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Coheed88
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Veil broke.. what now?
#11917592 - 01/28/10 01:01 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Hey so my cubes veils have started to break. Im told to pick them when this happens. However, in peoples sigs i see enormous mushrooms.. and i think that the shrooms are still guna grow, as they were tiny yesterday and now around 3-4 inches high. Do i pick them now, or do i leave them to grow, and if i leave them, is there any risk?
If i pick them, how long can i refrigerate them until they are no good, because i have about 10 mushrooms growing at the moment, but i dont want to make a tea out of 10. And if i get more next week, im going to have to drink a shitload of liquid. Any suggestions.
Thanks.
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: Coheed88]
#11917616 - 01/28/10 01:05 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Only risk is them dropping black spores all over, and it's messy... also, all the goodies are in there now, so them growing bigger is just added water.
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: Coheed88]
#11917622 - 01/28/10 01:07 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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you can pick now if you want if you let them get bigger they just put on water weight it wont increase the amount of actives in the mushroom no risk involved but if left too long the will drop spores everywhere
if you want to print them let the caps flatten out before you pick
if stored in a paper bag they could last 3-4 days possibly longer if stored in the fridge
damn did i say if enough times
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: Coheed88]
#11917651 - 01/28/10 01:11 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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you don't need to pick them now. sometimes the veil tears prematurely and sometimes strains wont have a veil at all.
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Coheed88
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Whats the bad thing about spores dropping everywhere?
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: Coheed88]
#11917667 - 01/28/10 01:13 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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its just messy
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They will never get any more potent than they are once the veil breaks. The only reason to leave them longer is for printing.
If you're gonna' store them in the fridge, do so in something 'breathable' like a paper bag and they should be good for about 5 or so days. I wouldn't let them go any longer than that.
Keep in mind that cubensis loose potency after long periods of being exposed to air/oxygen. With that being said, you're better off dehydrating and storing them in air tight zip-locs, containers, etc.
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: nexus1946]
#11917741 - 01/28/10 01:22 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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nexus1946 said: you're better off dehydrating and storing them in air tight zip-locs, containers, etc.
Just tmake sure they are CRACKER dry before sealing them up. Any excess moisture in there would be bad.
But, enjoy the freshies while you have them!!
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Coheed88
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How do i dry them without exposure to air? desiccant?
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: Coheed88]
#11917873 - 01/28/10 01:40 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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simple cheap way to dry mush in four to six hours with absolutly no heat
ok ive been lookin at the drying methods on here and would like to ad to the collection
what do i need? 1 box fan 2 bungie cords 3 square air filters (the ones with ridges) 4 some wet mush
step 1 put mush along ridges of filters step 2 stack filter on top of fan ( leaving no mush uncontained by filters) step 3 bungie filters onto fan step 4 set fan upright and plug in turn on after 4 to 6 hours completly dry mush enjoy owe idea to mr alton brown of the food network
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didnt he make jerky like that?
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yah hahaha lol
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: nexus1946]
#11918531 - 01/28/10 03:15 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Coheed88 said: How do i dry them without exposure to air? desiccant?
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nexus1946 said: Keep in mind that cubensis loose potency after long periods of being exposed to air/oxygen.
They will not lose any potency while being dehydrated as long as it's quick. If you let them sit out to dry for days on end then yeah, the actives will dissipate.
Dehydrators dry the shrooms within hours and the heat being emitted isn't hi enough to reduce the actives.
This it what I use:

It works great and gets them cracker dry in hours. No potency loss.
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: nexus1946]
#11918854 - 01/28/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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you would have to leave your mushrooms out for months or even years to notice any loss in potency. not days. i dry all of my fruits in front of fans and it takes a week at least. doesn't affect anything.
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: prismism]
#11918935 - 01/28/10 04:06 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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same here big or small my fan works great!
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: feelfunny]
#11919010 - 01/28/10 04:16 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Does drying out with a fan, make them loose potency also FF...?????I usually dry out for a day or half a day...under fan, they get cracker dry....
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feelfunny
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not that my friends or i have ever notaced. thats about how long it takes me.
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prismism



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Quote:
ChaostoOrder said: Does drying out with a fan, make them loose potency also FF...?????I usually dry out for a day or half a day...under fan, they get cracker dry....
i would suspect that your fruits came from pf cakes. the smaller sized fruits can get pretty dry in a couple days. but those biggins' that you get out of monotubs can take about a week depending on the humidity in your area. the only way to reduce this time is by cutting the fruit in half or slicing it open. but i don't spend the time to gut each and every fruit.
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: prismism]
#11919089 - 01/28/10 04:25 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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I usually harvest from bulk spawn....so big fruits....big ones sometimes if put in a bag .,, tend to rehydrate, so I have to fan again....
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Re: Veil broke.. what now? [Re: feelfunny]
#11919128 - 01/28/10 04:29 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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feelfunny said: same here big or small my fan works great!
i swear everyone other person in the world has both of those fans.
I have both of them, my mom has both of them, my friends have both of them, i see them on tv, i see them on the internet, i see them when peeking through my neighbors windows, i see...er maybe I've said too much.
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