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hamloaf
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Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. 17
#24952939 - 01/29/18 06:03 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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2 cups of dry seed per quart jar.

Load seed into pot, and give seed a rinse, or two with hot water.

Fill pot of rinsed seed with water until water comes 2-3 inches above level of seed.

Turn stove onto high until water temerature reaches 200F.

When water temerature reaches 200F turn stove down to medium, then set a timer for 5 minutes.

Once time is up place seed into strainer of choice.

Allow seed to cool until seed is either room temperature, or steam is no longer escaping from seed.
Load seed into jars 5/8ths full.

Cap jars.

Cover jars with a square of aluminum foil.

Fill PC with water.

Load jars into PC, and start it up.

Pressure cook seed for 90-120 minutes @ 15-20psi.

Fully colonized seed.

Fruits.

Another harvest of fruits with seed prepped via the Tek featured in original post.
Edited by hamloaf (01/31/18 01:03 PM)
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24952979 - 01/29/18 06:22 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just what I needed, I hate soaking my wbs.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: GalliumPE] 2
#24952992 - 01/29/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: eatyualive] 1
#24953013 - 01/29/18 06:39 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another badass write up my friend!  Hamloaf needs a TC tag
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: GalliumPE] 1
#24953089 - 01/29/18 07:12 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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GalliumPE said: Just what I needed, I hate soaking my wbs. 
Seed goes from dry to fully sterilized in 4 hours using this method.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24953120 - 01/29/18 07:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Iโm gonna try this on my next grow
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Tormato]
#24953179 - 01/29/18 07:46 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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5 minute cook?! Holy shit thats fast. How does it compare to 30 and 60 minute hot soaks like fooman?
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Tormato]
#24953501 - 01/29/18 10:54 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tormato said: Iโm gonna try this on my next grow 
Post results here.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: JHOVA]
#24953556 - 01/29/18 11:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: 5 minute cook?! Holy shit thats fast. How does it compare to 30 and 60 minute hot soaks like fooman?
The grain hot soaks for more than 5 min if you include the time it takes for the water to heat up. So between 10 and 15 min hot soak in this grain prep.
I would say 15min hot soak gets WBS to about 60% hydration
and 60 min hot soak hydrates the WBS to 77%.
So there is a big difference in hydration with WBS at least.
After 20 min of being dumped in a pot of hot water (after removing the pot from heat after full boil) Fooman style I think

After 60 min in hot water soak 60-85 degrees C (165-210F)

WBS hydration methods -[EXPERIMENT]-
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Edited by Mateja (01/29/18 11:48 PM)
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Mateja]
#24953636 - 01/30/18 01:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sweet. I'm out of oats now, but have 80 pounds of WBS. I'll be trying this tomorrow, I think! Do you stir the seeds in the strainer to steam dry or just leave them alone?
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: stareatclouds]
#24953642 - 01/30/18 01:28 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Stir.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24953712 - 01/30/18 02:59 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm gonna have to try this on my next wbs prep. just picked up a 20lb bag for 6 bucks the other day on sale. Plus no cracked corn
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Mateja]
#24954146 - 01/30/18 09:11 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
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JHOVA said: 5 minute cook?! Holy shit thats fast. How does it compare to 30 and 60 minute hot soaks like fooman?
The grain hot soaks for more than 5 min if you include the time it takes for the water to heat up. So between 10 and 15 min hot soak in this grain prep.
I would say 15min hot soak gets WBS to about 60% hydration
and 60 min hot soak hydrates the WBS to 77%.
So there is a big difference in hydration with WBS at least.
After 20 min of being dumped in a pot of hot water (after removing the pot from heat after full boil) Fooman style I think

After 60 min in hot water soak 60-85 degrees C (165-210F)

WBS hydration methods -[EXPERIMENT]-
This is correct. In fact, it's a little under 60%. Weighed out 400 grams of seed dry, then compared & contrasted.
Dry weight.

Wet weight.

Never gave hydration of grain much thought due to method of seed preparation working out so good for several years. This way of doing it still works great as displayed by fruits featured above.
However, to get moisture content of seed more towards the 75% range figure instead of a five minute simmer on medium heat up the simmer time on low heat for somewhere between 15-30 minutes will suffice. Will be playing with simmer times in the near future with goal of getting moisture content of seed to 75% in shortest amount of time possible, and reporting results here. Thanks for helping out.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Mateja]
#24954175 - 01/30/18 09:27 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
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JHOVA said: 5 minute cook?! Holy shit thats fast. How does it compare to 30 and 60 minute hot soaks like fooman?
The grain hot soaks for more than 5 min if you include the time it takes for the water to heat up. So between 10 and 15 min hot soak in this grain prep.
I would say 15min hot soak gets WBS to about 60% hydration
and 60 min hot soak hydrates the WBS to 77%.
So there is a big difference in hydration with WBS at least.
After 20 min of being dumped in a pot of hot water (after removing the pot from heat after full boil) Fooman style I think

After 60 min in hot water soak 60-85 degrees C (165-210F)

WBS hydration methods -[EXPERIMENT]-
Good post Hamloaf I will be watching your updates of the tweaking on this.
Very good addition Mateah!
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Shroomway]
#24956952 - 01/31/18 01:03 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another harvest of fruits with seed prepped via the Tek featured in original post.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24962877 - 02/02/18 09:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't scoop out or do anything with the sunflower seeds? It looks like my brand has a substantial amount more of them than yours. I'm sure they don't ruin anything, but since they don't add anything either, I'll probably scoop out the floaters when I rinse the grain.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: stareatclouds]
#24962924 - 02/02/18 09:19 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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They add lignin, as well as, generate more points of inoculation to receiving grains, or bulk substrate. Floater removal is strictly optional, though.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#24962945 - 02/02/18 09:27 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Think ill be able to splash some Lc on them babys if there under hydrated iv got 2 Lc that been starting for a few days know and wanna use some up
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#24963022 - 02/02/18 09:53 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: They add lignin, as well as, generate more points of inoculation to receiving grains, or bulk substrate. Floater removal is strictly optional, though.
I'm more concerned with the fact they can't hold much water; don't want moisture content lower than normal. My bag has an assload of seeds in it so I'll probably add 1.25 1/2 pints per quart and scoop a bunch of them out.
I read a bit about the chemical makeup of the seeds/hulls. Pretty neat stuff.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: stareatclouds]
#24963081 - 02/02/18 10:12 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said:
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hamloaf said: They add lignin, as well as, generate more points of inoculation to receiving grains, or bulk substrate. Floater removal is strictly optional, though.
I'm more concerned with the fact they can't hold much water; don't want moisture content lower than normal. My bag has an assload of seeds in it so I'll probably add 1.25 1/2 pints per quart and scoop a bunch of them out.
I read a bit about the chemical makeup of the seeds/hulls. Pretty neat stuff.
I leave them cause I'm lazy lol.
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