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    #14488446 - 05/21/11 05:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Easy Felt Tek
This Tek was inspired by
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What is Easy Felt?

  • Eazy Felt is a stiff/rigid synthetic material.

  • Cheap and Easy alternative to *SFD's and Polyfill
    *Synthetic Filter Disks

  • same material as polyfill only "ironed" out into a mat.

  • * autoclavable melting point of 254°c (490°f)

    * PC temps at 15 psi (approx. 107 kPa) relative to sea level
    at atmospheric pressure  are 122 °C(252 °F) in short...your good to go.





What can I use Easy Felt for?

Anything you use SFD's for and more.
  • Jar Lids

  • Mono Tub's (Tek coming soon!)

  • Spawn Bags


Jar Lids

Can be used for:
  • PF Jars Cakes

  • Spawn Jars

  • Petri Jars

  • Printing Jars


PF Jars

RR Style (one of them)

Jar>Lid>SFD>Ring



Using the lid configuration above you would drill 4-5 holes
in the lid for GE and inoculation points,
Just as you would with a standard PF jars with a vermiculite barrier.



meaning there isn't a need to inoculate through the Filter material.
just remove the ring and filter, inoculate and replace filter and ring.
There are many ways to do this that is just one way

Spawn Jars

Follow n00bie's Lid Tek and replace the use of SFD's, with Easy Disks thats what I did.

Another awesome Lid Tek is TL's How I Do All of My Lids



My lids are like this:

  • 1/2" Forstner bit SHIP/Inoc point

  • 3/8" Forstner bit GE/Easy Disk

  • Drill holes in the lid while
    it is on the jar and in the box

  • SHIP Self Healing Inoculation Ports Here is where to get them or Here at Out Grow

  • Easy Felt

  • use clear silicone for the Easy Felt

  • Use RTV for the SHIPS, Clear silicone works  very well also







Here is a Master Grain Jar



petri Jars

I use the same configuration for Petri Jars as I do for Spawn Jars,



sometimes I use Plastic Jars too, its just a deep petri to me.
drill a 1/2 hole dead center slap an Easy Disk on an BANG!




Printing Jars
no picture at this time.



Mono Tubs

Configuration:
One hole on short side Monstermitch or Ohmatic style



or

2 holes on short sides covered with Easy Disks Barakakakaka style:grin:




Spawn Bags

Follow whatever make your own spawn bag tek and just
replace the filter material with Easy Felt.:thinker:




Construction

well it's all in the name, It's Easy!

Items of note*

*That crazy looking drill bit is whats known as a "1/2 inch Forstner Bit" It will make smooth holes without any burrs.



Tracing out your Easy Disks

70mm Regular mouth and 100mm Wide mouth Easy Disks

Use the lid and trace out your Easy Disks.



Quarter Sized Easy Disks
use a 100mm Easy Disks you just cut out to get 7-8 Quarter sized Easy Disks




Mono Sized Disks

This size and method used is for 64qt Standard Mono using 2" holes

Use the Ring this time and trace out your Easy Disks




Barakakaka Where can I get Easy felt?

It can be purchased at :
Fabric Stores
Arts & craft stores

:money:
1 sheet 18" W x 12" L is .99cents
and makes 110 +/- 1 U.S Minted Quarter Sized Disks.
that comes out to less than a penny per disk....
Cha Ching! :moneyeyes:

BA, wow that's cheap, But why would I spend $1 When I could use a Tyvek envelop for FREE from the post office!?

:wow: Don't be a Ding Dong, that's just ridiculous:noob::kingtard:
everyone knows that is not a suitable filter material.

Okay, okay, you got me there B, But what about Tyvek Paint Suites huh..huh :derfase:

Tyvek is okay, Many Folks here on the boards use it.


My thought's

A. It's not as good as Easy Felt IMHO & IME

B. Tyvek suites are more expensive.

c. Tyvek suite material doesnt hold up
as long in the PC and the layers split/wiggle
and fall apart creating contaminate vectors.

d. Pc cycles can effect pore size causing the pores to "Expand"

Quote:

RR said:
*Tyvek is functional and cheap or free. However, synthetic filter disks last for many years and thousands of uses. Tyvek tends to get ripped at the edges of the lid, often resulting in only one use. It can also twist, making the lid very hard to get off later for G2G or other procedures. The time spent cutting tyvek to shape each time will easily outweigh any cost advantage. Even though I sell tyvek on my website, I still prefer filter disks.




RR has this to say about junk filters:

Quote:

First of all, trying to stop contaminants with a coffee filter
is like trying to stop a mosquito with a barbed wire fence.

Two coffee filters are like having two strands of barbed wire.
Is that going to stop a mosquito???



:harhar:


Image Courtesy of 13shrooms


Additional Info on Filtration By 13Shrooms


So polyfill is synthetic and You use it as a filter,
Does that make Easy Felt synthetic filter material?
When I cut it into disks would that make it a synthetic filter disk (SFD)?


:yesnod:

This all sounds too good to be true B, what is your contaminate ratio?

I stopped counting Spawn Jars after 100
So for all intents and purposes I could say I am 100/100
I have never had a contaminated spawn jar from using Easy Felt.
In fact I have only had two contaminated spawn jars ever, they were
from my first spore syringe I ever made and it was made using open air processes:facepalm:

I had a petri dish get black mold but thats because I crammed the
dish in the box it came in and tore the filter up and exposed it to open air...:picard::picard:

This whole thing is funny because I actually have a pm right now asking me about Easy Felt...lol

Hey Barak, I'm at the store now, which one do I get? any tips?

Tips for Choosing a Felt Material
  • Brand Names
  • Stiffness/Rigidity
  • Thickness
  • Thin Spots Inspect the material for thin spots


I can only recommend using the below brands


Easy Felt




Friendly Felt (ECO-FI)



EZ Felt
I dont have a picture ATM at the moment


Other Names:
ECO-FI
Eco Felt
Econo Felt
These I have not tested for spawn jars but have used them for Monos as a Polyfill re-placement

The only question left would be that SFD that the vendors sell
have a micron rating of 0.30μm and Easy Felt's μm rating is?


that I do not know,
but like I said, I have never had a contaminated Jar from Easy Felt.

Easy Felt works, Easy Felt doesn't know if it has a  μm rating either does the contaminates:grin:


Enjoy!  :hippie:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Barakanaten]
    #14488450 - 05/21/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for sharing this great tek...:bowdown:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: Luger0815]
    #14488512 - 05/21/11 06:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nice write up,

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14488622 - 05/21/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:woot:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14488730 - 05/21/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: OoBYCoO]
    #14488880 - 05/21/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i see you did apply a lot of effort in this.

:hatsoff:



although im not into that high art of making lids, it was worth reading.


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
    #14488997 - 05/21/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Great tek! Should I still use foil over my lids when pcing or does this eliminate the need for it?


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
    #14489025 - 05/21/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:lowfive: Barakatalksalot! :woot: well done.

higgedly - you're saving A TON of time in the long run by cutting the circles & using them for lids. I use SFDs & EZ-Felt (as long as it's the double layered stiff stuff like Barak said) is basically the exact same thing. You're going to wear out your lid before you wear out the filter material & it's easily transferred to a new lid.

shroomy - you shouldn't need foil on your lids, but I'm not 100% on that. I know you don't need it for SFD material.


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: shroomybgood]
    #14489063 - 05/21/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i would still use foil so u dont get the felt wet. i believe water can still get in and mess up ur ratio.  :2cents:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14489081 - 05/21/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea, like I said, I haven't used it so IDK about the foil. You're not going to mess up your water content w/ it. You just don't want the filter to get wet.


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14489095 - 05/21/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ok i wasnt too sure about the ratio but yeah .wet filter is  no good lol

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14489098 - 05/21/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:tinfoil:

I wouldn't leave home without my trust foil!


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14489115 - 05/21/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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I wouldn't leave home without my trust foil!



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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14489120 - 05/21/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OK so I used the foil.

What's the best way to wash these lids? I usually wash all jars and lids just like any other dishes. Is it OK to use soapy water with these as long as I rinse well and allow to dry?


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    #14489136 - 05/21/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

that i dont know. we will learn together lol


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14489143 - 05/21/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

IDK either.

I don't even use soapy water on my lids. Just a nice hot water scrub w/ a dish towel. They get PCed, which guarantees them to be clean...:2cents:


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14489202 - 05/21/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: tripdawg420]
    #14489228 - 05/21/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You don't need to clean lids unless you want to. ^^^ like todlow said the PC does that for you.....


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Re: Easy Felt Tek [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14489292 - 05/21/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nice write up :thumbup: 5 :mushroom2:'s :shineon:


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    #14490415 - 05/21/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yayy nice one baraka! will most likely be trying this stuff out soon
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