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Mad Season
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under 10% rh open air fruiting 4
#22105120 - 08/18/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I've noticed cron has done a bunch of open air work (No fruiting chamber) it really inspired me to try it out. If I didn't neglect them so much, and misted them more in my dry ass under 10% humidity climate I could have seen more. Also because they're bacterial as fuck and I thought well why the fuck not 

O/A total yield was just over 3 ounces dry from these 2 trays with 1 pint of spawn, and 2-3 qts of manure each. Cased with 50/50+. All the stems weren't hollow in open air.. they had a membrane down the middle.
This is proof that what's needed is max fae, as well as proper hydration through misting. Noobs shouldn't worry about humidity in a chamber made for max fae. They just have to keep the substrate glistening wet. Mist when it isn't glistening. No pooling water!!
They could have easily been misted twice as much(and seen a much better yield). My next attempts will be much better, and I will update this when they grow, but I still think this attempt was not too shabby.
Edited by Mad Season (03/08/17 04:49 PM)
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Mad Season]
#22105231 - 08/18/15 02:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nice stuff!
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: cronicr]
#22105450 - 08/18/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow properly ripped apart there eh?
do you think they were going "Shit, gonna dry out soon, gotta get them spores out quiiiiiiick!!"

nice work though
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: keeno]
#22105502 - 08/18/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: mustangbob3]
#22105578 - 08/18/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice observation man.
Did you take any data points? And if so what?
How many flushes o/a did you get? Did you dunk?
Did you try multiple cube variations? It looks like you did.
And final question, since the stems were solid, was singular mushroom mass increased due to that? I.e. a hollow stem 5" stem, 1" diameter would weigh 20-30g wet, while a solid stem would be 50-60g wet.
I feel like this could also be associated with potency, but I don't have anytime for experiments.
Awesome stuff man
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Mad Season
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: blojo02184]
#22106261 - 08/18/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All of it was MS, so it's really hard to say anything for certain. I just wanted to open air fruit them. Since I have no humidity, it was just to honestly see if they can even grow in very low humidity.
I just finished 1st flush as you can see will have to wait for other flushes.
As for mushroom mass, there's definitely a weight increase. Obviously it's variable, but a hollow mushroom that'd be 2-3 grams is 3-4 grams with the membrane. It's also really legit for cloning. You can just take a piece of the membrane.
Potency is great because 2 grams of the AA straight fucked me up.
Thanks everyone else.
@keeno, like I said, it was a neglect tek :P I was too lazy to check on them, and when I finally did it was spore time haha. I think it's cool to see the aa caps didn't crack at all. They just wrinkled up
Edited by Mad Season (08/18/15 11:20 AM)
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Mad Season]
#22106276 - 08/18/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: taGyo]
#22106325 - 08/18/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: kmetric]
#22106380 - 08/18/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: invitro]
#22106575 - 08/18/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sweet experiment
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Mad Season]
#22107245 - 08/18/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said:

proper boob shroom bottom right
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Mad Season
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: keeno] 1
#22108378 - 08/18/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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never looking at it the same. I can't wait to be able to update this further.
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Mad Season]
#22257448 - 09/18/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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holy shit dude! this is revolutionary!
if you can get these results in 10% rh it opens up a lot of possibilities.
like what about using a plant or moss?
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Mad Season
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Or that fae is actually so important that if anything people should be making chambers with more holes/fae than a sgfc instead of worrying about humidity . I make my monos with 8 holes instead the usual 6 tbh. Tho I'm doing a bunch more open air work soon. I wanna get it perfect gotta wait and see!
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Mad Season]
#22258596 - 09/18/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey Mad Season,
I like your results. Looks good. Like you, Cron's open air grows also peaked my interests. I'm glad, yet not surprised that you had great results. Cron gave us some solid advice when he said:
"The thing to remember(which is something i find misunderstood) is that the most important humidity you have is surface humidity, in other words it really doesn't matter if your fc has a rh of 40% or 99% as long as there is room for evaporation to take place the humidity that is important sits on the surface.
This is our goal with every fruiting chamber we use is surface humidity, with our monotubs we dial them in to achieve this, with our sgfc's we mist as needed to achieve this, with our gh's we (depending on your set up)use something like an ultrasonic humidifier as a timed mister to achieve this because once we have this we can focus on fae which is a great tool for everything your substrate wants for many reasons, the more the better
The reason we grow in a high humidity environment is simple, mushrooms have no skin and lose moisture to the environment very easily and if they lose more then is being pumped in they simply die. This is an easy fix just simply misting your fruits." 
Thanks for sharing your results. I'm a few months behind you. However, I did swab my agar plates from a paper print this week. Hopefully - after a few transfers I'lll have a clean culture and then I'll move on to grains with my new PC. I'll post my failures and success as this is my first grow.
Ciao
Edited by Trek222 (09/19/15 08:06 AM)
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Trek222]
#22258871 - 09/19/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd be curious to see some muda bottles done in open air. Given the minimal exposed area for fruiting, that seems like it would be ideal. Muda bottles and a pump sprayers sounds lovely.
About how often were you misting? I live in like 40% rH, but I feel like my casing will change colours within like 4hrs of exposure to open air even if heavily misted.
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Trek222]
#22259069 - 09/19/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Trek222 said: Hey Mad Season,
I like your results. Looks good.
Like you, Cron's open air grows also peaked my interests.
I'm glad, yet not surprised that you had great results. Cron gave us some solid advice when he said:
"The thing to remember(which is something i find misunderstood) is that the most important humidity you have is surface humidity, in other words it really doesn't matter if your fc has a rh of 40% or 99% as long as there is room for evaporation to take place the humidity that is important sits on the surface.
This is our goal with every fruiting chamber we use is surface humidity, with our monotubs we dial them in to achieve this, with our sgfc's we mist as needed to achieve this, with our gh's we (depending on your set up)use something like an ultrasonic humidifier as a timed mister to achieve this because once we have this we can focus on fae which is a great tool for everything your substrate wants for many reasons, the more the better
The reason we grow in a high humidity environment is simple, mushrooms have no skin and lose moisture to the environment very easily and if they lose more then is being pumped in they simply die. This is an easy fix just simply misting your fruits." 
Thanks for sharing your results.
Ciao
we must remember we use fruiting chambers for our benefit not the mushrooms
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Mad Season
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Machiavelliavore said: I'd be curious to see some muda bottles done in open air. Given the minimal exposed area for fruiting, that seems like it would be ideal. Muda bottles and a pump sprayers sounds lovely.
About how often were you misting? I live in like 40% rH, but I feel like my casing will change colours within like 4hrs of exposure to open air even if heavily misted.
I haven't even done any bottles yet . I will one day!
As for how often I was misting.. I started doing 2 times a day but.. these guys got neglected A LOT. I misted once a day later on. If even. Some days I forgot to mist.
Honestly these were EXTREMELY bacterial underneath, I just didn't want them in my grow room. So I decided to see if I can get anything from leaving them in open air in my basement. Next open air shit I'll be using clean trays, with clean spawn, and misted twice a day.
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: Mad Season]
#22259489 - 09/19/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Or that fae is actually so important that if anything people should be making chambers with more holes/fae than a sgfc instead of worrying about humidity . I make my monos with 8 holes instead the usual 6 tbh. Tho I'm doing a bunch more open air work soon. I wanna get it perfect gotta wait and see!
OAF, lol awesome! I'll link this thread next time I see a hygrometer in a fc 3 oz from trays with one pint of spawn while neglected if perfected this could be the next evolution in cultivation. I thought this to be the case seeing how big they grow in outdoor discarded sub piles, great to see someone experimenting with it. FAE!
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Edited by NDStepp84 (09/19/15 09:45 AM)
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Re: under 10% rh open air fruiting [Re: NDStepp84]
#22327664 - 10/03/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Has anyone else been getting success with this? I have a 6qt tub that's nearly ready that i think im going to try this with. Im going to somehow hook my humidifier up to it to prevent low RH so hopefully itll create some monsters
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