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Psilocybe cubensis "Golden Teacher" on millet
    #1803568 - 08/11/03 09:55 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

...spores to dextrose/potato-peel solution, then inoculated millet with the resulting mycelium. Pic was lost some time ago.

First time I've used this planter type tray. I prefer it over the ice-cream containers that flex when lifted. In addition they don't need a foil lining to keep the light out. These trays are planned for manure/straw. I'll wait for the warmer weather where keeping a stock pot of water at 70C is possible outdoors. I can't cook poo in the house.



A level layer of pre-sterilised microwaved 60/40 coir/vermiculite into base with 2 x 1lt colonised millet to either end. Tray is left with drainage holes open with its catch tray so it doesn't muck up the terrarium.



All materials leveled.



Finished off 60/40 coir/vermiculite (again microwaved sterile). It went direct to the fruiting chamber, no incubation nor foil cover. Though I'm of the thinking that an incubation/cover is the better way to go as it leads to a better pin-set (canopy). I'll compare in due time.



Fruited...







Weight 462 grams. That will drop with drying and cleaning off peat/vermiculite.

I'll post back dry weight in a few days.

(edited to change to *completed*)


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1803620 - 08/11/03 10:08 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

wow., you my friend have your shit togeather. now thw question is, can you eat them all at once?


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1803719 - 08/11/03 10:38 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Nice fucking work bro.
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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1803880 - 08/11/03 11:17 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

wait how much substrate did u use?


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: MycoGlowFlow]
    #1803992 - 08/11/03 11:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, how exactly do you clean your mushrooms?

Just some water and a cloth? Do you cut off the bottoms of them that are covered in dirt? (what if you grew it from poo? I dont wanna any poo chunks in my mushrooms)

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: MycoGlowFlow]
    #1804087 - 08/12/03 12:13 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

>>wait how much substrate did u use?

Myco, 2 x 1lt jars of colonised millet @ ratio of 350ml millet, 1/4 teaspoon gypsum & 250ml water per 1lt jar.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...mp;Main=1633221

Your question is fair, as one 1lt jar of colonised wbs in a 1lt ice-cream container resulted in 372 grams wet weight as seen in ^above link. However the link ^above shown tray was actually colonised wbs and then mixed into sterilised vermiculite in the ice-cream tray and then cased. To me, I think inert water holding material, rather than the food was the reason. I could drag up the pictures.

However, there were two crucial differences in play this time:

* There was no incubation/covering stage on the casing. It went direct to the fruit chamber.

* The green planter trays is only 75% the surface area of what 2 x the 1lt ice-cream containers are.

My question from this...

...what's the best ratio of surface area to substrate depth for maximum flush? Or is that question absurd when multiple flushes are the sum of a tray output?

I ask the 2nd question when the general belief is a greater substrate depth allows for more satisfying plural flushes. The green tray btw is 3.3lt volume (as measured by taping the drainage holes closed and filling with measured water) thus allowing space for inert water holding coir/verm in the base as well as the casing too. It's too early at this stage to know where it will go in successive flushes.

More to the point and in time, I will compare incubated/covered green trays results to 'direct-to-the-fruiting-chamber' trays in the attempt to compare/increase pin formation and avoid gaps in canopy. But for a lazy "throw it to the fruit chamber, leave and forget" (mate I have other stuff that's time pressing and with winter on, incubation space is at a premium) it seems satisfactory.


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1804115 - 08/12/03 12:20 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Ravinoff, once they dry the verm/coir simply falls off on the newspaper, then they go to the desiccant chamber where the last stubborn bits of grit fall off. Crumbs at the most. If you're growing in manure, I imagine your casing layer (if you go 1/2 to an inch deep) will keep the finished fruit harvest well yonder the poo.


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1804121 - 08/12/03 12:23 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

man you got your stuff organized nice grow. I wish I could whip out something like that :laugh:

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1804349 - 08/12/03 01:30 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

ok, thanks a bunch

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1804461 - 08/12/03 02:32 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Nice! I am impressed, good grow log dude! I'm gonna look at some gt spores again soon myself. My first time i looked at gt's on a shitty microscope. Wish me luck! :grin:


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: DanKnugget]
    #1805007 - 08/12/03 09:17 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Nice! Trying some gts myself actually :smile:

-Wayne

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: milddub]
    #1822272 - 08/17/03 08:29 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

DanKnugget & milddub good going on your GT's. I was fortuneate to trade with a bloke from the shroomery long ago to get the GT and Australian strains. Yet to see the Australian strain as a casing.

Anyway, pins now showing on 2nd flush of the tray.



Cracker dry clean weight of 1st flush is 41 grams.



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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1822597 - 08/17/03 12:14 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

got to say that is ONE OLD DIGI SCALE but hell whatever works nice job!


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Fiend_13]
    #1838370 - 08/21/03 06:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Fiend 13, yeah they're old scales but reliable.

Anyway, second flush of same GT tray...






531 gram fresh, weigh will drop with drying & verm/coir clean-off.



I'll go to a 3rd flush only, I think the space taken is better given to a newie. All the same, I'll add up sum dry weight on the 3 flushes. So far I'm satisfied with 500 gram millet in this style of container (500 gram millet = 700ml millet volume per 2 x 1lt prep grain jars for colonisation).

I have questions...

Does anyone know the food to shroom dry weight return ratio in millet?

What is the best surface area to substrate depth ratio?

TIA


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1838487 - 08/21/03 06:52 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Nice job... just injected 6 GT jars. Hope mine is as nice.

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Bigcaps] * 1
    #1838507 - 08/21/03 06:57 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

ya thats definatly impressive. keep it up ;D

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: whole9]
    #1839805 - 08/22/03 07:29 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Impressive.

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Erik006]
    #1854588 - 08/27/03 11:32 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

How long did it take for them to pin after fruiting?


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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Starter]
    #1854645 - 08/27/03 11:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

>What is the best surface area to substrate depth ratio?

The deeper the merrier, but no more than around 5 inches with grain, 10 inches max with compost or straw.

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Re: Golden Teacher on millet... [Re: Flipmcneil]
    #1854659 - 08/27/03 11:47 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Damn!  That is some awesome growing!!!!  Amazing and impressive results!

41 dry grams for a first flush!  Jeez that's only 15g less that 2 ounces!!!! 

Your giving me inspiration and motivation :smile:


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