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Need HELP IDing
    #19512248 - 02/02/14 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat: Found in Cow Pasture in the Manure


Gills: Brownish blackish gills under
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.

Stem: Tan color, some wet and almost transparent like, hollow, thin


Cap: tan/goldish brown soft but breaks easy/tears, concave


Spore print color: blueish dark purple


Bruising: bruises dark blue/brown


Other information:








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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512268 - 02/02/14 05:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't see the blue bruising you mentioned.

Looks to be a coprinoid species, perhaps something in Coprinellus or Coprinopsis.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: MidnightCity]
    #19512283 - 02/02/14 05:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Are they active? Or should I just trash these?

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512289 - 02/02/14 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They are not Psychoactive.


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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Gravija]
    #19512312 - 02/02/14 05:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

can I get more information on what type these are? I'm very curious.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512334 - 02/02/14 05:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Byrain]
    #19512354 - 02/02/14 06:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

None of tbose look like the ones I have or were near it when I went picking. The only reason they seem flat is because of the narrow bag I put them in while collecting.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512380 - 02/02/14 06:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here are some more pictures, please help ID!


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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512405 - 02/02/14 06:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You already have one, a coprinoid mushroom (aka an inky cap) in the family Psathyrellaceae, likely Coprinellus sect. Setulosi (=Coprinus subsect. Setulosi).  If there is a name for it, the first place to look will be that key I linked you.  You could also consider Parasola (= Coprinus subsect. Glabri), see this key for that.

http://www.grzyby.pl/coprinus-site-Kees-Uljee/species/Coprinus.htm#B

See the key at the top for how to choose which key would help more.

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1. Pileus without veil, smooth or with setulae and/or setae; section Pseudocoprinus
2. Stipe glabrous; pileus glabrous or with scattered, microscopical, long, brown hairs.
3. Stipe and pileus glabrous; spores with eccentric germ pore; subsect. Glabri J. Lange
3. Stipe glabrous; pileus under microscope with scattered, long brown hairs (> 200 m); spores with central germ pore; subsect. Auricomi Sing. (only one species: C. auricomus)
2. Stipe and pileus with setulae and/or setae; subsect. Setulosi J. Lange




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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Byrain]
    #19512433 - 02/02/14 06:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So these are trash right? Just throw them out?

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512459 - 02/02/14 06:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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needhelpiding said:
So these are trash right? Just throw them out?





Are you trying to get high, or are you trying to discover new species of mushrooms?

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19512466 - 02/02/14 06:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just looking for the 'magic' ones.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512520 - 02/02/14 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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needhelpiding said:
I'm just looking for the 'magic' ones.





In that case, throw these away and look for Psilocybe cubensis and Copelandia cyanescens growing directly from cow manure.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19512542 - 02/02/14 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These were growing directly on cow manure. It rained pretty decent the last two days, and heavily this morning. When do you think the best time to go check again would be?

Oh, and I'm in central florida, Daytona area.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512544 - 02/02/14 06:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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needhelpiding said:
When do you think the best time to go check again would be?





Check different fields once per day until you find them.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19512568 - 02/02/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Will it be good to wait a few days until after the rain has soaked up into the manure/grass or should I start tomorrow and they should be already growing good? That was all the shrooms I found on that one pasture, nothing else had even started to grow on the (over 50) other manure build ups.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19512614 - 02/02/14 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So a few days after rain fall or what?

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512651 - 02/02/14 07:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Go out every day until you find them.  They are probably already out there right now.

I have been talking to some friends and I know that the mushroom season is good in your area right now.  Almost certainly your area is the best in the whole USA this week.  Half the USA is frozen and the other half is dry, leaving Florida as the only place to be if you want to find fungi.  I almost booked a flight there the other day.  Go get them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19512673 - 02/02/14 07:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've been looking for as many cow pastures I can (that are easily accessible without an owner coming out with a 12 gauge wondering what I'm doing sifting through his cow manure) but I hear they just grow in the grass here and in the forest so I'm hopefully going to try and find some good spots here. I'm in Daytona area, so East/Central Florida. I hope I find some in the next few days and have an enjoyable experience on them.

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Re: Need HELP IDing [Re: needhelpiding]
    #19512684 - 02/02/14 07:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The psilocybin mushrooms that grow in the grass are Panaeolus cinctulus and perhaps P. olivaceus.  They are not nearly as strong or common as the dung loving species, so most psilocybin mushroom hunters in Florida stick to cow pastures.  It would be a good idea to get permission to hunt on some nice cow farms.

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