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Psychs and no weed?
    #20022826 - 05/21/14 11:07 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Any of you psychonauts stay away from weed? I really am starting to hate the munchies and the feeling of social distantness/being in my head.

I'm curious if I could keep up some sort of micro dosing and stay away from weed. Its such a habit of mine that I constantly question its benefits versus its cons. I do love it..

Any info welcome!


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #20022874 - 05/21/14 11:21 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

it's not a regular for me, but everyone's different. i personally either wanna be tripping hard or completely sober; weed is just uninteresting to me and yeah it also makes me really hungry and binge on foods i wouldn't normally binge on. i know a lot of people that smoke it regularly without any problems though.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: KingKnowledge] * 1
    #20022885 - 05/21/14 11:27 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I feel the same, but I live with potheads, myself included, so it's hard to slow down or take a break cuz it's such a social activity. But on a few psychedelic trips with shrooms, mesc, ayahuasca, I've gotten the message that I'm abusing my relationship with cannabis and that it's not serving me anymore.

I've had to take a ~3 week break twice before and the next high after has always been incredibly more potent, like my first highs ever which were pretty much like a shrooms experience. So I think the proper consumption of cannabis is like any other psychedelic... to be taken with respect and patience, giving weeks or months inbetween trips. I truly believe one trip after a month+ break is more enjoyable and revelatory than an entire year of chronic smoking.

But I'm kinda stuck using it as a crutch lately trying to spice up everything y'know.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: Icon]
    #20022899 - 05/21/14 11:31 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I really do not like weed, I liked it for a month and smoked everyday, but now its like a once every month or two thing. It makes my head all fuzzy and my memory really bad, its not for me id much rather be sober


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: ice coffee] * 1
    #20022916 - 05/21/14 11:36 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I absolutely do not smoke weed when I trip. I refuse, I hate the paranoia it brings and it makes me aware of myself and what I'm doing. When I trip I like to go balls deep and just trip balls, complete nonsense. When I add pot to it it just makes me fidgety and unable to relax. It does make the trip and visuals more intense but I like the feeling of a clean trip and refreshing my mind and thinking clearly. Pot just makes me feel dirty n fucked up.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: StellaMagnolia]
    #20022954 - 05/21/14 11:47 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

i like marijuana.  i actually like it so much that when partaking of the puffs i want to fly away with the mistress Mary-Jane and do our thing.

thing is, i find used wrong by many of folk to me liking.  not a social thing for me.  good friends will puff with, and then, i get spun.  is fun if can spin freely, but find mostly have little room for this top to spin.  the balance with spinning into walls eventually will slow top to stop.  what fun is a motionless top?

but remember the good times with the lady Mary Jane.  waking up to a joint in one hand, cup of tea in the other, just watching all the smoke and steam dance in a cloud as if was watching the morning's weather on the news.  smoke two joints in the morning... smoke two joints at night...

there is good, and there is bad.  if looking at good, you see good.  if looking at bad, you see bad.  where are you looking?


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: Icon]
    #20022959 - 05/21/14 11:48 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Every time I take psychedelics I get the "no smoking" vibes & usually feel better during the trip without weed because my thoughts are more clear. IMO  weed really gets the visuals too go crazy & make the experience more psychedelic but it clogs the clarity of my thoughts & prevents me from doing the things I want too .
I usually become sober ( for a week ) after eating a high dose of boomers.
I have soo much weed year round that its hard not too smoke it with other people


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #20023012 - 05/22/14 12:00 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

That love affair died years ago for me.  I was sad at first, but it just wasn't loving me back - paranoia, self loathing.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: Testertips]
    #20023193 - 05/22/14 01:16 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I smoke weed on psychs sometime, though I won't after my last L trip. Absolute paranoia when some Jehovah witness's knocked on my door, I ran straight out the back door and hid for like half an hour freaking that they were government agents. I eventually composed myself but I have never been so scared over something so dumb before in my life.

I'm taking a month long weed brake at the moment, I want to do this then try and get to a psychedelic weed headspace with no other drugs. I've only ever sort of tripped on weed once and that was over 4years ago before I became an everyday smoker.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: newageshaman]
    #20023227 - 05/22/14 01:31 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I am being forced to stop the mj.  I was ridiculous with it.  I went from  smoking, to vaping, to dabbing, to eating potent ass nasty edibles made with grams of hash oil everday, and activated oils.  I recently had to stop. (and am going to have to never do it again for a long time)  The day I stopped cold turkey, I threw up 20 plus times the next day, and couldnt keep water down.  I think I may have eaten something bad idk.  I then got sick with a respiratory infection. Now I'm over my respiratory infection, but I'm way more volatile, and stressed out.  I keep getting in fights, and my left side of my chest just feels tight.  I so wish I could have it.  I'm thinking about trying something else that won't show up on a dtest to help.  I've never done microdosing, but like dude above, I prefer to be tripping hard or sober. edit: after thinking, I have done microdosing by accident.  I got some weak shit lol.  I just have never done it for a long period. Usually when I trip, I don't get high until I start coming down.   

Everybodys different, but damn if I were you, I'd be getting high when I could.  Apparently, I NEED it.



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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #20023564 - 05/22/14 05:09 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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I really am starting to hate the munchies and the feeling of social distantness/being in my head.
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Its such a habit of mine that I constantly question its benefits versus its cons.




I really identify with these two statements. For a long time every time I would get high I would feel like the cons outweighed the pros and that I didnt want to do it anymore. But then the next day when I was sober I would just really want to get high again and I'd do it all again. I have quit multiple times, but kept eventually coming back to it and ending up in my old patterns again.

The longest I quit for was almost two years. The thing I learned is that weed does serve a useful purpose for me. Without it I start seeking that mental diversion in other less healthy ways. I would tend to drink more, for example. So I accepted that I wasn't ready to completely give it up.

Now I limit my use to the end of the day once every few days or so if I want to relax and play video games or something. I don't smoke socially anymore. And I use the smallest amount that I can and still feel the effects.

I like to eat edibles because I know exactly how much it takes to get what I want, and I'm not tempted to over-do it like when I smoke and it makes me just want to keep on smoking more and more. And I take a few months off every year or two to reset my tolerance and clear my head. I'm actually about a month into one of those periods right now.

In some ways I envy the people who are able to just give it up and never look back, and perhaps someday I will be there, but this seems to working for me at the moment.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #20023570 - 05/22/14 05:13 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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KingKnowledge said:
Any of you psychonauts stay away from weed? I really am starting to hate the munchies and the feeling of social distantness/being in my head.

I'm curious if I could keep up some sort of micro dosing and stay away from weed. Its such a habit of mine that I constantly question its benefits versus its cons. I do love it..

Any info welcome!




I toked for many years since I was 15, and before that started smokin cigs when 10!!!

A big thing is people are taken over by the 'I wanna be cool' trip. And it became my religion. When I stopped it a few years ago, I later cringed to think that since being 10 the only social interaction I had with others was with some drug, even as a kid!! And I find that REAL fukin sad

The other morning I was walking in a park, and it was an absolutely beautiful day, and I decided to sit in this really magical spot by this stream under a tree, and it was just magical and I felt all ecstatic---just naturally drunk with the amazingness of everything---the birds, flying about, the insects, the wildlife, all the spring growth, shadows, air, and I was thinking about what you are asking about (I hadn't read your post btw then).

I was thinking WHY do people insist on always being 'high'? What is it that people fear about being so-called sober or natural? I think it is because we are made to fear ourselves, others, and nature, and because of this we seek escape from this fear through being 'high'. Do you get me?


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: zzripz]
    #20023585 - 05/22/14 05:34 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I find half a hit of LSD gives me that pleasant peaceful feeling, with barely any open eye visuals and no obvious changes in behavior - I did this a lot last summer and just walked around in nature with my girlfriend and it was some of the best experiences I've ever had! I figured weed would do a similar thing but it makes me nauseous and confused, which sucks, so I used to just do acid while my mates were stoned/drunk - only issue is pupil dilation but a good pair of sunglasses do the trick! I dont know if thats the kinda thing you mean but it was great for me!


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: crackrocksteady27]
    #20023664 - 05/22/14 06:34 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I definitely don't smoke when I trip, I don't want to be stoned,I feel it detracts from the psychedelic experience. I still smoke from time to time but I prefer only getting high socially.
Weed is cool and all but I don't love it. However you might consider looking for a strain that's higher in CBD.
I like to micro dose mushrooms sometimes but due to quickly building tolerance it's not something people do habitually, at least that I've heard of.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: Silent Z]
    #20023857 - 05/22/14 07:45 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I usually smoke on every trip, but every trip is different.  I'll either....

1. Smoke a bowl or 2 after I have consumed the psychedelic, then save the rest of the smoking for the comedown.
2.  Smoke after consumption, during the peak, and the comedown.
3.  Don't blaze at all until after your peak
4.  Blaze it fat the entire trip


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: zzripz]
    #20024497 - 05/22/14 11:02 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Wow I really appreciate the responses everyone, it's good to see that a few people feel the same way about weed that I do.

I really do love weed. It gets me in a great mindset for a lot of activities that I enjoy doing (including just pondering about life, meditation, playing guitar especially, and hanging with friends), but it obviously has it cons. I eat too much, I am lazier, I spend more time in my head and inside, and less time with friends and searching for girls. And although I don't get as much paranoia anymore, there is definitely an anxiety associated with weed.

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KingKnowledge said:
Any of you psychonauts stay away from weed? I really am starting to hate the munchies and the feeling of social distantness/being in my head.

I'm curious if I could keep up some sort of micro dosing and stay away from weed. Its such a habit of mine that I constantly question its benefits versus its cons. I do love it..

Any info welcome!




I toked for many years since I was 15, and before that started smokin cigs when 10!!!

A big thing is people are taken over by the 'I wanna be cool' trip. And it became my religion. When I stopped it a few years ago, I later cringed to think that since being 10 the only social interaction I had with others was with some drug, even as a kid!! And I find that REAL fukin sad

The other morning I was walking in a park, and it was an absolutely beautiful day, and I decided to sit in this really magical spot by this stream under a tree, and it was just magical and I felt all ecstatic---just naturally drunk with the amazingness of everything---the birds, flying about, the insects, the wildlife, all the spring growth, shadows, air, and I was thinking about what you are asking about (I hadn't read your post btw then).

I was thinking WHY do people insist on always being 'high'? What is it that people fear about being so-called sober or natural? I think it is because we are made to fear ourselves, others, and nature, and because of this we seek escape from this fear through being 'high'. Do you get me?




Interesting perspective. I honestly don't think I'm fearing anything, but its more like I realize how….boring, for the lack of another word, life is when you just walk through the sober motions. I completely agree how some scenes are just completely beautiful and drugs are not needed, but in my day-to-day life, I feel like a lot of things are just average.

When I'm high, I always contemplate how I could get in the best shape sober and dominate my world (in terms of finding my own sense of happiness). However, when I actually get sober, it's a bit disheartening how slow life is and how these big events I am waiting for don't happen often. It's a process for sure.

I think its time for a break starting today.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #20024520 - 05/22/14 11:07 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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i like marijuana.  i actually like it so much that when partaking of the puffs i want to fly away with the mistress Mary-Jane and do our thing.

thing is, i find used wrong by many of folk to me liking.  not a social thing for me.  good friends will puff with, and then, i get spun.  is fun if can spin freely, but find mostly have little room for this top to spin.  the balance with spinning into walls eventually will slow top to stop.  what fun is a motionless top?

but remember the good times with the lady Mary Jane.  waking up to a joint in one hand, cup of tea in the other, just watching all the smoke and steam dance in a cloud as if was watching the morning's weather on the news.  smoke two joints in the morning... smoke two joints at night...

there is good, and there is bad.  if looking at good, you see good.  if looking at bad, you see bad.  where are you looking?




I always will remember the good times :smile: Being completely honest, I think I'm only looking at the over-eating as the major con. Every night I get home stoned off my ass, I can literally consume an extra day's worth of calories.

I'd love to smoke weed if I could control this, and I have controlled it in the past ( lost 50 lbs in high school and I'm now in decently good shape, even though I have high expectations for myself and would love to be in GREAT shape). Maybe the key is moderation of munchies…if only I could do that.

I liked the suggestion of CBD heavy strains that someone posted above; the only problem is that I don't live in a state where I have access to dispensaries or that picky of a selection.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #20024616 - 05/22/14 11:35 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I used to smoke hash or weed on daily basis, but not anymore...it loses its magic when you do so +the paranoia, unreliability, laziness...etc...
With psychedelics it certainly heighten the visual qualities, I'd smoke a joint or two or more...lol
But I really don't care about getting high while tripping, if it exists then why the hell not.


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: moey]
    #20024946 - 05/22/14 01:00 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I've been dry for months now, after using up last years harvest
I do miss it for shrooming, both to potentiate on the peak and getting my appetite back on the comedown
When i just take shrooms, i usually dont eat anything the entire day which makes for kind of a hangover the next day


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Re: Psychs and no weed? [Re: thoraxx]
    #20025171 - 05/22/14 01:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I absolutely love weed I smoked so much that it got to a point that it was just like a cigarette I pretty much was a blunt chain smoker it didn't really get me high no more so I planned on quitting cold turkey for 4months beginning jan 1st and ending 4/20 I pulled it off it wasnt hard even when everybody around me smoked and tried to peer pressure me i did however smoke one time about a month before 4/20 but I was at a tool concert I had to smoke a blunt at least so I smoked a blunt got really high and it was the best concert I've been to ever now when 4/20 came it happened to be easter went out of town and forgot my weed so I didn't smoke all day. Me and my son had this conversation about astral projection and lucid dreaming he was telling me how to try to astral project, well later on that night when I finally got home I rolled a fat blunt and sat in my backyard and enjoyed it now this blunt got me so high it was like the first time again but better I had this feeling I should try to astral project in this state so I layed down and tried I felt like I was almost able to do it I could feel myself and feel another part of me my spirit I guess I was trying to seperate my spirit from my body but it felt like the gravitron (carnival ride shaped like a saucer that spins ) when you try to lift your head its like the more I would be able to get out of my body the gravity would pull me back in I didn't succeed astral projecting but I felt I was almost there. weed is awesome again but I think I'm gonna stop again I may have to take a dt in about a month


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