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Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll
    #15297589 - 10/29/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Was wanting to get some input from people experienced in the art of mushroom cultivation. If you choose other please list what you are using/referring to.  Thanks
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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15297664 - 10/29/11 10:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Good idea for a poll.  Perhaps people could elaborate in posts as to the composition of their sub.  My friend uses-  Coir/hpoo/worm poo/composted straw/gypsum/coffee soak and grinds with no particular ratios used.  As with our bodies, I think variety is key.


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: lawjes]
    #15297889 - 10/30/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

my fav. is a straw/horse poo mix.  or maybe horse poo/verm bc i dont have to mess with the straw


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: IamYou]
    #15297979 - 10/30/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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my fav. is a straw/horse poo mix.  or maybe horse poo/verm bc i dont have to mess with the straw



So you would rather handle the poo than the straw:crazy:?? wow straw must be real bitch to handle? Were do you guys get the horse poo? and does it smell up the room your FC is in in?


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15298087 - 10/30/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I dont know which is my favorite cuz I havn't really perfected the conditions under which each is grown ya know? but I hear the best substrates are the ones with a mix of everything.


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: IamYou]
    #15298120 - 10/30/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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my fav. is a straw/horse poo mix.  or maybe horse poo/verm bc i dont have to mess with the straw



So you would rather handle the poo than the straw:crazy:?? wow straw must be real bitch to handle? Were do you guys get the horse poo? and does it smell up the room your FC is in in?



Field aged hpoo smells like nothing or dirt. If it smells like shit its not aged and still have ammonia in it. I personally enjoy a mix of coir and hpoo for a nice consistency, 50/50 then buffed with 5% vermi 3-5% gypsum. Have not tried straw yet but from what I have been told its a PITA compared to hpoo and coir. Very contam prone.


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #15298138 - 10/30/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Field aged hpoo smells like nothing or dirt. If it smells like shit its not aged and still have ammonia in it. I personally enjoy a mix of coir and hpoo for a nice consistency, 50/50 then buffed with 5% vermi 3-5% gypsum. Have not tried straw yet but from what I have been told its a PITA compared to hpoo and coir. Very contam prone.




Hmm. Im starting to rethink my setup. I have a co-op right down the road so I imagine i could get the poo easily? what would one ask for? And may I ask how you pasteurize it or prepare that mixture you use. I know how to pasteurize straw, is it similar? Thanks for the input...much appreciated.


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15298144 - 10/30/11 02:37 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15298151 - 10/30/11 02:43 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Coir seems kinda expensive vs the $5 bales of straw I have.  Damn I cant make up my mind. I think I want to go with both. I have a tek bookmarked that uses coir/hpoo as a casing to Straw?? how would you feel about that  PinsWellWithOthers? would that cut down on contams..... sound like you've got some experience under your belt  :vibin:


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: iamu]
    #15298162 - 10/30/11 02:48 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Ask to go walk threw the field with a baggy. I personally use a laundry sack its netted and allows air circulation and you can hang it up incase any of it still is a little wet from rain(dont get anything that still smells like shit unless you plan to hang it to finish aging in a laundry sack for a month). Pick up all the nuggets that are old as...shit. Don't get the stuff from the stalls with all the bedding, the sawdust/woodchips will rob your poo of nitrogen. You can pasteurize with a large counter top roaster.

I do basically what Pinhead does here:
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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15298169 - 10/30/11 02:57 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Coir seems kinda expensive vs the $5 bales of straw I have.  Damn I cant make up my mind. I think I want to go with both. I have a tek bookmarked that uses coir/hpoo as a casing to Straw?? how would you feel about that  PinsWellWithOthers? would that cut down on contams..... sound like you've got some experience under your belt  :vibin:



Casings go on top and are non-nutritious to prevent colonization and overlay. They help hold in moisture and humidity to the sub. You can expand your coir 50/50 w/ hpoo and most people will let you have all the poo you need for free. Or you can do straight poo but its a more chunky with out the coir. Both work just fine its all a matter of what is available to you. The straw I never messed around with so idk.


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #15299518 - 10/30/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't want to vote because I've just now started getting my hands dirty with bulk substrates (literally *ba-dum-tish*) but I'm using cow manure compost mixed with coir and it seems to have colonize quite quickly (about 5 days). Just starting to get my first pins, so we will see how it all turns out.


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: carnage11]
    #15304044 - 10/31/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Strange, Coir appears to be the favorite. I thought price would be factored in a little more, like the fact you can get poo for free a lot of times, and straw is only $5 a bale.  Maybe Im missing something?? Coir must be some good shit.:mushroom2:


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15305357 - 10/31/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Coir is just easier to work with because you can use the bucket tek. With manure and straw you have to do a proper pasteurization.


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15305404 - 10/31/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Christ people, is everyone underage here?  Why on earth do people keep talking about 'poo' as if they were still shitting their diapers?  If you're growing plants or mushrooms, please. . .the word is manure.

This isn't my first rant about it, but it's getting really old.  In speaking with your adult co-workers would you refer to rail transport as a choo-choo train?

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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #15305523 - 10/31/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: jim617]
    #15305725 - 10/31/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

AND: Vermiculite, Gypsum, Coir, Toilet Paper

@RR:
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In speaking with your adult co-workers would you refer to rail transport as a choo-choo train?




"Nomenclature: Trains are called by their given names exclusively, although they may not answer.  In countries where the trains run on time (fascist dictatorships mostly but hard to find anymore) trains may be called by their time of arrival ("Look it's the 3:05!").  Exercise caution if banding wild trains, anything smaller than standard guage has likely bred with cable-cars and the like, and may be agressive."  (source www.trainspottingandnaming.org )

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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #15306308 - 10/31/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Christ people, is everyone underage here?  Why on earth do people keep talking about 'poo' as if they were still shitting their diapers?  If you're growing plants or mushrooms, please. . .the word is manure.

This isn't my first rant about it, but it's getting really old.  In speaking with your adult co-workers would you refer to rail transport as a choo-choo train?

end of rant.
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Im sorry but Ive got to keep it real here.  Sure the proper word is Manure, sure it might sound a little more professional. But nomenclature is relevant to the culture, and english isn't set in stone, it develops along side the culture. Thats how slang words get added to the dictionary every year. Im in a professional science and we refer to items by scientific names, but this forum, this culture, I would never expect to "go by the proper rules"....my rant...no disrespect RogerRabbit I know you are a Mycologist (I think) but this isn't the "Scientific Community" and one of my pet peeves is when people try to "confine the english language to its proper usage"......Damn thats a lot of "Quotes"

No hate here RogeRabbit, those are some Damn good videos that I myself purchased and learned a hell of a lot from, but like I said, I must "keeps it real"


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Big_Sexy]
    #15306326 - 10/31/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

miracle gro moisture control FTW


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Re: Whats your favorite Bulk Substrate? Poll [Re: Optx]
    #15306413 - 10/31/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

has anybody had any experience with bagged fertilizers, like cow manure???? Would that be good to mix with straw?? PINSWelllWithOthers likes to collect his poo the old fashioned way?! Nothing against that, but I would rather not go there??


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