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Offlinealittleanxious
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some questions on a bad trip
    #17357377 - 12/08/12 08:11 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Hi guys...I've been lurking this site for a while and figured it might be a good place to ask some questions and get things off my chest.

Not to long I started experimenting with psychedelics, mostly lsd and good old mushies, each probably more than 25 times.

I don't know if any of you have ever read something called Session Games: A manual for the use of LSD but I guess most of my trips could go under the "This one doesn't count" category. meaning I was usually just tripping to test what this and that would look or be like and really it was just a waste of brain cells

but anyways...

So one day I decided to mix the two for the 2nd time. the first time I mixed lsd and mushrooms was one hit and an eighth and I had the best experience of my life. I figured it would be the same for the 2nd time

So I get ten hits of LSD (I only ate one of them this night though) and an eighth of shrooms to munch, beginning to assume that mixing the two will be a frequent in devour.

NOW ENOUGH OF MY PAST

This is the night it all went wrong

I went to see the movie 'Prometheus" in 3D..and it was phenomenal. I was expecting to go see a shitty alien movie. but this was something else. I wish I remembered more about the details.

I was with a friend who said no to the lsd but he had an eighth of mushies. at the end of the movie we both agreed that there was way more to what we saw that met the eye. we wanted to tell people to watch it...it seemed so relevant to EVERYTHING

we were "winding down"  at his place watching TV and smoking weed trying to figure out what we just saw. I mean people say that it is a poorly written movie but he was on a whole different level than me but we both saw the "bigger picture" the movie was trying to portray.. I thought about eating more lsd and I thank whatever it was that told me not to

some quotes that stuck in my head
Big things have small beginnings.
How far would you go to get your answers?

and the big one(for whatever reason)

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

now while my friend was fully "unwound" seeing as he had only eaten mushrooms he was getting tired and wanted to go to bed.. I don't remember what happened next, but the next thing I knew I was out in the cold darkness, still pondering what I saw

One of the reasons I liked combining lsd and mushrooms the first time is because it seems to work so much better and longer on a small dose of each seems to get me somewhere that a high dose of either just cant...mind you one hit of this lsd and an eighth of these shrooms are pretty mind-blowing on their own

I hadn't felt like I had come down at all, and im standing there in the dark.. and next thing I know im in the hospital with stitches...I don't feel like filling in the details


I don't understand what happened I had never had a bad trip in my life and all of a sudden I lost control...

like someone pulled the rug right out from underneath me I went tumbling down

I thought I was going to die for whatever reason and it bothered me
it was the worst feeling...I AM GOING TO DIE NOW
thing is I didn't know why...everyone dies. I tried rationalizing and fighting my fear..
I thought of all the people who have died, everyone dies, even the people before their time. in wars..gangs..everywhere..
I couldnt understand why it was so hard to embrace it..i tried and tried ..

there was a physical pain through my body and I couldn't embrace it. I tried to embrace the pain it wouldn't leave

certain points faded in and out from here. I remember singing a lovely note,, and trying to hold it, (BAD FLASHBACK FROM THIS RIGHT NOW) because it felt right. it made the pain stop. then the high note turned into a blood curdling scream reverting into some form of guttural growl. then I screamed that I was the devil incarnate..
and I was back in hell..

there were numbers flying through my head and they all had meaning...huge numbers...I had all the fucking answers and they frightened me

I felt so weak.....I couldn't embrace it whatever it was

I still feel weak now
ever since then I feel weak and empty

its been about a half a year

I still occasionally take mushrooms, I honestly don't know if its safe to take lsd anymore..

I find that ever since then whenever I do psychedelics it is a lot more meaningful, and rewarding, but it is also very sinister at times...its like the mushrooms are with me instead of in my system. I don't know how to describe it

I don't really know why I wrote this or what my questions was maybe I shouldn't of bogged a dob while I wrote it :bigjoint:

I felt like I should put this here maybe ill figure out where im going with this at a later date...could be like a little brainstorm with myself on the internet..tryin to figure out what the fuck went wrong...


anyways thanks to anyone who read this trash if you can relate to any of this or have any advice on how to get back on the horse id love it


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: alittleanxious]
    #17357520 - 12/08/12 08:37 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like ego death to me and maybe next time u should sit the F down!

Can't say much without going into the freak out u had :shrug:


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: alittleanxious]
    #17357535 - 12/08/12 08:40 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Treat these very powerful psychedelics with lots of respect, because they aren't normal drugs. Set and setting are very important. Tripping shouldn't be a regular thing that you do all the time. If you don't integrate the experience and try to learn from it and make sense of some things, then you'll likely just keep being confused and fall downward. I suggest not taking any more psychedelics, or any drugs for that matter, and focus on integrating the trip(s) you've had to try to learn something about yourself. That's where bad trips come from. Your mindset (you) and your setting.


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: shroom_sandwich]
    #17357658 - 12/08/12 09:03 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like you just took too much and flipped out.  No reason to mix both IMO but I know a lot of people like to

I was pretty disappointed by Prometheus.  I'm a big fan of Alien and Aliens and it just seemed like a let down.


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: shroom_sandwich]
    #17357705 - 12/08/12 09:10 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds heavy man, sometimes you get a bad trip that can really knock your confidence for a six.

Just chill, get on with your life...let it pass. I know it's been half a year but psychedelics will wait for you, you can always come back when you feel ready again.

I know what you mean by the mushroom thing, I love shrooms and I will always love them but compared to LSD they have a very personal quality. I had a bad trip on a heroic dose of shrooms where I could feel mushroom spores spreading over my system and controlling me, they were yelling at me but it didn't sound like a voice, it sounded like an angry beehive making human speech noises and the sound itself made me panic like an insect caught in a web, I felt like humans and the universe were tiny parts of the giant mushroom macrocosm that controlled everything in & beyond the universe and that they could do anything with our reality they wanted. For a while after that I would get small 'flashbacks' and would be reminded by this evil mushroom that it was still in control of me...they passed eventually but at the time it was confusing working out whether that flashback sensation was just a flashback or was a reminder from the mushroom that it was still there.


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: PeanutButter]
    #17357867 - 12/08/12 09:44 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

If I ever feel a bad trip coming on I'm just going to roll up in a blanket and lock myself away from the outside world for however many centuries it takes.


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: PeanutButter]
    #17357902 - 12/08/12 09:52 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

You probably should have gone WAY further into detail with your trip report. Like as much detail as you possibly could. I don't know how you could even function in a movie theatre, or leaving there. I think you should give acid another try. It's like one of the best drugs in existence. You should expirament with it as much as you can while it's still available. Most "acid" these days is actually an nBOMe.

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PeanutButter said:
Sounds heavy man, sometimes you get a bad trip that can really knock your confidence for a six.

Just chill, get on with your life...let it pass. I know it's been half a year but psychedelics will wait for you, you can always come back when you feel ready again.

I know what you mean by the mushroom thing, I love shrooms and I will always love them but compared to LSD they have a very personal quality. I had a bad trip on a heroic dose of shrooms where I could feel mushroom spores spreading over my system and controlling me, they were yelling at me but it didn't sound like a voice, it sounded like an angry beehive making human speech noises and the sound itself made me panic like an insect caught in a web, I felt like humans and the universe were tiny parts of the giant mushroom macrocosm that controlled everything in & beyond the universe and that they could do anything with our reality they wanted. For a while after that I would get small 'flashbacks' and would be reminded by this evil mushroom that it was still in control of me...they passed eventually but at the time it was confusing working out whether that flashback sensation was just a flashback or was a reminder from the mushroom that it was still there.




I've had the same feeling on acid, where I felt that the acid was attacking my well-being from the inside out. I visualized it as a black tar-like matter melting my brain.


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: alittleanxious]
    #17357911 - 12/08/12 09:53 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Prometheus for me was a disappointing movie. They missed the whole point and made the Aliens skinhead nutters that make killer plagues on backwater planets for shits and giggles.

You should listen to Krishnamurti or Alan Watts next time, I've been listening to these guys for over a decade and they still blow me away and I've never been off my nut either.


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Re: some questions on a bad trip [Re: The_Tao]
    #17358331 - 12/08/12 11:29 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

maybe ill edit it a bit more some other time..its kinda not the most fun thing to dwell on for long periods ya know

im learning to treat psychedelics with alot more respect now...before it was all fun and games, and now it seems alot more real, alot more like an experience, from the few times ive done shrooms since then, it has been much more of a ride, and i feel humbled for the next little while

the movie theater wasnt that bad we dosed before we got in there but lewaving we must of looked like a couple of mad hatters lol

i remember trying to open a door that wasnt there... :tongue2: then my less high friend guided me out...

thing is i wish i coulda curled up but honestly it started once i got outside...i guess a little before that but i bottled it up while inside my friends place.

that mushroom macroverse or whatever sounds sick lol but the spore part sounds fuckin scary....there was pain going through my body that sounded kinda like what you described

anyways thanks for the replies im really in no state of mind to talk without rambling around my point :bigjoint:


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