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Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance?
    #12991709 - 08/02/10 04:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Do Psilocybin Shooms and Fly Agaric Shooms have a Cross-tolerance?  If so, how long should one space these experiences apart?

Looks like Psi uses the serotonin receptors and Muscaria react on the GABA.

Also, could/should one use/avoid an MAOi with Fly Agarics?

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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: Psily_Devil]
    #12991952 - 08/02/10 05:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'd put my money on there being none, got no sources to back this up atm, but they are completely different drugs apart from the fact they are both found in mushrooms.

I also wouldn't mix with a MAOI. From what I've read - musc can get bad at high doses and if it is affected by a MAOI, you could be in a bad position. If it's not affected by a MAOI there would be no point in taking the MAOI in the first place.


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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: Psily_Devil]
    #12991983 - 08/02/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I would not mix muscimol (compound in fly agaric) with an MAOI, I have never hear dof anyone doing that and it may cause some kind of possibly fatal interaction.

Also no they would not cross-tolerate

Muscimol is a deleriant and would be nothing like shrooms

I have tried deleriants and they are probably one of the craziest most terrible highs ever by themselves (atleast dipenhydramine was)

Anyways you can take and MAOI with shrooms to strengthen the trip

But i would not suggest it with fly agaric

Why are you wanting to use the fly agaric anyways?


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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: PsychedelicWizard]
    #12992050 - 08/02/10 05:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Ok.  Nix the MAOi.  But Caffeine, THC, and/or JWH-"incense" is probably okay, right?

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Muscimol is a deleriant and would be nothing like shrooms
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Why are you wanting to use the fly agaric anyways?




I understand that Fly is going to be completely different from anything else i am familiar with.

I want to use Fly bc of the powerful ethenogenic experience (the Loop, the Void).  Seeing cool shit is not my motivation, only a cool side effect.


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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: Psily_Devil]
    #12994072 - 08/03/10 12:56 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yeah all the other things are fine

Also if you want entheogenic then why not ayahuasca or DMT smoked

But hey man more power to ya if you decide to go with fly agaric

Tell me how it goes and maybe ill try it


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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: PsychedelicWizard]
    #12994640 - 08/03/10 06:36 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I will be trying it real soon.  I got 15g and I am probably gonna do this one solo.

>>>Is there a tolerance period?  If so, how long?
I don't want to take it all at once, and I only have a little over a week before I move.
I would like to use them before then.


As far as DmT, its hard a hard to find substance.  Its easy to find the plants, just very involved as far as synthesis.

I'll post my experience, when experience is had.


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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: Psily_Devil]
    #12994808 - 08/03/10 08:13 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Bake or simmer at 175-190 degrees Fahrenheit before consuming.

And taking more than 3G of Fly Agaric is bad, that's what I heard.


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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: StingRei]
    #12995249 - 08/03/10 10:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Umm about DMT synthesis

It isn't very hard just read alot about it before you do it

I managed to pull it off when I was 16 with a good friend of mine

And we are still good friends and we still make it to this day

STB tek works great and is easy as balls


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Re: Psilocybin/Fly Agaric Cross Tolerance? [Re: PsychedelicWizard]
    #13000690 - 08/04/10 09:55 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like 5g is low dose, 10 is high.  I might shoot for 7g and still have half left.

Still trying to research Fly, but I can't find a lot of answers.  Some reports allude to reverse tolerance (if one takes agaric a few days in succession) but I cant find proof.

As far as Dmt, I have located a few plant sources around my area.  It just involves mild tresspassing, and some kitchen chemistry.  I moving to college in about a week and a half, so that's probably not going to happen.


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