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yas champ
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wheat and vermiculite jars

#26233178 - 10/06/19 09:25 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

hi, did anyone ever try to make wheat jars and vermiculite? had there been any results?

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Re: wheat and vermiculite jars

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#26233269 - 10/06/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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hi, did anyone ever try to make wheat jars and vermiculite? had there been any results?

Like as an alternative to BRF? Yes I have done that and it will work.

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#26234591 - 10/07/19 02:23 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

it's for inoculate the mycelium of agaricus bisporus, I have already tested with wheat alone but it's really very long and wet so I thought to add vermiculite; and apparently it work for you, you boiled the wheat? and vermiculite did you soak it? before sterilization?

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#26235951 - 10/07/19 04:30 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Nah I just used wheat bran in place of BRF when I made cakes, but I'm sure if you made bran/sawdust bags that could work for the species you are wanting to grow.

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Re: wheat and vermiculite jars

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#26236010 - 10/07/19 05:01 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

compost your wheat first and then add verm to get the water content just right.

alternatively use some compost and add wheat to it..

agaricus is a secondary decomposer so previously composted substrates are best.

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#26236044 - 10/07/19 05:22 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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compost your wheat first and then add verm to get the water content just right.

alternatively use some compost and add wheat to it..

agaricus is a secondary decomposer so previously composted substrates are best.

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#26236904 - 10/08/19 03:40 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

to compost wheat? I've never done it, a little more presicion on the steps of composting wheat please :confus: , so i don't need to soak the vermiculite in the water?

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#26237249 - 10/08/19 08:44 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

well compost is usually composed of a nitrogen and a carbon. the wheat would be the carbon so you would need a nitrogen source like horse poo or similar.

I think the ratio should be something like 40% nitrogen to 60% carbon. but for hobby making, if it were me, i would make my compost like i do with kitchen scraps, add straw and turn it every other day or so until i have a nice black substrate.

pasteurize if your pile isnt big enough to heat the center to pasteurization temps and inoculate with Agaricus spawn.

BUT another way is to grow a primary composter on the straw first, such as oysters or shiitake. After the first mushroom has done its work the straw nutrients will be more available to a secondary like Agaricus. This is called species sequencing and is worth researching.

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#26239703 - 10/09/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

very interesting informations, thank you all for your helps

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