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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7333506 - 08/25/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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My dad has had huskies and they are killers..

with pitbulls, they were bred to fight.




are you saying it's genetic?

dogs are bred for certain genes which will develop certain traits but agression
isnt genetic, fighting is instinct as well as training




honestly i dont know, i think being short tempered could be genetic.. i really dont know, but i know what you're saying, the dog is its owner.


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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Banez]
    #7334429 - 08/25/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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I wasnt comparing the two sports, i was demonstrating how dogs were bred for specific purposes... i dont see how you saw me comparing them as sports.

another example are bordie collies and sheepdogs that were breed to help herd cattle and livestock.




Lol breeding animals to fight to the death. You say you're a great dog handler.. well I would expect a more educated opinion from a good dog handler. You're quasi-defending a "sport" where people train dogs to be vicious killing fighters, and then they PUT THEM IN THE SAME AREA AND PROVOKE THEM TO FIGHT TO THE DEATH. Training dogs to race and pull a fucking sled are one thing. Training them to be thrown in to fight to the death is fucking lame. I mean what the fuck? Theres a fucking difference in treating dogs right and using them for useful harmless tasks, and manipulating them to fight to the death for a quick buck.
Theres a fucking difference between what some individuals do to a dog after it loses a race, and what actually HAPPENS in the fucking sport they participate in. Not all people just drop their race dogs. But what 99%+ dogfighting dogs die from either the sport or directly afterwards.

I mean what the fuck do you think is so nice or decent about dogfighting? Nothing I can think of. Maybe you can educate me :stonedjerk:

Pulling sleds = transportation!

Dogfighting = Fights to the death!

^ What the fuck else can be said. I guess if you don't get it you never will :rolleyes:

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: StreetFreak]
    #7334442 - 08/25/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Do you think that exploiting a dogs natural defense reactions by throwing them into a pit to fight to death is right? Thats animal life being selfishly taken by humans... FOR MONEY! WOOOOOOOO :rolleyes:

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Jadian]
    #7334797 - 08/25/07 11:13 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Huskies love to pull sleds actually.




is huskies pulling sleds a sport or just a way of transportation to the seal cubs and polar bears?

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: shitfacedme]
    #7334812 - 08/25/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

It's actually not even real, but that's not the point.

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: moosehead]
    #7334854 - 08/25/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i'm sure theres one kind of dog we all hate...police dogs,theyre trained to bite people like you and me know matter how much you might love them

a flu epidemic has hit the racing industry as this thread happened...:lol:

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: shitfacedme]
    #7334867 - 08/25/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Huskies love to pull sleds actually.




is huskies pulling sleds a sport or just a way of transportation to the seal cubs and polar bears?




Both.  Where I'm at mostly just a sport or hobby of sorts, but some people in Alaska certainly still use them for transportation if their snow machine's break down or something.

Although modern top competition sled dogs aren't even usually huskies anymore :shrug:


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Re: Dogfighting [Re: shitfacedme]
    #7334869 - 08/25/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i would kill a dog if it bit me.

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: moosehead]
    #7334893 - 08/25/07 11:39 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i don't know...penicillin is pretty good still

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Banez]
    #7334929 - 08/25/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

(Banez, this isn't aimed at you. Your post was just the first.)

What is comes down to is that dog fighting is reprehensible. Anyone who breeds dogs to fight is a fucking scumbag; as is anyone who thinks dogfighting isn't a big deal.

As to those of you who say theres no difference between people fighting and dogs fighting: you're fucking morons. Dogs can not grant consent. The do what they are taught from birth, and if that is to kill other dogs, that is what they'll do.

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Redstorm]
    #7335014 - 08/26/07 12:29 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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(Banez, this isn't aimed at you. Your post was just the first.)

What is comes down to is that dog fighting is reprehensible. Anyone who breeds dogs to fight is a fucking scumbag; as is anyone who thinks dogfighting isn't a big deal.

As to those of you who say theres no difference between people fighting and dogs fighting: you're fucking morons. Dogs can not grant consent. The do what they are taught from birth, and if that is to kill other dogs, that is what they'll do.




QFT :thumbup:

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Redstorm]
    #7335112 - 08/26/07 01:21 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

like i said,I know a dog...

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: StreetFreak]
    #7335170 - 08/26/07 01:48 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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I wasnt comparing the two sports, i was demonstrating how dogs were bred for specific purposes... i dont see how you saw me comparing them as sports.

another example are bordie collies and sheepdogs that were breed to help herd cattle and livestock.




Lol breeding animals to fight to the death. You say you're a great dog handler.. well I would expect a more educated opinion from a good dog handler. You're quasi-defending a "sport" where people train dogs to be vicious killing fighters, and then they PUT THEM IN THE SAME AREA AND PROVOKE THEM TO FIGHT TO THE DEATH. Training dogs to race and pull a fucking sled are one thing. Training them to be thrown in to fight to the death is fucking lame. I mean what the fuck? Theres a fucking difference in treating dogs right and using them for useful harmless tasks, and manipulating them to fight to the death for a quick buck.
Theres a fucking difference between what some individuals do to a dog after it loses a race, and what actually HAPPENS in the fucking sport they participate in. Not all people just drop their race dogs. But what 99%+ dogfighting dogs die from either the sport or directly afterwards.

I mean what the fuck do you think is so nice or decent about dogfighting? Nothing I can think of. Maybe you can educate me :stonedjerk:

Pulling sleds = transportation!

Dogfighting = Fights to the death!

^ What the fuck else can be said. I guess if you don't get it you never will :rolleyes:




damn i have to repeat myself every fucking page.. I DO NOT SUPPORT DOGFIGHTING, i wouldnt even attend a dog fight.

BUT, i dont believe in telling other people do, and if other people want to do it, then its their own problem of lack of morals.. it isnt any human beings job to tell another human being what to do. period. and as stated before, that is what is wrong with society... everyone wants to be big brother.


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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Banez]
    #7335202 - 08/26/07 02:07 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Banez said:damn i have to repeat myself every fucking page.. I DO NOT SUPPORT DOGFIGHTING, i wouldnt even attend a dog fight.

BUT, i dont believe in telling other people do, and if other people want to do it, then its their own problem of lack of morals.. it isnt any human beings job to tell another human being what to do. period. and as stated before, that is what is wrong with society... everyone wants to be big brother.




Sorry if I missed something.. I didn't read all of the shit ton of posts in this thread. I just got the impression you were defending it in a way from a few of your posts I read (devils advocate perhaps?). So if I'm mistaken then my bad, but a lot of the people got the same impression.. so maybe it was just a communication issue.

I agree about not telling other people what to do, but that doesn't change the fact that everything about the "sport" of dog fighting is severely fucked up! And nothing like other real sports for dogs.

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Re: Dogfighting [Re: StreetFreak]
    #7335205 - 08/26/07 02:09 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i was more just play devils advocate to draw out other peoples' opinions, and it worked.. i mean i read a lot of very very good agruments for both sides.


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Re: Dogfighting [Re: Banez]
    #7335528 - 08/26/07 07:19 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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BUT, i dont believe in telling other people do, and if other people want to do it, then its their own problem of lack of morals.. it isnt any human beings job to tell another human being what to do. period. and as stated before, that is what is wrong with society... everyone wants to be big brother.





Seriously, what's up with people telling others that things like murder and rape are wrong? It's not my job to spread my morals to others, right?

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