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xaylon420
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goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! updated 5/14
#18043602 - 04/01/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Verm is in a box put up, didn't want to dig it out for the pic.
so instead of growing my gh which holds about 4 monotubs worth i'm scraping it with the idea of growing these 8 64qt monotubs plus the 3 i'm already growing. i have 13 mazatapec jars going about a week into it with MS. i wish i had cloned a cluster, but i was lazy and wanted to switch from GT to mazatapecs anyhow. My first bulk was mazatapecs and i ended up with 3.5lbs dry off of 14 trays that consisted of 5 blocks of coir 10 qts of verm and one badass Walkin greenhouse that i had at the time. I felt maza's were more visual than the gt so i'm going back to them.

i intend to take the 3 fastest growing and g2g 30 more jars so i'll have a total of 40 for my 8 tubs.
i'm going to do all 8 tubs like below except i'm going to measure out the holes much better.

It's not that my greenhouse hasn't shown great results....it's that i'm tired of filling the humidifiers and working in such a tight space. Who knows i may keep the GH going in the end, but for now this is going to be a fun project. I've previously had 100% g2g success, i doubt i'll have that much luck so i intend to knock up about 4-5 extra jars just incase so i can do 5 quarts per tub 1block of coir 2 quarts of verm to 4qt of water. i find that 4.25 is too much and i have to fan too much. this may just be with this brand of eco earth and verm i use, i'm not sure.
All of my previous tubs have had 6 1" holes i believe i'm going to go buy a 1.5" bit for my new tubs, i don't want to go 2" bc i've read so many ppl say how much more of a pain it is to get the polyfil right in the bigger hole. I've also considered just doing 8-10 1" holes. Chances are i'll do the 6 hole method with 1.5" bit though.
And this is just a nice little cluster of GT me and my gf ate last week.

All in all, i'm quiet excited for my full out monotub adventure. I have room to stack about 12-14 of these 64 quart tubs bc they're shorter. I'm guessing my sub will be right at 3" it may be closer to 3.5-4 however, haven't used 64 quart tubs before. they're 'Homz' lockable lid tubs.
because of this i will be using tight polyfill in the top holes during colonization, also bc i will be stacking them.
BLACK trash bag liners will be used in the bottom of every tub, i've learned my lesson about not using liners LOL 
just thought ya'll would enjoy seeing the journey i'm about to go on....
if enough ppl want this to be a full out grow log i would consider doing so, just let me know. well time to burn one and start the first 15 jars or so of wbs.
the only thing i'm considering doing different this time is making self healing injection ports, although polyfill hasn't failed me yet 
i'm also considering doing the bubblewrap tek on 4 tubs and none on the other 4 as a test, wally world has 150sq ft of bubble wrap on sale for 11$
Be careful with your knowledge. my lack of it led me to trying to train one my tubs before the first flush and this happened. Monotub mistake
Edited by xaylon420 (05/14/13 08:13 AM)
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18058176 - 04/04/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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one of the first 2 twin tubs i did that i didn't break's pins are beautiful imo
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18058865 - 04/04/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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What will you be using for lighting all the tubs?
I'm doing something similar, you said you could stack 12-14 of them, but how will you give them all light?
I'm wondering because I'm going to build a shelf that can fit 4 mono's on each row, and then put a CFL tube above each row, but if your idea is easier than that; I'm all for it!!
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: tommy420]
#18058879 - 04/04/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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xaylon420 said:

one of the first 2 twin tubs i did that i didn't break's pins are beautiful imo 
Well done!!!
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tommy420 said: What will you be using for lighting all the tubs?
I'm doing something similar, you said you could stack 12-14 of them, but how will you give them all light?
I'm wondering because I'm going to build a shelf that can fit 4 mono's on each row, and then put a CFL tube above each row, but if your idea is easier than that; I'm all for it!!
You can also place a light ballist from wally world against the wall up and down, then stak your tubs nearby
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#18058967 - 04/04/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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xaylon420 said:

one of the first 2 twin tubs i did that i didn't break's pins are beautiful imo 
Well done!!!
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tommy420 said: What will you be using for lighting all the tubs?
I'm doing something similar, you said you could stack 12-14 of them, but how will you give them all light?
I'm wondering because I'm going to build a shelf that can fit 4 mono's on each row, and then put a CFL tube above each row, but if your idea is easier than that; I'm all for it!!
You can also place a light ballist from wally world against the wall up and down, then stak your tubs nearby
Thanks for the quick response, and in doing that it won't lessen your yield capabilities from all the pins overgrowing towards the side with the light? I think I might just go with your lighting method, a lot simpler than building a massive shelf even though I've got room for one.
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#18058992 - 04/04/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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i have 2 6500k 3foot bulbs in a shop style light from lowes. i should prolly put it vertical but it's also my closets light source for getting shit lol. it has been working well. i'll keep updating these tubs
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: tommy420]
#18059035 - 04/04/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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i might add, the room is a very light color and reflects light well. and it's brighter than the sun in there so i have no doubt that they will all get enough. if you haven't noticed many guides say "ambient" light, however i could be mistaken lol. I take no credit for the idea of staking tubs with this technique. Stonesun was the first i saw to discuss about using tight poly in the top while colonizing bc the stacked tubs airseals them sometimes. just something to keep in mind if you go with this method 
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tommy420 said: What will you be using for lighting all the tubs?
I'm doing something similar, you said you could stack 12-14 of them, but how will you give them all light?
I'm wondering because I'm going to build a shelf that can fit 4 mono's on each row, and then put a CFL tube above each row, but if your idea is easier than that; I'm all for it!!
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18059171 - 04/04/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: tommy420]
#18059221 - 04/04/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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tommy420 said: Thanks for the quick response, and in doing that it won't lessen your yield capabilities from all the pins overgrowing towards the side with the light?
Mushrooms do not use light to tell them which way to grow, they will grow opposite of gravity, even in complete darkness.
They will however orient their caps towards the light, because they derive energy from it.
Off to the side is fine.
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Edited by PussyFart (04/04/13 06:24 PM)
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: PussyFart]
#18061598 - 04/05/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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update
This is a tub that the jars took an extra week to colonize, i decided i would experiment with consolidation for myself and it's been consolidating for about 8 days and it has so many knots i believe it will be an absolutely beuatiful pinset!!!!
This is my "broken tub" that i was so upset over. the way it's recolonizing is beautiful. hundreds of tiny tiny pins mostly in the area's that were broken!!! i think it's because it's evaporating faster maybe? regardless my first 3 monotubs after 2 years of GH are going amazing.
This is the monotub pictured above, about 14-16 hours later.

my holes are 1" and not 1.5" so i've noticed a little fuzzy growth on my biggest pins, i'll increase fae manually by fanning some more, i knew i would have to with my holes so high but i thought i could get by.
i might note, this best tub is on my top shelf where it gets NO direct light, it gets ambient reflected from the white ceiling.
Edited by xaylon420 (04/05/13 08:52 AM)
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18061624 - 04/05/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice tub meh friend
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: twistedty]
#18061640 - 04/05/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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twistedty said: nice tub meh friend
thanks man!!! i'll be looking to trade gt prints atm and mazatapec in about 2 months for some pe and pe albino prints. if anyone likes my grows and is interested hit me up!
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18061654 - 04/05/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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twistedty said: nice tub meh friend
thanks man!!! i'll be looking to trade gt prints atm and mazatapec in about 2 months for some pe and pe albino prints. if anyone likes my grows and is interested hit me up! 
ill hit you up so hard.
dont forget to post the canopy shot of this tub later
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: twistedty]
#18061657 - 04/05/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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absolutely will post a canopy, was actually thinking of letting it over mature just a tad to make it canopy out even more >:)
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18061928 - 04/05/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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xaylon420 said: update
This is a tub that the jars took an extra week to colonize, i decided i would experiment with consolidation for myself and it's been consolidating for about 8 days and it has so many knots i believe it will be an absolutely beuatiful pinset!!!
The problem with consolidating bulk is that you'll end up with a lot more aborts and less untouched surface area for your second flush. I always get better results fruiting at 100%, both in yield and health of fruits
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18066231 - 04/06/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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24 hours after the last pictures.
This tub has been colonizing for 20 days, the one corner just refuses to myc over. it has a light layer of aerial myc so i'm going to fruit anyhow.

Here's my broken tubs pins coming along great!!!
My best tub is having some sideways mushies due to lack of fae. i'm trying to fan a couple times a day but sometimes i just can't get to it. my holes were placed too high.
the one tub i just fruited is a 64qt like the 8 new ones i have. i had measured out 15quarts of water to drill my holes but they ended up about 1.5-2" too high..... i'm going to mark it out based on this one "with a ilttle unlevel sub" prolly drill them at 3.75" or 3.5" with a 1.5" bit instead of the 1" holes that are in these 3 current tubs.
figure i'll drill one tub and get everything in it and make sure my measurements are right this time....also going to pick up a damned level!!!!

Edited by xaylon420 (04/06/13 08:46 AM)
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18066244 - 04/06/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is a nice pinset but might end up good example of what I mean by more aborts and less surface area for a second flush  The substrate can be an inch or so below the level of the bottom holes with no worries. I would recommend removing the poly in one of the two top holes and letting your flush mature. It'll give you a large FAE boost and you should have no problem leaving it be until harvest.
Honestly I fruit all my tubs from start to finish with one top hole open and the results are fucking ridiculous
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18066248 - 04/06/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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this tub actually wasn't consolidated lol. the 2 grey tubs were fruited at 100% i've been picking my green house and that's half the reason i waited on the clear 3rd tub i have a hepa air filter in there for a fan to move air. i'll try removing the poly from this one. it's so much easier to tell if a mono is at the right humidity than my gh imo! regardless thanks for the props on the pinset, it's my best yet.
on a side note, are those mushies growing sideways more from fae or the fact it was on a top shelf and only got minimal light? i moved it down a few feet to see if it helped. i'll go pull out one of my top holes in each.
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: xaylon420]
#18066256 - 04/06/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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xaylon420 said: this tub actually wasn't consolidated lol.
 Then you have some great genetics there, good sir! Big props to you 
They look like they need FAE to my eyes. Popping the top hole will give you a BIG boost. I think you'll be pleased. Keep an eye on the condensation on the walls. It's a good indicator of FAE vs RH in a mono, because it's always a trade off between the two. You've got plenty of surface moisture on your sub though so you should not need to mist at all before your harvest.
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Re: goodbye greenhouse!!!! an upcoming monotub grow log!! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18066435 - 04/06/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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was from a ms syringe from a sponsor! g2g'd 1jar into 16 very happy with this syringe. my mazatapec jars are EXPLODING!!!! i just love how rhizo they look compared to how my gt looked colonizing the jars. will have to upload new pics of them soon.
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FrankHorrigan said: Then you have some great genetics there, good sir! Big props to you
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