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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Azurescens89]
    #14513595 - 05/26/11 03:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

1 layer of felt is all I use, you may use more if you wish:grin:

I don't add, subtract or adjust.

1. build the mono

2. spawn to bulk and wait 15 days

3. put into fruiting.

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If you want to cover the holes with tape during colonization you can do that as well.


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I just noticed your short a few blue mushrooms....:strokebeard:...lets fix that:grin:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Barakanaten]
    #14513620 - 05/26/11 03:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I put a double layer of felt over the holes on a monotub a couple of days ago, I think I will take one of the layers off and see what happens. I have it sloppily duct taped on there for now. Perhaps a more permanent solution will occur in the near future.

My only problem with making a more permanent solution has to do with how I dunk my sub. I leave the sub inside the monotub, then I put a piece of PVC pipe through the holes to submerge it.

I made some new jar lids using your tek too. Instead of having a fancy injector port I just have a hole filled with RTV silicone though, works the same. (I think... I have never owned an injector port)

And thanks for the mushrooms! I mostly just observe here on the shroomery and don't post much. I haven't delved into the whole rating system.

Thanks for the well written tek, it is formatted very nicely!

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Azurescens89]
    #14514156 - 05/26/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you for taking the time to share this.  I think this might finally replace Tyvek for me as my filter medium.  Low cost and low maintenance - great stuff.

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Barakanaten]
    #14515214 - 05/26/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for this Easy Felt Tek! I have been curious about it forever. Looked over my craft store's range of felt and had no idea if their brands were the same as Easy Felt... with your "trusted brands" list now I know what to look out for.

Amazingly complete tek... now I don't have to ponder over how much polyfill equals one pinch/one handful/too loose/tight/other arbitrary measurement. Thanks!!


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Azurescens89]
    #14517054 - 05/26/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Azurescens89 said:


My only problem with making a more permanent solution has to do with how I dunk my sub.

I leave the sub inside the monotub, then I put a piece of PVC pipe through the holes to submerge it.






That was my problem as well,
So I just added water to the mono until the sub started to float.
I poured a pitcher of water over the sub.


Putting a tub inside and on the sub
and then placing a weight or heavy items in the tub
would keep an even weight distribution on the sub, just like a TiT Tub in Tub



I'm not sure if the sub really needs to be completely submerged
or if its one of those "be sure to take out the floaters" type deals
we see in so many WBS Teks. (a complete waste of time.)

This would be a great time for me to explore this further, thanks for bringing this up.
hopefully someone can chime in and help us out on this.

my thinking is
Mycelium as a network is able to get water from a source
with just a few strands or a percentage of Myc able to
be in contact of the water, would be able to drink it up and distribute it.

Now that I say it out loud it doesn't sound right,
lets just wait for more info to roll in. (I tried)...:blush:

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Barakanaten]
    #14517555 - 05/26/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If I want a second flush w/ coir, I just mist that bitch as heavily as I can then give it a nice fan, then repeat for 1-3 days...it works :2cents:

Besides, sometimes you don't even need a "real" dunk. Like Barak said w/ his pitcher. You probably could just pour a pitcher of water around the shrunken substrate & let it soak that up & see how the second flush will turn out, if it's weak, use more or less water depending on weight of the substrate.

You should have the feeling of how a hydrated tub feels vs. one that needs dunking by now.


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14518445 - 05/26/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

todlow said:
If I want a second flush w/ coir, I just mist that bitch as heavily as I can then give it a nice fan, then repeat for 1-3 days...it works :2cents:

Besides, sometimes you don't even need a "real" dunk. Like Barak said w/ his pitcher. You probably could just pour a pitcher of water around the shrunken substrate & let it soak that up & see how the second flush will turn out, if it's weak, use more or less water depending on weight of the substrate.

You should have the feeling of how a hydrated tub feels vs. one that needs dunking by now.




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Quote:

I just mist that bitch as heavily as I can then give it a nice fan,




That's how I have done it as well, I try to apply the principles of LM's heat shock Tek in my siggy
to my grows, in the Tek he explains the "slow dunk", same principle as we are describing here.

The picture below is one from 3 months ago or so and
shows the standing water both in the tub and on top of the sub



I brought that tub to 5 flushes without a contam.

For a traditional dunk:
4 hour dunk is all that is needed.

Things to consider:

Standing water causes Bacteria

...everyone has different results I guess,
I personally have never had a problem,
Mostly I think that is due to the high supply of FAE,
The thought is that FAE can beat back the contams.
Sometimes I'll run a fan in the closet pointed at the door....per faceys suggestion

hope this helps out guys


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Barakanaten]
    #14518967 - 05/27/11 01:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's true, one can always pour some water on the sub or mist the hell out of it. I've also had great second flushes without dunking at all. Perhaps I will try one of the methods mentioned above when the time comes...

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Azurescens89]
    #14535285 - 05/30/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am seriously considering going the route of a monotub style TEK, using the previously mentioned synthetic felt, in place of loose poly-fil...

...All those currently trying this mod, please post your results. As I am very very interested in the results :laugh:

Thank you, thank you :peace:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #14537426 - 05/30/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I just found this. Going to be using it very soon thanks to one Barakakakakkakakakaka that was nice enough to send me some 6000 miles away :coaster:

Thanks mang.

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Base Icks]
    #14538295 - 05/30/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

where is Barak??

been a day or two:shrug:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14538383 - 05/30/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: OoBYCoO]
    #14542148 - 05/31/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Do yal think that 2 layers of this stuff on a jar would be good, bad, or otherwise unnoticeable?  Not sure if it would hinder GE too much or something.


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Pfffffff]
    #14542669 - 05/31/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

try 1 layer & see what you get.

The more expensive EX-Felt is double layered, which is basically what SFD's are.


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14544131 - 06/01/11 02:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I used two layers of felt of a brand called "Rainbow Classic Felt" on my monotub while it colonized. This brand is pretty thin in my opinion. It cost 35 cents for a sheet at Jo Ann's Fabric.

I spawned 8 quarts of rye to a brick of coir w/ 2 quarts verm in an 18 gallon tub. I took a peek on day 5 and it was completely colonized.

On my past 18 gallon mono's I would use 6-7 quarts of spawn and I would duct tape the holes shut. The tubs would colonize in about 5-6 days.

This could all be in my head but to me it looks like a bit less rhizomorphic growth compared to my past mono's with the same LC.

The tub with the felt over the holes has been consolidating for a couple of days. I will leave it for a couple more. But perhaps I will see how it fruits when the time comes (In a bit more than a week probably) and update you all if anybody cares to know!

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Azurescens89]
    #14544724 - 06/01/11 07:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I care to know! :smile:

Thank you for the update and comparisons :thumbup:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #14544862 - 06/01/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Anyone ever tried a circle cutter to cut these out?

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: total]
    #14544903 - 06/01/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Guess it would prob take a fabric circle cutter... :rolleyes:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: total]
    #14547812 - 06/01/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've got one out in the shop... will definitely be using it to cut my monotub "filter", for sure... I bought Poly-fil, and plan to use it for my first bulk grow.  Unless; before I get there, someone comes back with stellar success using the felt in its place  :pipesmoke:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: HorizonSpawn]
    #14547813 - 06/01/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've seen Barak have great success w/ it...

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