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Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl
    #25104548 - 03/31/18 01:01 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/27/francisco-quiroz-zamora-mexican-drug-kingpin-fentanyl/
By Katie Zezima | The Washington Post
March 27, 2018 at 10:23 pm


Authorities in New York have indicted a suspected Mexican drug kingpin they say was responsible for trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million people.

Authorities say the arrest of Francisco Quiroz-Zamora provides a window into how the powerful Sinaloa cartel moves drugs from Mexico to the United States. Quiroz-Zamora, a 41-year-old known as “Gordo,” or the Fat One, has been charged with operating as a major trafficker, first-degree sale of a controlled substance and second-degree conspiracy.

Quiroz-Zamora and five co-defendants will be arraigned in New York City on Tuesday.

Officials with New York’s Special Narcotics Prosecutor indicted Quiroz-Zamora. Officials allege he arranged for 44 pounds, or nearly 20 kilograms, of fentanyl to be shipped to New York – a haul of drugs that had the potential to kill 10 million people. Fentanyl is about 50 times more powerful than heroin, and just a few grains can kill.

Fentanyl, which is made in clandestine labs with cheap chemicals, has become a lucrative business for traffickers. It is often cut into heroin or pressed into counterfeit pills made to resemble legitimate prescription drugs, including OxyContin and Xanax.

For a high-level dealer, Quiroz-Zamora was extremely involved in every aspect of the process that gets drugs from creators to users, officials claim. He organized a pipeline that sent drugs from Mexico to Arizona and California through trucks, cars and drug couriers and authorized transactions between customers and dealers, according to authorities.

Mexican trafficking groups are attempting to turn New York into their distribution hub, and fentanyl is now their main product. The amount of fentanyl seized by the Special Narcotics Prosecutor in New York rose from 35 pounds in 2016 to 491 pounds last year.

The drugs are now managed by inconspicuous dealers. They include a middle-aged couple who authorities said came to New York to broker the sale of 141 pounds of fentanyl seized from a Queens apartment.

Quiroz-Zamora allegedly was planning for a lucrative payday. He negotiated a going rate of between $45,000 and $50,000 per kilo of fentanyl. Officials seized the fentanyl as the result of two undercover sales they said were organized by Quiroz-Zamora.

In one instance, the drugs were stuffed in a duffel bag and placed atop a vending machine at the Umbrella Hotel in the Bronx in June.

In another, authorities said they found more than five pounds of fentanyl in a $4,000-a-month apartment on Central Park West, along with $12,000 in cash and a loaded gun. Thousands of packages of drugs ready for sale with names including “Uber” and “Wild Card” were discovered in the apartment. A man who left the apartment in an Uber was arrested along with the driver after heroin was found in the car.

Authorities allege Quiroz-Zamora went to New York in November to collect money he thought he was owed. He was arrested at Penn Station in New York City after arriving in in an extremely roundabout way. He allegedly flew from Texas to Connecticut and went to Delaware, where he boarded a train that took him to Penn Station.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: durian_2008]
    #25104551 - 03/31/18 01:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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made in clandestine labs with cheap chemicals




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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: durian_2008]
    #25104738 - 03/31/18 02:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Who will shed a tear if he gets the death penalty?


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25104861 - 03/31/18 03:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

fentynal is a legal drug
it is technically possible to administer it in a aqueous solution, that's why it's dose is so small


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Konyap]
    #25104872 - 03/31/18 03:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Omg they arrested the Uber driver who picked one of the guys up. They must of been able to prove the driver knew right? Could you imagine pickingn someone up for a ride and being arrested for heroin.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Crispy224]
    #25105007 - 03/31/18 04:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think it's possible to make bulk amounts of lab-quality anything, under-the-table or for cheap.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #25105443 - 03/31/18 08:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Who will shed a tear if he gets the death penalty?





  I will,

Might as well execute people for carrots


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: LIBERTYNY]
    #25106042 - 04/01/18 06:00 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Nobody is getting the death penalty.

What i think is interesting is they always seem to label nyc fent-dope as "Uber". Once by an Uber driver. This is really, really stupid.

But yeah of course there are people with tons of raw fent. I really doubt its fentanyl citrate but who knows

You cant charge someone for someone else's mistakes. If that were the case, youd flip the US upside down, people all saying "its HIS fault i got addicted". They tried to do the drug dealer death penalty thing in the 80s, when crack was killing people. Didnt fly then, wouldnt fly now. Its like the arming teachers idea. Sure, you have 5 morons who think its a great idea.

Everybody knows its a gross violation of human rights and will only escalate the drug war. Most people, including law enforcement, know this. Its not like they cant synthesize another opioid


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: durian_2008]
    #25106581 - 04/01/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Fentanyl.  Bad stuff man, seriously. :loljesus:  You get to see him sooner I guess.  If you believe in such things.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Fractal420]
    #25106731 - 04/01/18 01:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

You are right the dp will not be used but its a tool in the box. Don't you want to see dirtbags like that shut down? They give him an offer, life in prison or 20 years depending on how strong a case they have or go to trial. If max penalty is 20 or life anyway he might try to kill some witnesses and take his chances. With the dp on the table, 20 to 50 years doesn't look so bad.

People are dropping like flies from this stuff. Its sneaked in to other products and called something else. However if they did at some point execute anyone it would be someone like this guy sending hundreds of kilos over


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #25106790 - 04/01/18 02:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Lol, you start that shit up and next thing you know Trump and his friends will call for death of all serious drug dealers, or worser sentencing. It doesn't work. It's a waste of time and money and resources.

Maybe the next young adult who accidentally gets nbome hits and his friend takes 5 and dies, he will get the death penalty?

Where does it end? What if the dealer really thought he was selling heroin? What if he thought it was properly mixed fentanyl powder pressed into pills and really thought his clients knew how to properly dose it? What if they thought it was real oxy, or percocet? How do they know the dealer isn't lying to get out of the death penalty? How do they know he's telling the truth?

If it's OK for them to give the death penalty to opioid dealers, why not coke, crack, meth dealers? That stuff kills too, just less often. What if it starts getting cut with fentanyl for whatever stupid reason?

Does any of that matter?



If you think they will pass this law and only execute the heavy duty dealers like this guy, I fucking doubt it.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Fractal420]
    #25106985 - 04/01/18 04:49 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, but you can charge someone for someone elses mistakes

That's how i got popped for someone else having 800 bags of heroin in the whip


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #25107299 - 04/01/18 08:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Who will shed a tear if he gets the death penalty?



You are on a site where many members are "manufacturing" very large amounts of a schedule one drug, and are saying you would have no problem if the government executes someone for selling large amounts of schedule one drugs, not even manufacturing them.
  Quit enabling the government to be brutal and unconstitutional. The Constitution gives you the right to injest what you want and sell what you want. You can't false advertise and sell fentanyl saying it's heroin, but if someone is selling fentanyl to a buyer who wants pure fentanyl why does the government need to get involved and start taking people's money out of their paycheck? Dealers aren't kidnapping children and forcing them to take heroin, people are buying it voluntarily. It's great you want to help the world, I can be a bleeding heart liberal myself, but please if you want to help addicts , do it without taking my money by force.  And when you get busted for your monotub and the dickhead dea or narc. Detectives weigh everything mycelium and all and then we'll see if anyone will shed a tear for you when you get put to death. Doesn't matter if fentanyl is more dangerous legally speaking it's schedule 1 and technically fentanyl is schedule 2 since it's a pharmaceutical. Even if you don't grow my point still stands because we're on the shroomery for Christ's sake.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: fractalgod]
    #25107304 - 04/01/18 08:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Who will shed a tear if he gets the death penalty?



You are on a site where many members are "manufacturing" very large amounts of a schedule one drug, and are saying you would have no problem if the government executes someone for selling large amounts of schedule one drugs, not even manufacturing them.
  Quit enabling the government to be brutal and unconstitutional. The Constitution gives you the right to injest what you want and sell what you want. You can't false advertise and sell fentanyl saying it's heroin, but if someone is selling fentanyl to a buyer who wants pure fentanyl why does the government need to get involved and start taking people's money out of their paycheck? Dealers aren't kidnapping children and forcing them to take heroin, people are buying it voluntarily. It's great you want to help the world, I can be a bleeding heart liberal myself, but please if you want to help addicts , do it without taking my money by force.  And when you get busted for your monotub and the dickhead dea or narc. Detectives weigh everything mycelium and all and then we'll see if anyone will shed a tear for you when you get put to death. Doesn't matter if fentanyl is more dangerous legally speaking it's schedule 1 and technically fentanyl is schedule 2 since it's a pharmaceutical. Even if you don't grow my point still stands because we're on the shroomery for Christ's sake.



  people are so hypocritical ... people like you and me can see it... why cant people like stonehedge see it as well?


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Kinko]
    #25107356 - 04/01/18 08:44 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

^agreed. Fuck the ignorant. Cant let em get in the way of the revolutionaries.

Uncle Shrooming on Shroomery, okay with setting the precedent of this shit being okay. Not everyone here understands how bad the war on drugs really is. Which is partially surprising,

At the same time, i am referring to this pattern i always see from reading the news, not singling anyone out. Cause its not a "one-person-problem"


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Fractal420] * 1
    #25107457 - 04/01/18 09:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I think that people should know exactly what they are getting and accept responsibility for their own choices.

If it was misidentified, or against someone's will, then, I don't feel sorry, for the dealer.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: durian_2008]
    #25107487 - 04/01/18 10:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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I think that people should know exactly what they are getting and accept responsibility for their own choices.

If it was misidentified, or against someone's will, then, I don't feel sorry, for the dealer.



in the eyes of the law .. a drug dealer is a drug dealer... matters not what he sells. :smile: people seem to forget that fact?


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Kinko] * 1
    #25107499 - 04/01/18 10:10 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I don't forget that there is a stigma attached, and that an untrustworthy user is a liability to the dealer.


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25107504 - 04/01/18 10:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Not me I will be the least lachrymose person around


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Re: Suspected drug kingpin charged in New York with trafficking enough fentanyl to kill 10 million peopl [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #25107519 - 04/01/18 10:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Some of these folks here are idiots , they think mushrooms and opioids are the same drugs .

They think lsd and a joint are In the same ball park too most likely .

Ok so hypothetically a guy sells pot to kids and it kills 50 percent of them . This dirtbag doesn't care , he knows , he does it next week too, why does he care , he s getting bank . His weed is special , people can't cope without it , man he's the man

Just killing off the weak , makin dat money .

Fucking idiot s

Seriously , who cares if most people here are growing a schedule one , it's not driving them to death , at least not nearly as many . It's Unbelievable people think there should not be harsh consequences for pushers who's products kill anyone , I'd love to pole how many of these 'spare the dealer types ' here have lost any family member or friend to an opioid addiction and then ask them again after they do. I wonder if I'd hear the same proscribe . Also if they re so protective of these hard drug dealers , maybe they're  dealers whom have sold the same dope themselves is why, 

A crow won't poke out the eye of another crow ?

Lol  I can't believe the difference can't be seen clearly , no one would ever pass laws killing dealer s  for other schedule 1 drugs that didn't cause mass death number s .


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