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Ibogaine: dosing advice
    #16853578 - 09/15/12 09:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

For many years I have had been very curious about ibogaine but the dosing is all over the map, and often reported in terms of the various pure salts resulting from chemical extraction. Translating that to root bark (which is what i was looking at) should be possible but the estimates I have seen range from 1 to 6 % which is quite the spread, esp given that this stuff in higher doses can lead to trips lasting 2 days. Not what I'm after--want a dose that will last 8-12 hours and provide the unusual visuals the drug is famous for.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: curiousblue]
    #16853609 - 09/15/12 09:15 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i cant help you but im also interested in this


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: psyconaught]
    #16853678 - 09/15/12 09:33 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #16854199 - 09/15/12 11:53 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I think he dosing is individualized. Meaning whoever is conducting the ceremony would give you a test dose to see how you react and the adjust accordingly and give you several flood doses. But indont know much at all as this is one psychedelic I haven't planned on attempting in the forseeable future.  :shrug:  as far as I know its mainly used to treat addiction


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: Kief Ledger]
    #16854766 - 09/16/12 05:24 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

i think tribes wasnt using it for treat addiction so its much more...


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: mushmare]
    #16854893 - 09/16/12 06:51 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Dowager info is a no no. Especially on a chemical such as this. Deaths are not uncommon. Research yourself. Everyone is different.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: highc]
    #16855171 - 09/16/12 09:04 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

high c: Thanks and I obviously have done some research--just looking for an estimate of proper powder dosing for level 3. I have come across stories of a few isolated deaths, possibly a result of the high dosing used for addiction Rx. Haven't seen an LD50 or comparable stat. Would be interested in knowing more if anyoe has data.

But I appreciate the input, and agree that while its use here has been in addiction treatment, it obviously has a much longer history than this.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: curiousblue]
    #17203701 - 11/11/12 09:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i can help you.

the first thing i would say is don't do ibogaine.

i have experienced two flood doses of ibogaine on two seperate occasions and it isn't an "enjoyable" experience to say the least.

if you feel like you are still up for it and want it to Kick your ass, i can answer a lot of your questions on this subject.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: organization]
    #17206834 - 11/12/12 12:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

2-3 grams of pure Iboga would produce effects you are looking for I pretty sure

honestly everyone reacts differently, I would start with 1 gram of root bark or whatever the equivalent is of ibogaine.

Iboga is such a wonderful plant, do try it. My top favorite psychedelics are mushrooms, ayahuasca and Iboga.

Check out http://eboka.info/index.php
good info there about dosage

Be careful with Iboga, it's not recreational at all but it can be very enjoyable :teleport:


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: clemens]
    #17206887 - 11/12/12 12:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

1 gram of root bark won't do anything at all.  in fact neither will 10 grams.  if you want a flood dose you will need to injest 20-30 grams of iboga root bark.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: clemens]
    #17206912 - 11/12/12 12:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

"2-3 grams of pure Iboga would produce effects you are looking for I pretty sure"

are you serious.  your advising a lethal dose.  do you realize this?
3 grams of ibogaine hcl is a VERY high dose, especially for an initiation.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: organization]
    #17208098 - 11/12/12 03:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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organization said:
"2-3 grams of pure Iboga would produce effects you are looking for I pretty sure"

are you serious.  your advising a lethal dose.  do you realize this?
3 grams of ibogaine hcl is a VERY high dose, especially for an initiation.





i said 2-3 grams of pure IBOGA root bark

I have never taken ibogaine but I have taken root bark and TA. 1 gram of root bark can produce above threshold effects, i would even say 1 gram is a bit of a trip. 2-3 grams is what I think the OP is looking for because the OP said they didn't want anything that lasted more then 12 hours. 3 grams might carry on a little longer then 12hrs

again im talking about iboga, not ibogaine. I believe 1 gram of iboga root bark contains 4-6% ibogaine so start off with maybe 50mgs ibogaine?

This is of course if you are not looking to take a flood dose, I took a flood dose of iboga TA (equivalent to 25 grams of root bark)and I wouldn't recommend doing that until you have taken at least 5 grams of root bark.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: clemens]
    #17208183 - 11/12/12 03:58 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

ok sorry for the confusion.  i just want to help people who are interested in ibogaine begin to understand how powerful it is.  and i would definitely advise never taking ibogaine alone.

yes there is a huge difference between a flood-dose of iboga vs a non-flood dose (a booster).

a flood dose of iboga root bark can vary but usually ranges from 15-30 grams.
a flood dose of hcl can vary depending on the individual but should never exceed 3 grams.

like i said before, iboga is no joke and can be deadly if not dosed properly.  it is important to meet people who are involved with this plant medicine if you are interested in experiencing the grandfather of all plant medicine that is iboga.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: organization]
    #17299099 - 11/28/12 06:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

thank you for this thread - most useful.

I would probably go for root bark, but quantity and frequently reported purging make me want to look in the direction of TA - same alkaloid content minus the fiber, no?

the issue here is, of course, the dose.

I am not after a flood and I do not need to deal with the addiction situation here, thankfully, but I am very interested in the visuals AND, even more importantly, the introspection part of the trip. the advice seems to be to go for about 10mg/kg of pure ibogane, which if translated to TA would mean between 30 and 50mg per kg of my weight. Given my weight of 80kg I come to about 2.4 to 4g of TA ... seems to be way too high. Alternative suggestion was 2g of TA.

Whom do I trust? Or is there a way to determine an optimal dose here?

thank you in advance


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: TVscreenMakesYou]
    #17299904 - 11/28/12 08:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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TVscreenMakesYou said:
thank you for this thread - most useful.

I would probably go for root bark, but quantity and frequently reported purging make me want to look in the direction of TA - same alkaloid content minus the fiber, no?

the issue here is, of course, the dose.

I am not after a flood and I do not need to deal with the addiction situation here, thankfully, but I am very interested in the visuals AND, even more importantly, the introspection part of the trip. the advice seems to be to go for about 10mg/kg of pure ibogane, which if translated to TA would mean between 30 and 50mg per kg of my weight. Given my weight of 80kg I come to about 2.4 to 4g of TA ... seems to be way too high. Alternative suggestion was 2g of TA.

Whom do I trust? Or is there a way to determine an optimal dose here?

thank you in advance



they have clinics in canada that use iboagaine treatment for addiction. you could contact them and ask what they usually give as a dose


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: psyconaught]
    #17314867 - 12/01/12 01:41 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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TVscreenMakesYou said:
thank you for this thread - most useful.

I would probably go for root bark, but quantity and frequently reported purging make me want to look in the direction of TA - same alkaloid content minus the fiber, no?

the issue here is, of course, the dose.

I am not after a flood and I do not need to deal with the addiction situation here, thankfully, but I am very interested in the visuals AND, even more importantly, the introspection part of the trip. the advice seems to be to go for about 10mg/kg of pure ibogane, which if translated to TA would mean between 30 and 50mg per kg of my weight. Given my weight of 80kg I come to about 2.4 to 4g of TA ... seems to be way too high. Alternative suggestion was 2g of TA.

Whom do I trust? Or is there a way to determine an optimal dose here?

thank you in advance



they have clinics in canada that use iboagaine treatment for addiction. you could contact them and ask what they usually give as a dose




after some more research here are the findings:
- for addiction - 10mg to 30mg/kg of ibogaine HCL ... TA and bark need to be recalculated
- for self-discovery - 5mg - 8mg/kg

Does anyone here have a view or experience of either ibogaworld and cerberusextract? They seem to be the only vendors offering iboga TA and before ordering (given how expensive it is) I wanted to check who is better ... or if I missed anyone of repute in my research.

thank you!


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: TVscreenMakesYou]
    #17380926 - 12/12/12 04:15 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I want to give an anonymous thanks to my provider. If I would have tried to take it alone, or with a friend, I would have put myself in a situation in which I very well could have died, and I would still be a drug addict. It was administered over many hours, in an amount that I could have never guessed, and has never been shared online. There is no X-mg per Y-kg body weight. It is based on observable tolerance learned through experience. Trying to save money by doing it solo will only short yourself. If you can not afford it, then work harder and save.

I would also like to thank my provider for cleaning up my vomit, staying up for days, adjusting my dose based on observable tolerance, making sure I had enough water, and helping me walk to to toilet. Thanks for preparing all my food and cleaning up after me. And also... thanks for staying with me while I was in a very fearful state for many days after taking the Ibo. Thanks for staying with me when I cried, and I was in emotional agony. Without my provider, I would have failed. It was 52 hours before I could walk, and then only barely. I am very thankful to Ibo, but without my provider, it would have been a disaster. The positive stories you hear about Ibo come from people who took it with a pro.

The only successful treatments are those taken with a professional. It was less than $3000 for everything, but it gave me a new life. It was worth it. You can do whatever you like, but I have to warn you that this is life and death, and far more complicated than you know.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: Ibogaine]
    #17381065 - 12/12/12 04:42 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

glad to hear it and thanks for sharing. Now never come back here because reading about drugs in various capacities cannot be good for staying clean.


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Re: Ibogaine: dosing advice [Re: TVscreenMakesYou]
    #26709472 - 05/31/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hey brother. Getting root bark, need doasge advice please. 4 boys. Full time job. Could maybe afford 2 days maximum off. I don't know if I need a flood but coming off suboxone 1mg. Rotate from pills norcos and percs to kratom.

I have a Gram scale.


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