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Aureus
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Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms?
#22274813 - 09/22/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've already tripped probably more than 25 times on shrooms, and yesterday happened something that has never happened before. I kept hearing voices in my head from random conversations that i've already had in the past. It was so annoying that I had to put on some music to make it stop. Is it normal? It has never happened with me before.
Edited by Aureus (09/22/15 04:14 PM)
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Achillita
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Aureus]
#22274850 - 09/22/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard voices in the "noise" of a mushroom trip. Some were conversations I had, others were just weird. But the voices I heard are nothing like schizophrenic voices, which I had experienced in the past.
If it's over once the effects wear off, you're golden. Psychedelics can set off mental conditions, but I doubt you're gonna go mad permanently unless you trip like every day.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Achillita]
#22274981 - 09/22/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been tripping pretty much everyday, maybe i'm already crazy who knows lol
Edited by Aureus (09/22/15 04:32 PM)
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Aureus]
#22275070 - 09/22/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you've been tripping every day, there's your problem. Too much psychedelics can make you feel a little unstable for a while, but you are not permanently mad, not by a long shot. I actually believe intelligent use of mushrooms help a person become saner. Certainly seem to have in my case.
As for whether it is possible to go permanently mad on shrooms, I would have to say yes just because almost anything is possible. I mean, people go mad who have never done shrooms. But it is very unlikely especially if you don't abuse it.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Peyote Road]
#22275102 - 09/22/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know and have heard of more people going mad from being an alcoholic way more than any sort of mushroom trip.
Also I agree with peyote road, psychedelics have made me much saner.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Peyote Road]
#22275139 - 09/22/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: If you've been tripping every day, there's your problem. Too much psychedelics can make you feel a little unstable for a while, but you are not permanently mad, not by a long shot. I actually believe intelligent use of mushrooms help a person become saner. Certainly seem to have in my case.
As for whether it is possible to go permanently mad on shrooms, I would have to say yes just because almost anything is possible. I mean, people go mad who have never done shrooms. But it is very unlikely especially if you don't abuse it.
If you're mentally healthy, even if you trip everyday you can't go mad. Psilocybin is basically the same molecule that makes us dream everyday N,N-Dimethyltryptamine. Tryptamines are very safe and they're produced naturally by our own body.
Edited by Aureus (09/22/15 05:01 PM)
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Aureus]
#22276430 - 09/22/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So are opiates but they can still kill if you take too much. I could be wrong but I feel like too much tripping burns you out, in a similar way as smoking too much weed. Strong sychedelics can also space you out more than weed though.
How much is too much is going to be different for every person and some people can handle and even benefit from amounts that would be way way too much for other people. For instance, I sometimes think that if your average american did the amount of drugs I have done, they would either be enlightened or in a mental institution.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Peyote Road]
#22276791 - 09/22/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i tripped nearly every couple days last season.
can't handle shit now, feel weird off just the equiv. of 1g of cubensis, too much of a good thing can be bad, few bad trips now all my trips are bad even on tiny doses, but, the bad trips help my anxiety in the days after.
so i keep subjecting myself to them.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Aureus]
#22276817 - 09/22/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aureus said: I've already tripped probably more than 25 times on shrooms, and yesterday happened something that has never happened before. I kept hearing voices in my head from random conversations that i've already had in the past. It was so annoying that I had to put on some music to make it stop. Is it normal? It has never happened with me before.
Maybe you should give it a rest for a while.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Aureus]
#22276831 - 09/22/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aureus said:
If you're mentally healthy, even if you trip everyday you can't go mad.
People who trip everyday are, by that very description, mad. Period. Exclamation point.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: champinhom]
#22277348 - 09/23/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The world is already permanently mad and that's how everyone starts off.
Your question should be "Is it possible to become sane by ingesting Mushrooms?"
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Aureus]
#22277361 - 09/23/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ignore the voices and go ahead with your life they mean nothing
Give tripping a break
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Elff]
#22277625 - 09/23/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's something I always got when i had been partying all night. It wears off in a day or so but if you're dosing every day your brain dosent have that chance. Don't dose everyday either man, it's irresponsible, disrespectful to the substance, and dosent really give you the full experience.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22277854 - 09/23/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Might be more down the schizophrenic alley if the voices were commenting on your CURRENT thoughts and actions, and INTERACTING with each other.
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: circastes]
#22278323 - 09/23/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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circastes said: Might be more down the schizophrenic alley if the voices were commenting on your CURRENT thoughts and actions, and INTERACTING with each other.
It was just fragments of conversations from the past, for example: If in the past i heard someone saying "I dont like math because its too hard" i would only hear the fragment "because its too hard" and it was playing very fast, every second was a random memory. I guess that's normal since psilocybin plays with your serotonin receptors which is linked to your memories. It didn't last very long though, it stopped once i was coming down.
Edited by Aureus (09/23/15 11:16 AM)
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Re: Is it possible to go permanently mad on shrooms? [Re: Aureus]
#22278376 - 09/23/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only people with a genetic predisposition to schizophrenia can be driven mad by psychedelics. Are you at risk for that? If so, then you shouldn't take them.
Otherwise, psychedelics put the brain in a state that is not unlike dreaming or psychosis, biochemically it's kind of a mixture of the two plus a few features unique to tripping so from time to time you may have hallucinations that are similar to features of some mental illnesses, but that doesn't mean you're going crazy, just that you're tripping.
I do think that it's possible for inexperienced people who dose too high and get into trouble and have a really, truly horrifying and terrible trip to suffer from PTSD post trip, but that is entirely avoidable with the right set and setting. Also, there can be some residual loopiness for a week or two after a trip where you're more open to suggestion, magical thinking and spirituality, if you trip too much this can lead to a slight paranoia, susceptibility to bullshit and New Age mojo-jojo, but then again some people around here love to revel in that shit.
Edited by P.Zappatecorum (09/23/15 11:33 AM)
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