'm sure there may be other compounds involved that we don't know about so there could be more differences but the testing is not available like it is with cannabis at the moment so it is all purely speculation and anecdotes until restrictions are lifted or someone nuts up and does some actual testing.

APE and LGT are varieties. APE is Abino Penis Envy and LGT is Leukistic Golden Teacher. They have very different appearances (phenotypes).


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Re: too much light? [Re: Professor X]
    #27251466 - 03/13/21 02:27 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Professor X said:
Quote:

datboi12 said:
Quote:

Professor X said:
You can give them light 24 hours if you want. Mine get like 18 hours too, I don't know the exact amount but I have LEDs and a small amount of indirect sunlight as well.



those are some nice looking shroomies

i bought my grow kit from sirius.nl are their grow kits good?

also are mushrooms strains very different from each other like weed?

do different species have different effects or it's a bit exaggerated?



Never used a growkit so I don't know. I personally don't recommend letting anyone else do anything for you it's never caused me anything but problems.

That pic in my Sig is Koh Samui Super Strain grain from agar. It was 1 quart to 2 quarts of coir and that is the dry weight. I took a clone from that tub that eventually became the main monoculture I use now. It's my biggest producer.

As far as difference in varieties ("strains") I would say there is more difference between isolates than anything else with a few exceptions (people say PE and APE are ungodly, my AA+ is the strongest I have ever seen but I have PE that will be inspected under a microscope then put to agar tomorrow so we will soon see and some PE my buddy recently brought me to try put up in a jar in my kitchen) I'm sure there may be other compounds involved that we don't know about so there could be more differences but the testing is not available like it is with cannabis at the moment so it is all purely speculation and anecdotes until restrictions are lifted or someone nuts up and does some actual testing.

APE and LGT are varieties. APE is Abino Penis Envy and LGT is Leukistic Golden Teacher. They have very different appearances (phenotypes).




i see, as someone with a lot of experience when it comes to growing weed and lots of successful grows, do you think i'll be able to grasp growing mushrooms fast or is the likelihood of something going wrong high when you're not using a kit?


can you recommend me a good video/article that will teach me how to grow without a growkit  (something that isn't too long of a read, i have the attention span of a red fish)


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27251476 - 03/13/21 02:35 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

i found this playlist, he seems to know his stuff, what do you guys think?
list=PLoIwj2EwNzWEl67Z6l-oNqVKHhrWVPOCb


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27251480 - 03/13/21 02:37 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: too much light? [Re: Zifozonke]
    #27251535 - 03/13/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

If you want success you need to pick a trusted tek and follow it to the T. Mycology has a sharp ass learning curve so your gonna wanna round that b4 doing weird shit.


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Re: too much light? [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27252096 - 03/14/21 05:34 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

As soon as the first pinheads appear (small balls) you can open the grow bag a little so that water can evaporate. This can take up to 3 weeks.


about this, should i let all of  the water evaporate?


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27256691 - 03/17/21 04:57 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

helloo?


Edited by datboi12 (03/17/21 05:26 AM)


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27256695 - 03/17/21 05:00 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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datboi12 said:
As soon as the first pinheads appear (small balls) you can open the grow bag a little so that water can evaporate. This can take up to 3 weeks.


about this, should i let all of  the water evaporate?




No, you just want evaporation to occur at sub level to facilitate humidity and fae.
If all the water evaporated the sub would dry out too much.


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Re: too much light? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27256715 - 03/17/21 05:31 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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DERRAYLD said:
Quote:

datboi12 said:
As soon as the first pinheads appear (small balls) you can open the grow bag a little so that water can evaporate. This can take up to 3 weeks.


about this, should i let all of  the water evaporate?




No, you just want evaporation to occur at sub level to facilitate humidity and fae.
If all the water evaporated the sub would dry out too much.




so just open the bag a little and leave it like that until  harvest?


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Re: too much light? [Re: datboi12]
    #27256722 - 03/17/21 05:41 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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datboi12 said:
Quote:

DERRAYLD said:
Quote:

datboi12 said:
As soon as the first pinheads appear (small balls) you can open the grow bag a little so that water can evaporate. This can take up to 3 weeks.


about this, should i let all of  the water evaporate?




No, you just want evaporation to occur at sub level to facilitate humidity and fae.
If all the water evaporated the sub would dry out too much.




so just open the bag a little and leave it like that until  harvest?




If you just leave the bag open it could dry out too much, open the bag for a few minutes to allow fae.
You could open the bag and fold it loosely and secure the flap with some tape partially allowing air flow.


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