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OfflineAklee
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Mushroom ID Request
    #20604525 - 09/23/14 12:42 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)








Habitat:
Found in cow pies next to a pond with grass around cow pies. Cambodia, South East Asia (during the beginning of rainy season)Altitude 18 m (59 ft)

Gills:
Gills are like you see in the photos. Not sure how to describe them.

Stem:
Stem was 3cm and shorter, thin, white, ring 2/3 or 3/4 the way up.

Cap:
Caps were rounded to almost flat. Largest one was a little smaller than American dime size. Color was same creamy white as stem with a little rust color.

Spore print color:
Spore print is dark purple, almost black.

Bruising:
Seems to not bruise or I waited too long after picking to do a bruise check.

Other information:
Smells like old wet wood but not very strong. Neither bad nor great. Kinda like a damp forest?


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Invisiblemaynardjameskeenan
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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: Aklee]
    #20604562 - 09/23/14 01:01 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

They might be Psilocybe cubensis but I doubt it, they are definitely psychoactive. Cool find! :thumbup:
If you can you should save a few so someone with a microscope can properly identify them. As far as I know it doesn't match anything that normally grows in Cambodia but I know next to nothing about the specific mushrooms that grow in your area.


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OfflineHookerWithAPenis
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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #20604580 - 09/23/14 01:13 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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maynardjameskeenan said:
They might be Psilocybe cubensis but I doubt it, they are definitely psychoactive. Cool find! :thumbup:
If you can you should save a few so someone with a microscope can properly identify them. As far as I know it doesn't match anything that normally grows in Cambodia but I know next to nothing about the specific mushrooms that grow in your area.




I think I might have asked this before, but how can you be sure they are psychoactive without having first confirmed the species? Is it purely off of bruising? I don't even see that much bruising :shrug:


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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #20604602 - 09/23/14 01:21 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

How do you not see that blue bruising?

Especially at the base of the mushrooms in the second pic.


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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: Rhizohunter]
    #20604647 - 09/23/14 01:55 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Rhizohunter said:
How do you not see that blue bruising?

Especially at the base of the mushrooms in the second pic.




Don't get me wrong, I do see some. I said not that much. I don't think I can see much at all in the first picture, and it seems that a decent bit of the discolouration is due to spores. I guess I'm used to the ludicrous bruising displayed by P. subaeruginosa


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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #20604684 - 09/23/14 02:30 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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HookerWithAPenis said:
Quote:

maynardjameskeenan said:
They might be Psilocybe cubensis but I doubt it, they are definitely psychoactive. Cool find! :thumbup:
If you can you should save a few so someone with a microscope can properly identify them. As far as I know it doesn't match anything that normally grows in Cambodia but I know next to nothing about the specific mushrooms that grow in your area.




I think I might have asked this before, but how can you be sure they are psychoactive without having first confirmed the species? Is it purely off of bruising? I don't even see that much bruising :shrug:



They look like Psilocybes and they are bluing so it's probably safe to say they are active.
The same thing with Gymnopilus, Pluteus and Panaeolus.


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OfflineAklee
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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #20608936 - 09/23/14 10:22 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Is it safe to take your response as a positive ID on Psilocybe mushrooms and collect more of the same kind?

Please excuse my ignorance, but you mentioned that a microscope should be used for an exact identification. Would a mycologist have to do this or can it be done by a layman? Is it possible to upload pictures from the microscope here for identification by a trusted identifier?

Thank you for your time.


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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: Aklee]
    #20608948 - 09/23/14 10:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I'd wait for a second opinion before you consume anything if you are unsure, we're humans and make mistakes too.


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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: Aklee]
    #20609434 - 09/24/14 12:35 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

to answer your micro question, yes, you can do it if you want and have a decent microscope.  toy scopes for kids don't really cut the mustard when it comes to looking at spores and fine features above say, 40x.

for techniques and guides, a search on here might be helpful but this link might also be one of the best ever (and created by someone who posts on the forum if i remember correctly, i got to thank them for doing it) and you might also find it useful and concise.

http://movehumanityforward.org/forums/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=138400&sid=cfaa81b4c947c3dafedeef1e91a00cb9


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InvisibleThe Lightning
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Re: Mushroom ID Request [Re: Aklee]
    #20609670 - 09/24/14 02:17 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Whatever it is you've found, you need to document it with photographs and typed notes!

This could be a moment worthy of study!


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