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    #1303334 - 02/12/03 06:34 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)



Put two airstones in a rubbermade size of your choosing.    hook up your hoses and put in the geo-lite or hydroton ( lava rock will work, it is much cheeper but weighs a ton). I ran them threw the side.  I added the geolite 4 inches deep and water till it was an inch from the top    . Plug in hoses    ad cakes and go.  
  I hope this helps someone.  :grin:




   


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1303355 - 02/12/03 06:46 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome!!!!!! :laugh: Thanx bunches!!!! :grin: 


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: bluesky]
    #1303469 - 02/12/03 07:45 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

rad setup man, i can defanitly see this being a nifty little thing to have.  :grin: :grin:

thanks for the post man.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1303815 - 02/12/03 10:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I might have to close this post and delete the contents.
The hydra-pod is patented.
I will come back with a decision from the Admin.
I won't have Myco-tek threatening to sue the Shroomery over this post.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Roadkill]
    #1303864 - 02/12/03 10:50 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I removed the name from the post.
Every single part I posted is in a hardware store and has there own patend on them.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1304473 - 02/13/03 05:29 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

would you really need that much air? i don't know what the air diffuser unit looks like in the more expensive kind but wouldn't just a single port, split be a sufficent amount of airflow? i own an aqurium so i know there's a lot of air to be had by two ports.. course you can double your "air pumped geo-lite chamber" to accomodate twice as many cakes.. ohhh... maybe i'll give it a go next time.. good idea :smile: thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention that you need not spend 100 dollars for a setup like this.   


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: sirJ]
    #1304929 - 02/13/03 08:21 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

the bubbling air also helps increase the wicking action of the geolite to the cakes.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Roadkill]
    #1304935 - 02/13/03 08:27 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I might have to close this post and delete the contents.
The hydra-pod is patented.
I will come back with a decision from the Admin.
I won't have Myco-tek threatening to sue the Shroomery over this post.




if fully understand your concern and am not arguing, I really don't care what mods do with threads but let me get this straight... i make a device and patent it, you in turn figure out how to make a similar device and simoply tell people how to make and I have no substantial evidence you used this device or anyone else built if from your plans. Now, I can sue you?!?!? Please tell me the only "wrong" part of this was referring to the almighty name of this product...


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: debianlinux]
    #1305374 - 02/13/03 11:50 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

hi..bro

Using the name and a picture of the Hydra-pod was why I was concerned...notice that they have been edited out.
Myco-tek has threatened people in the past.

Basically he owns the patent on hydroponic mushroom devices....as I understand it.

Yes you can make your own.
No you can't sell them for profit.
I have seen several people make, sell and trade simular products....they were always threatened with a lawsuit.

I really don't care myself....I do care about the Shroomery!

But you have to understand that Myco-tek is a Sponsor.
If someone makes their own pod...they probably shouldn't flaunt it and tell others how to make it...it's sorta a slap in the face to a Sponsor that helps pay for us being here...if you catch my drift.

I'll leave the thread open....we have been talking about this in the Mod forum.

I guess I'll end with this...if you designed a product, marketed it, advertised it and you feed your family from it's sale's...you might feel differently.



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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Roadkill]
    #1305525 - 02/13/03 12:44 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

does this apply if someone was to build one that used a total different concept?
That had nothing incommon to there product.
I don't see how they could if u based it's design differently.
And used nothing that a pod uses.

So are you saying even if someone invented something different but for the same reason they could sue them?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1305917 - 02/13/03 03:17 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Nice setup, mine is very similar, but that one is not prepared for winter time :grin: :wink:.
What modification woul you make to add a submersible heater ?

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: MAIA]
    #1305932 - 02/13/03 03:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

For winter, i bet you could do the ol' fish tank heater, extra tub, and water tek! That would be dope. Winter is the devil.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1305955 - 02/13/03 03:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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For winter, i bet you could do the ol' fish tank heater, extra tub, and water tek! That would be dope. Winter is the devil. 




I made one just like you said one year ago but i thought about doing things even more simple and modified it, no need for an extra tub. Just add one more inch of geolite and another inch of water, then submerge the fish tank heater into the geolite :tongue:. In fact i use one inch of geolite at bottom and two inches of perlite on top, i like perlite humidification much more than geolite when using this tubs.

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: MAIA]
    #1305960 - 02/13/03 03:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Btw, you get an exact, optimal and steady temperature.

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Roadkill]
    #1305986 - 02/13/03 03:45 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt that patent would stand up to a stiff breeze in court.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1306274 - 02/13/03 05:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

In paticular I think he's clear as far as the design of the terrarium he has shown here.

I'm not familiar enough on the specifics of the Hydra-Pod design, to know how similar his desingn is, but I feel confident that there is enough prior art that his design would not violate any valid patent.

Excessive assosiation of his device with the Hydra-Pod could be pushing his luck on Trademark laws. I doubt he's anywhere near doing that at this point.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1306493 - 02/13/03 07:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I agree B_H. I'm not a legal expert or anyhing, but I think there would be little, if anything, Myco-Tek could do to. Now if Magash started marketing it as a Hydro-Pod or something like that, yes. However, from what I have seen, the Hydro-Pod is hardly a revolututionary design.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1306648 - 02/13/03 10:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Ok I'm not trying to make a cent from putting hardware parts together and selling them for hundreds of dollars. I'm telling people how to do it theirselfs. With the people on this site I'm sure most of them already knew how to do it. I may have just reminded them the idea was there. You know the old oh shit I forgot about that thing.

As far as being sued "come and get me". The idea I posted is just simular,if you could sue for such a stupid thing Ford would have sued GM and every other car maker out there.

I am a member of the shroomery though and will remove the post if it is wished.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1307090 - 02/14/03 04:49 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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With the people on this site I'm sure most of them already knew how to do it. I may have just reminded them the idea was there. You know the old oh shit I forgot about that thing.




You did well, this hydrapod stuff is a minor detail.

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: MAIA]
    #1307176 - 02/14/03 05:31 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

does RK own stock or somethin' ? lol


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1307575 - 02/14/03 08:52 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

cool , this is exactly what i planned on doing. im gonna put weather stipping on the top so the lid is pretty snug on there then put some filters towards the bottom of the terrarium. because if co2 is heavier then the air then the filters on the bottom will allow the air to froce out the co2


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: deanofmean]
    #1307620 - 02/14/03 09:36 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

does RK own stock or somethin' ? lol


No I don't.
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: deanofmean]
    #1307661 - 02/14/03 09:58 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Two things,
1- This is a good post with a good pictorial.
2- He shouldn't have used the name "hydra-pod".

Things were corrected, what else ?
Doesn't matter if it gets you to court or something, it's not ethical. No problem anyway.

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: A0999]
    #1308619 - 02/14/03 06:17 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I was gonna do the same thing but I test ran it without the weather stripping and it held 98% no problem.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1308845 - 02/14/03 09:25 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

well thats good, no extra work :wink:


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1308859 - 02/14/03 09:41 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

its been quite a while since the original post but i'm sure everyone would like to see updates on the fruits if you have pics?

I'm wondering which is better; dunking or letting the clay pebbles wick into the cake?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1308891 - 02/14/03 10:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

how common is geolite? can it be found in most decent sized cities ? any price estimates? my aquaintance would like to know  :blush:

also... how do casings do in a system like this? I have only seen cakes go into these types of chambers.....  :grin:


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Rastafari]
    #1309167 - 02/15/03 04:51 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

They are just starting to show. This cake ran in it solo  but was on   verm so I don't count it, it was a tester to see if it was a chamber or a cake killer. I hear :wink:  there is 21 cakes in there now. Some are from another chamber on their seconed flush and some are just birthed.
I'll post pics in the next few days then let the thread die, I'm sure people are board of seeing it now.
 


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1309226 - 02/15/03 05:51 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

As for price, frog got 50 liters for $24.50 US at his local hydra store. Best thing ... will never have to purchase perlite again ... just reuse geolite. After cakes are done, boil geolite in 20/1 water/bleach and clean growing chamber. Frog also has used geolite in his casing chambers with success.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1315447 - 02/17/03 09:51 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Some of these are on there seconed flush. The ones with the shrooms had their first flush taken 5 days ago then were put into this thing. The cakes that were birthed into it 5 days ago are starting to pin up nicely.

I'll post pics again in another week.
       
A new strain then my usual pics      The strain in these pics is Mikado x BC Kush and is the kind with the strong lemon smell. Sorry the pics suck I get some better ones up soon. :grin: 


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1315502 - 02/17/03 10:29 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: T0aD]
    #1316137 - 02/18/03 08:03 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1335377 - 02/25/03 05:01 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Well my motherboard went down on this piece of shit so I didn't get to post the last flush. This is what my dogs friend has right now in the poor mans pod.
      if you like to take care of you shrooms this thing is gonna boar the hell out of ya. Nothing to do but pick the shrooms and change the water every couple of weeks. :grin: 


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1335925 - 02/25/03 08:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

does thsi really work as well as the hydra pod, just on a more effecient scale? could you stack these things up? just wondering because i was about to buy a hydra pod this week/


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: clarencerock]
    #1335999 - 02/25/03 08:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, dont waste your money on a hydrapod, make one of these suckers here, it is the same basic idea of the hydra pod, i dont have expierience with these yet but i beleive them to be quite effective, someday i will have my own version of this setup.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1336218 - 02/25/03 10:52 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

oh yeah i meant to ask you, that is silicone tubing your using right? do you have problems with that tubink kinking? do you think vinyl tubing would be better or are there no problems with this??


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: A0999]
    #1336243 - 02/25/03 11:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

There doesn't seem to be any problem with the tubing. Both kinds will work fine.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1336267 - 02/25/03 11:36 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

hey this may seem stupid but from where i am from the geolite thing is jussst ssso impossble to get....can the same principle be used for perlite??....well is it worth a try?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: MetaMountain]
    #1336280 - 02/25/03 11:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have another friend that is using the same idea with perlite and it works just as well it seems.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1336304 - 02/25/03 11:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1340322 - 02/27/03 11:47 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Could i put a fully sumersable fish tank heater in a heater guard then into the middle of the water and geo-lite?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
    #1340855 - 02/27/03 03:09 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, it works. The water evaps a lot faster though.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1414417 - 03/27/03 02:15 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Question: does your friend run the air pump non stop ?

is there a vent for CO2 to escape ?

does he still give it a daily fanning ?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Hector]
    #1414526 - 03/27/03 03:10 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The air pump runs non stop. There are 2 small holes at the top for airflow. No fanning just ad water every every 2 weeks.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1414885 - 03/27/03 05:42 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

As a modification to this excellent TEK would it make more since to place the holes closer to the bottom to vent out heavier CO2?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: ministry]
    #1414937 - 03/27/03 05:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

C02 is not so heavy that the air will pass threw without pushing it out the top. Putting holes in the bottom only seems to rob the upper half of the chamber of humidity.
The fundamental principal behind using air entrainment is to sufficiently mix the two (fresh air and stale air) together and then re-distribute them back into the environment in a more balanced way that is then more beneficial to the mushroom crop. Without this sufficient mixing of the gasses present within the grow space, the crops will remain stunted and will likely never reach their optimum potential.

With the poor mans pod, the settling co2 air is met and diffused by a curtain of fresh air rising from beneath the Geolite surface. This rising flow of air is created from the air diffuser rod situated below the Geolite surface, which is powered by the air pump. The rising air pattern not only prohibits the heavier co2 air from settling down onto the bottom surface as usual but it also simultaneously diffuses the co2 with fresh air as it is distributed back into the environment or grow space where it can be put to good use.



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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1415087 - 03/27/03 07:04 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

spoken like a professional Magash.....I love your set up....do you have any other Poor Man TEKS? Maybe an Incubator, casings, etc.....your ideas are pretty interesting.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: DannyBoy]
    #1415160 - 03/27/03 07:37 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I'm working on a casing machine. Uses a timer that has the date in it. What it does is lower the humidity with a coolmist but it doesn't start for about a week and a half after the casing is put in. I've made one that works well but with all the shit on it you can't really call it a poormans casing machine. My original one worked well but that had a bunch of shit on it also.


It was a fucken pain in the ass but it worked killer. Now I hear they fill it with cuttings and I hear it works well


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1415191 - 03/27/03 07:48 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Magash
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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: george castanza]
    #1415365 - 03/27/03 09:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

What is the best way to heat one of these set ups?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Jordo]
    #1415429 - 03/27/03 09:26 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Sumersible fish tank heater in a heater guard then into the middle of the water and geo-lite.



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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1415781 - 03/28/03 01:40 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

What is a heater guard and what does it look like? Sorry for the questions I just have no idea. Thanks!


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Jordo]
    #1416075 - 03/28/03 08:09 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Jordo]
    #1416175 - 03/28/03 09:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Here ya go.

Heater guard


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1416299 - 03/29/03 12:36 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

AHHH !!! RED X'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !?!??!!?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Hector]
    #1416437 - 03/29/03 03:46 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

What is with all of the broken pictures?!


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Jordo]
    #1416456 - 03/29/03 04:27 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

There working on the site I think it is suppose to be fucked up till the first of next month.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1578551 - 05/26/03 03:43 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

What a great idea! My pet made a trip to wally world late last night and bought many of the supplies necessary to get a pod(s) up and running.

My pet now has 12 jars/containers fully colonized incubating @ 82-85?F that are almost in need of birthing.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: vitamink]
    #1579519 - 05/26/03 10:16 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Glad ya like it.

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Tek : PF
Strain : South American [SA]
Spores : Came from homemade prints. 36 total jars to be injected.
Substrate :Brown Rice Flour [BRF] and Vermiculite [Verm]
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10:15 PM 3/4/03 : Project is started. Jar prep is just putting small holes in the lids for the spore syringe and then taping them closed until inoculation. Tape used is the standard black electrical tape. First batch of jars is mixed. The mix used is 2 parts verm, 1 part water, and 1 part brf. [ This mix is the max fruiting formula by PF.] Mix is put into 1/2 pint canning jars lightly, not packed in, and left it airy. Put substrate in until it reaches the threads of the jar, then add dry verm the rest of the way.
Jars are PCd at 10psi or 240f for a period of 45 minutes. Then jars were left to sit overnight to cool.


8:39 PM 3/5/2003 : First batch of jars injected. (24 jars)

10:04 AM 3/6/2003 : Incubator is running to low 77F. Going to turn it up today.


5:45 PM 3/6/2003 : Second batch of jars is in the PC will be injected tomorrow. Turned up incubator runs at 83F. 86F is the best and if the incubator is 83F and myc growing in the jars is suppose to create a little heat I figure this should work out well.

1:11 PM 3/7/2003 : Second batch of jars is done. (12 jars)

12:10 PM 3/9/2003 : Jars are doing good, no signs of contams


2:54 AM 3/19/2003 : Tape removed from the holes today and coffee filters put over the top of the jars for added protection. Holes were opened so the CO2 in the jars could escape. I gave 12 jars to a friend who kept fucking up. 24 jar?s about 75%done.


12:13 PM 3/22/2003 : Well it's Saturday and the jars will probably be done by the 25th. So it was 36 jars. 12 were given to a friend, 24 done by Tuesday.

10:26 PM 3/23/2003 : 15 jars were done enough to put into dunk. I dunk and cold shock before birthing and after every flush. The other 9 jars have a spot the size of a pea that has to be covered so I'll do those on the 25th.


7:17 PM 3/24/2003 : 15 jars put into the pod. Put in and put a layer of moist verm on top. With geolite I just put the cakes on it. With some other chambers I put the cake on a lid filled with verm. This is done to give the shrooms on the bottom and the top of the cake some added moisture.
The other 9 jars just finished so I'm going to give them a couple more days to make sure the middle of the cake is done.


4:57 PM 3/27/2003 : 5 More cakes birthed today, 4 left going to do them tomorrow or 3/29/2003

3:58 PM 3/29/2003 : Well I lost another cake. My wife's little 1 cake pod made from a 2 liter and a small fish pump and a little geolite used up her last cake so I gave her a SA to grow. The last 3 are in the cold shock dunk.
So the total is 36 jars done all colonized with no contams. 12 given to a friend, 1 to the wife, 23 mine

12:08 PM 3/30/2003 : Last of jars put in

12:02 PM 3/31/2003 : The first 15 cakes are pinning nicely and some have shrooms coming from the bottom.


11:01 AM 4/3/2003 : Things look to be going well.


1:02 AM 4/4/2003 : Took the first flush from four of the cakes. More will be done later today.


5/8/2003 : Total 23 cakes 164 grams dried.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1579885 - 05/27/03 12:15 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Should I invest in setting one of thsee things up? (I say invest because I'd have to spend like $50 to set one up considering I dont really have any of the shit to do it with cept the bin) Or are the yields not that noticeably different? If I'm asking a question that was already answered-sorry, I just didn't see it.
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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: MrSleep]
    #1579909 - 05/27/03 12:22 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

P.S. - Geolite pretty cheap. $2 a pound - cheapest I've found.
http://www.gtghydroponics.com/store/xq/asp/idItem.127/qx/itemdescription.htm
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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: MrSleep]
    #1591511 - 05/30/03 12:26 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

you cant ever really know what to expect as far as yeilds, sometimes they can be poor, sometimes they can be great, although i do encourage the use of this pod, it seems great.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: MrSleep]
    #1592115 - 05/30/03 05:36 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Geolight (bulk)

My friend got his here....... The dam guy sold him the big one. Now he has two
5 gal pails full, left over.

Anyone need some? make my friend a offer.......


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: MrSleep]
    #1596822 - 05/31/03 08:12 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

at 2 dollars a pound how many pouns would one need to fill a BIG ASS rubbermaid?

how many liters = pound??
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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1596826 - 05/31/03 08:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

just use perlite if you cant get geolite.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1596873 - 05/31/03 08:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

There is a product called hydroton, it is the exact same thing as geolite but costs less.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1596993 - 05/31/03 10:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

ive seen just plain ol aquarium rocks work just fine. just boil them first


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1609343 - 06/04/03 10:53 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

this Hydrotron still has the wicking properties of Geolight yes?

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(i dont want perlite or rocks cuz they dont have the properties geolite has (or so im told)



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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1619161 - 06/08/03 10:09 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

would this poor man's pod be suitable for casings as well?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: meatman]
    #1619192 - 06/08/03 10:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Yes


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1619197 - 06/08/03 10:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

thanks magash. i like your idea of this "pod" and think a lot of people will benefit from it. thanks again for sharing man


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: meatman]
    #1633490 - 06/14/03 06:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

In using this tek, but instead of an air pump, using a submersible heater, how hot would you have to make it (60-88) are my settings. See it is the summer, and running the heater at 80, makes fruiting very difficult with little to no temperature drop possible while maintaining 93%. So I am wondering, if I use perlite + water (obviously enough water to insure that the heater is not totaly covered by perlite) with a submersible heater, would I be able to maintain 93% while at the same time, not raising the temp from room temp (75)? As in, previously, I was using just a submersible heater in water at around 88. The chamber was at 82, and the humidity was 94%. So would adding perlite to the equation allow me to run the heater at say, 75, and maintain casabale humitidies?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Pavement]
    #1633700 - 06/14/03 08:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

The heater is not needed. I only use one for like one month a year. There is no other reason other then the temp to use a heater. In fact in the top of the thread where I tell how to put it together I never mention a heater.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1633819 - 06/14/03 10:13 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder if you could use one of those giant five gallon water bottles for a dome.


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    #1635631 - 06/15/03 07:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Just wondering how big were your tubs and about much geolite did you add?


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    #1635824 - 06/15/03 10:25 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

>>I'm wondering which is better; dunking or letting the clay pebbles wick into the cake?

ALWAYS DUNK between flushes...even with a Pod. It makes a HUGE difference...I always dunked my cakes for 12 hours in between flushes in the fridge then put them back in the Pod. Fruit body size and amount of fruit bodies always increased with dunks. The Pod is great for growing from cakes.

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    #1638255 - 06/16/03 09:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the info! I am building a pod right now. I got two questions. Do I put the cakes directly on the Hydroton, and what do I need to do to prepare the Hydroton before putting it in? Oh yeah, one more. Should I use a 0.03% H202 solution for the water in this?


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: shakta]
    #1638339 - 06/16/03 10:11 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the info! I am building a pod right now. I got two questions. Do I put the cakes directly on the Hydroton, and what do I need to do to prepare the Hydroton before putting it in? Oh yeah, one more. Should I use a 0.03% H202 solution for the water in this?

To tell you the truth I've never used H202 with it. Yes put the cake on the hydroton.


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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Boppity604]
    #1638345 - 06/16/03 10:13 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

ALWAYS DUNK between flushes...even with a Pod. It makes a HUGE difference...I always dunked my cakes for 12 hours in between flushes in the fridge then put them back in the Pod. Fruit body size and amount of fruit bodies always increased with dunks. The Pod is great for growing from cakes.

Hell ya you got that right. Always dunk between flushes.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: deanofmean]
    #1639765 - 06/17/03 03:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

just wondering...it looks like theres a light source, did you cut a hole in the lid and attach a light to the top or something? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, i'm just a newb looking to do things right.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Skaloser]
    #1640301 - 06/17/03 07:31 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

theres no need to attach a light onto your terarium, shrooms hardly need any light at all, they could get all the light they ever need just by turning on a flashlight on for a split second.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: A0999]
    #1668333 - 06/28/03 01:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Magash i'd like to see some pictures of your ganja setup if you don't mind, you may want to post it in the pictures forum. Do you have a growroom with ventilation? If not how do you keep the heat down while flushing co2 out? Do you use a hydro system or soil?

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: deanofmean]
    #1676707 - 07/01/03 01:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

It's worth noting that "Geolite" is also sold as "Leca", which I believe is the generic trade name for the rounded expanded clay pellets. People who are having trouble finding "Geolite" might like to try asking for "Leca" or "Hydroleca". The manufacturer's website is http://www.leca.com/engelsk/index.htm .


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Babble]
    #1676747 - 07/01/03 01:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

My bud just put his together. He put to much water in though, cause the pellets are kind of floating in there. Got the airstones hooked up and threw the hygrometer in. I told him that the extra water will evaporate. He won't be birthing his cakes for a few days anyway. That is if the bottoms ever finish colonizing. It has been running for about 10 minutes. How long should it take to get the rh up?


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: shakta]
    #1676767 - 07/01/03 01:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Nevermind. We had it on the minimun reading setting. Just went and looked and it is up to 85% after 15 minutes or so. The top has a very fine mist on it already. This thing is sweet!


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: shakta]
    #1676797 - 07/01/03 01:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)


Hmm im using same system with perlite.. my gauge only reads 85%. that saddens me, some info its a 95 liter sterlite, 2 inches of perlite 1/2 inch water. air stones connected to a fish pump.


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    #1676814 - 07/01/03 01:55 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

It could be your hygrometer too. My buddies is up to 87% now.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: shakta]
    #1677193 - 07/01/03 04:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yea, i dont even bother with those things, most of them are very innacurate at high humidity.....
u can just tell if the humidity is near 100%......
my pod is like a god damn jungle...
air exhange is great too... no probems with stunted shrooms...

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1677363 - 07/01/03 06:08 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Glad you guys like it






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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1678328 - 07/02/03 12:50 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Do you fan at all with this pod? thanks for the help...


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: capnstem]
    #1678553 - 07/02/03 01:59 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

No fanning, the air stones are their for the gas exchange...you just need a hole at the top for the CO2 to get out.

Hey Magash how many gallons is that container? Or the dimensions?


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: DannyBoy]
    #1679002 - 07/02/03 04:23 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

.you just need a hole at the top for the CO2 to get out....



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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: shirley knott]
    #1679012 - 07/02/03 04:26 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Your right actually, but as long as there is a hole somewhere in it then its cool. this was all discussed in this thread before. i mean a hole is a hole, will still allow o2 to get in.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: A0999]
    #1679017 - 07/02/03 04:28 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

oops. it was a long thread, and i went straight to the last page of it! :blush:

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: DannyBoy]
    #1679097 - 07/02/03 05:08 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i dont have a hole at all in my pod, but then again its not really air tight..
the air finds a way to get out....
and since the fresh air is bubbling up from the bottem u dont have to worry about c02 collectiing at the bottem of your pod choking your little mushys

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1682370 - 07/03/03 03:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

The reason the holes are put at the top of the pod on purpose.
The fundamental principal behind using air entrainment is to sufficiently mix the two (fresh air and stale air) together and then re-distribute them back into the environment in a more balanced way that is then more beneficial to the mushroom crop. Without this sufficient mixing of the gasses present within the grow space, the crops will remain stunted and will likely never reach their optimum potential.

With the poor mans pod, the settling co2 air is met and diffused by a curtain of fresh air rising from beneath the Geo-lite surface. This rising flow of air is created from the air diffuser rod situated below the Geo-lite surface, which is powered by the air pump. The rising air pattern not only prohibits the heavier co2 air from settling down onto the bottom surface as usual but it also simultaneously diffuses the co2 with fresh air as it is distributed back into the environment or grow space where it can be put to good use.

In this way, the poor mans pod creates the same desired phenomenon as offered by more conventional means of air entrainment found in much larger-scale commercial applications where a mixing box is commonly used to accomplish this important task.


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    #1705021 - 07/11/03 04:54 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

kramer has fruited a cake or two
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: george castanza]
    #1705439 - 07/11/03 11:54 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

how many and size of hole(s) are there near the top. should the whole be filtered (ie. coffe filter, tyvek)? that tis all
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: BatFly]
    #1705469 - 07/11/03 12:17 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I wish some people would post some pictures of their pods. I don't have a pod, but I sure shit like looking at them. lol. Post more! If you can...
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    #1705513 - 07/11/03 12:44 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

goin to the petland or the 'marts to go get bubble sticks (called em these when we were kids) and an air pump!!!!


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    #1705527 - 07/11/03 12:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

very perdy, where'd you get you lil black hygrometer(?) there in the corner? ha , looks like a car air filter, excelent!


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    #1705600 - 07/11/03 01:19 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Kussh tell Batman I said congrats. You gotta post some pictures when you get those cakes in there! If you would...
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    #1705862 - 07/11/03 02:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: BatFly]
    #1706420 - 07/11/03 05:27 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

how many and size of hole(s) are there near the top. should the whole be filtered (ie. coffe filter, tyvek)?




i dont even bother with holes, i just keep the lid cracked open with a pen....
this fucker puts out so much fuckin humidy i could probably leave the lid OFF and still get like 80%.....

anyways, dont bother worrying about filters over the holes, every time u open your terrarium to fan/remove or replace casings/mist/whatever you are introducing millions and millions of contamns.....

not to worry, your mycellum is developed enuff to fight back....

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    #1706657 - 07/11/03 07:16 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

My friend made his into a suspension chamber. Added a rack made of plastic tinker toys to hang the cakes from like Christmas tree ornaments. In the bottom my friend was wondering if 4 inchis of h20 and some h202 would be cleaner than using perlite or geolite. The cakes hang from the rack so they dont need any solid base to sit on.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: joedownthestreet]
    #1706667 - 07/11/03 07:22 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

the cakes sit ON the geolite.... geolite slowly wicks up water into the cake... feeding it as it grows..... yay....

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    #1706723 - 07/11/03 07:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like a damn awsome setup! can't wait to see how it work for myself, i was goin to just use perlite and water, but then i saw this today and BAM.

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    #1706907 - 07/11/03 09:10 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

BatFly said:
sounds like a damn awsome setup!  can't wait to see how it work for myself, i was goin to just use perlite and water, but then i saw this today and BAM.

(please excuse batfly from the blantant use of "BAM") 




To much Emeril or Batman? :smile:

Look for Hysroton, it is cheaper, and the Perlite bags I found were small for six bucks. My big giant bag of Hydroton was $30 I think.

Edit: I am an idiot. It is Hydroton. 


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: shakta]
    #1707345 - 07/12/03 12:08 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

lemme clarify, i was just gonna use perlite and water, without the bubbly sticks and air pump.


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    #1707884 - 07/12/03 05:25 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

perlite and water works... but u gonna need to fan alot...

hydroton, airdiffusers and airpump works great...
i like it cuz it has a soothing bubbly sound that reminds the mushrooms of their natual habitat...
this way the mushrooms are less jumpy being grown in captivity.... they act alot more like they do in the wild when in the pod....

plus the bubbly water sound makes me want to pee...

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    #1707897 - 07/12/03 05:34 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I?m glad you like it and are having good results.



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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1708149 - 07/12/03 11:27 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Mushrooms have ears? Christ...now I feel guilty eating them.
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    #1715288 - 07/14/03 07:23 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Just wondering, if you were making the "real" thing, does the geo lite sit all the way on the bottom of the oil pan or do you raise it up a little, also how much water is needed to fill up the oil pan, how much water is needed at one time...


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    #1716797 - 07/15/03 01:20 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

they have ears... belive me... ears and emotions and voices too....

oh the screams.... god.. the screams....
i hardly ever sleep anymore...

long after the mushrooms are dead i can still hear their frantic screams...
the pleading.... shrieks and wails from the other side.....
i swear sometimes i can hear them clawing at the walls of the terrarium....
but eventually, the droning buzz in my head always drowns them out...

then the pounding headaches come.... LUB-DUB.... LUB-DUB...
the pain is the only reminder of my existance
LUB-DUB.... LUB-DUB.....
the steady beat of dull throbbing.....
lulling me into unconsciousness

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i think im gonna give up this hobby forever....


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lmao. Good response.
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    #1719130 - 07/15/03 07:58 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I see some of you are using perlite instead of geolite... how is that working out for you? geolite is so DAMN EXPENSIVE! I'm hoping perlite can be used instead. Any thoughts/comments?


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    #1719148 - 07/15/03 08:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Meatman is that Eminem in your avatar? And I was also wondering the same question.
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    #1719198 - 07/15/03 08:24 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

far from mnm
its maynard, and kussh, how is it working out for you?


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    #1720012 - 07/16/03 02:22 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

hydroton is cheap as a batmans mom. I bought 4 gallons for like $15. It's the same thing as geolite, just cheaper. Plus it's reusable. If you can find it, i'd go with that.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: YellowPurpleHills]
    #1720398 - 07/16/03 04:35 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with the above mentioned cat, I wanna hear more testimonies about this setup w/ perlite.

probably still gonna build one anyway :smile:

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    #1721080 - 07/16/03 11:36 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

if you use casing that means the water will not be able to go into the cakes (1 b/c no cakes. 2 b/c not in contact with geolite). will this effect the humidity in the tank or will it not be a problem?


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    #1721805 - 07/16/03 04:10 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

has anyone else had problems with the water and perlite? if i put too much in it floats and the cake trys to topple, if i put too little in, i don't get the droplets on the side of the bin. and i can't seem to get an even medium. although when the level is a lil low, the perlite is still wet, just with no sweaty droplets things.

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    #1721882 - 07/16/03 04:43 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i've done one pod with leca, and will do a couple with perlite. i am doing casings. i'll report back when i get some results.
batfly: do you have a hygrometer or something to measure humidity?


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    #1721925 - 07/16/03 05:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

aight, here's mine
please click on image and read for further whatever...


and



any comments if a "shelf" above the perlite would be helpfull? also just noticed some errors in the pics. it should say thinking of making a chicken mesh (wire) shelf* and the second pic, look, not loock. damn, i should replace my fingers!


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    #1721941 - 07/16/03 05:03 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

nah, my dumb ass needs a hygrometer, but funds are fleeting and bills aren't =(  !  it's ok to not have droplets?  that's the first.  anyone wanna donate a hygrometer?  i think i'll just make a chicken mesh shelf!  sound simple,  and then i can have some kewl bubble action!!!!  hehehehehehehe,  bubbles! :nut:


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    #1721989 - 07/16/03 05:17 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

not complaints,  tis my first cake,  the reason it seems so much for just one cake is actually that it's not.  he's just the prototype to test one so i learn early and don't fuck up the 5 pf tek jars i started once i birthed proto cake.  those pics are from yesturday,  i did even it out today.  need to check muh bank balance,  suggestions for the cheapest hygrometer that i CAN leave in the tank.  i heard of one for $3 but you can't leave it in  :tongue:
and, i like the bubblies, :frown: could i just let there be lots of water. 
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    #1722001 - 07/16/03 05:23 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, i'd change a couple of things too. instead of making a pod with those materials, i'd pipe those airlines into the side, near the top of the tub, so they 'pour' like wind over the cake. tiny hole in the tub wall (screwdriver) should take care of the holes, and i'd use micropore tape all over the airpump wherever the intake(s) may be, seams whatever.

then i'd make another couple of holes, with polyfill or something, low down on the side wall, for CO2 to seep out. just above the perlite level is good. i'd take out any standing water, and spray the perlite with something to keep contams down.

if the perlite is properly wet, you'll have 95%+ and you can do without a hygrometer: by looking at lots of people's pics in growlogs, looking at the condensation on the walls and reading what they write the rH is, you'll learn to judge it.


hope this gave you some ideas. i know it's not making it into a pod, magash style, but then your tub isn't the same shape, and yada yada yada....


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    #1722056 - 07/16/03 05:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I'm using perlite and have the same "problem". RH is very HI so don't worry about it. My perlite seems to be sinking now after a few days. I think ones some of the airbubbles trapped in the perlite are displayed you can push down on the perlite to make is stay down a little better.

I'd imagine hydroleca or whatever it's called would be better due to its weight.


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    #1722093 - 07/16/03 05:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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don't confuse the guy


i agree this wasn't the right thread for me to post these thoughts, as this guy wants to make a pod. but with the materials he's got, i'd do something else.

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    #1722158 - 07/16/03 06:15 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

nah, it's all good. i appreciate any thoughts. the bubble sticks have those suction cups on the bottom so the raise about a third of an inch off the bottom of the bin. so all they'd really do is blow on the perlite. i wanted them to bubble threw the water and perlite, i thought that was the reson for themin the first place. i may be wrong.
anyone know how much chicken wire is? cause i'd think it'd be alot easier to not even have to worry about too little/less water and just put in enough to where i know it's getting humid and worry bout the cakes takin a journey on the missippi!
i'd like to use those red stones but they're too damn expensive, and i already had the perlite.
chicken wire sound like to be my new friend. i got a big pair of wire cutters so i shold be fine.
thanx again everyone!

that bottle is empty, it's just camera fodder, has nothing to do withthe setup, i used it to pour the water in and just didn't remove it from the room.


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    #1722273 - 07/16/03 06:56 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

You don't have to have condensation all over the place for it to be humid. Mine never condensates on the sides and it is always above 95%.


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    #1722289 - 07/16/03 07:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Don't use the suction cups and just lay the wands on the bottom they work just as well.


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    #1722429 - 07/16/03 07:58 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

hehe wands hehe, that'll help a lil
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    #1722736 - 07/16/03 09:11 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Whats the difference between geolite and perlite? Can perlite be substituted for this tek?


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1723356 - 07/17/03 12:32 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

geolite is cheap, look for hyrdokorrels
go to your local hydro shop and buy a hugebag of it for 30$
its enuff to make 2-3 big ass chambers

sorry, but i hate perlite, i used it for so long, it was always sticking to my hands and shit...
it was like fuckin kitty litter..... messy and annoying....


Shirley has a good idea there about putting an air curtan at the top....
i think im gonna get me a splitter.... split the air tubes into 2 more diffusers.... 2 on the top and 2 on the bottem.... im assuming the air pump puts out enuff air to handle 2 air bubble wand thingies..... (well actually 4 of them, i have a double pump)

that way the air will be really mixed up good.....

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    #1723529 - 07/17/03 01:25 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I think I will do this too. I don't think I am getting enough air exchange. The last ones were pretty small, especially after they were dried.


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    #1723563 - 07/17/03 01:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The right airexchange for the chamber is 2 to 3 times a hour. So make sure that your pump can put out enough to do this and you?ll be set.



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    #1723595 - 07/17/03 01:49 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Time to do some math then. :smile:


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    #1724015 - 07/17/03 06:13 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

um, what would the formula for that look likie"?

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Very nice write-up!


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um, what would the formula for that look likie"?




I guess you would first need to get the open space volume of the terrarium. So, to do that multiply the length x width x height. That will get you the volume. I will do it in feet. I would not include the height of the box that is filled with perlite or whatever in the calculation. That should give you it's total cubic feet capacity (or whatever unit of measurement you are using). Then you just need a pump that can double or triple that puts out two or three times that volume of air per hour. Does this sound correct to anyone?


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just keep the air pump on all the time and you cant go wrong i guess. i could be wrong though


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    #1724522 - 07/17/03 12:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

No , you can go wrong. I did a few independent tests on air pumps. I bought a big ass whisper double air pump for 20 dollars. It took it about 30 mins to fill up a 2.5 gallon freezer bag. I am suspect about these air pumps, I think you need an automated computer fan. You would need a super accurate timer though, like one that could be shut off every 5 mins.


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    #1724557 - 07/17/03 01:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

why cant you keep it on all the time? i dont see how it is a problem as long as you keep your humidity at the right level and temperature


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    #1725269 - 07/17/03 05:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

alright,  fixed my wet perlite bubbly problem!
got a lil bored so i picked up a wire hanger (has plastic around it), my stapler, and some left over screen i had sittin around.  Bent the hanger, measured a lil wrong so it came out trapazoidal (stylized i call it).  laid the screen on top, cut it about half inch bigger on all sides.  cut off the corners, and stapled the screen on while pulling on it to keep it tight.  and after a shitload of lysol spraying here's the result....


and with PROTOCAKE sittin high and dry, but HUMID :smile:



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kewl, thanx man, was wondering if i should do that!


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    #1725371 - 07/17/03 06:12 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

there will be, as soon as the ones i knocked up are fully colonized. he's the test dummy. he knows it. he's also gettin a big check for goin it solo! some times he does look a lil frightened, but i tell him it's ok, and soon he'll have shroomies to talk too.


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    #1725441 - 07/17/03 06:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Keep the lid. Fill it with verm. The cake will be above the perlite so it won't be able to draw moisture from it. It will work without the lid but you want big shrooms right?


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    #1725467 - 07/17/03 06:42 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i just want shrooms period!
doesn't matter if they're big or not, if they are small, i eat a bunch, if they are ginormous, then i eat one or whatever. so it doesn't really matter to me. also, there's verm in the lid from the top layer that was in the jar right now, and the white inside the jar lid is a lil bit of perlite from when i wlaked into my room at just the right time before protocake almost took a dive. ok, so now it's time for input, leave the cake on the lid with the verm, or take it off and place it on the screen? or could i put moist verm on the screen and then protocake?

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    #1725476 - 07/17/03 06:45 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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    #1725480 - 07/17/03 06:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

there was more than one question!!! do it ? which one? leave it in the lid? take it out by itself? put verm on screen then cake?


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    #1725508 - 07/17/03 06:56 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

makes a good handle too IMO
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Leave it on the lid. Magash is the man!


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    #1725527 - 07/17/03 07:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

in the lid it is, thanks to all for the help!!! i've said it before and i'll say it again, you all rock!


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    #1732235 - 07/20/03 02:18 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Awsome glad you like it. Cool pics you have there to.
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1745911 - 07/24/03 10:06 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Lo All, I'm basicly a beginner, I realize this thread is very long. I'm hoping some one will see my post...This looks like a great idea, and of course it must be for this many folks to post good results....

Althoug i'm still a little confussed. I'm don't know what geolite is, but see you can use perlite instead. Now to what i'm confused about. If one was to use perlite instead of geolite, would one but the air stones on the bottom and cover with wet perlite? And if so do you put the cakes on the lids or somthing? It seems to me by the pics that there is much more water in there then that(if this right what keeps the cakes from sinking into the water and perlite or geolite, if that is what one used? I hope this has made since...If not, let me know and i'll try to clear my question. Thanks a lot.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Freedom420]
    #1745931 - 07/24/03 10:12 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"don't know what geolite is" It is clay balls that are used in hydroponics. They can be found at hydro shops. For this use they are much easier to use but can be costly compared to perlite. In the long run it costs less cause it can be reused.

"would one but the air stones on the bottom and cover with wet perlite?"
Yes. Just make the water layer deeper.

With perlite it's better to use lids with the geolite you can put he cakes right on it.


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    #1746133 - 07/24/03 11:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

OK so heres an update on my pod.....

i find the air exchange to be inadequate for caseings.... due to the fact that casings do not rest directly on the geolite.....
(they are in buckets or tubs some several inches from the bottem)

tho the humidity is consistant, and the geolite roxxors (no more perlite sticking to EVERYTHING)

So, in order to make up for this lack of oxygen, ive decided to install ANOTHER double fish pump, this time instead of buying diffuser rods (im too cheap) i will be using plastic sheets taped up into tubes, with little pin holes poked in it....
i will have these bags on the top of the chamber blowing fresh air DOWN onto my casings! yay!!!

(BTW i stole this idea from Una (mush-mush).... i will be doing pan cyans soon, so i need Uber air exchange..... and cubies dont mind it either :smile: )

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1750213 - 07/26/03 06:41 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

ya kno, i just realised somethin, you dont even NEED those air diffuser rods.... (bubbly air sticks/bubble wands whatever)

all ya gotta do is plug up the airline tubeing and poke little holes in it....
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1750379 - 07/26/03 11:09 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

My friend had a set up that originally had just perlite and an air tube going under the perlite to stir up the perlite/water for more humidification and air flow. But then he found an air diffuser and put that it in. He says the results seem the same, but thinks they would be much better with geolite.
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    #1750643 - 07/26/03 02:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

hey, you just gave me a good idea. run tubing off of 2 pumps. make them go along the bottom in 's' formation, like swaying snakes, with a bunch of tiny holes! alot more even flow of air, and the 2 pumps could hurt! hmmmmmmm, i like our thinking!


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    #1750722 - 07/26/03 02:54 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Hmmm...I don't think it'd be any more even, probably less even. Since the two diffusers make a curtain of air that are paralell to each other, and they aren't just shooting air up straight out of those tubes, it's spreading out all along the surface of the geolite. From what I understand.
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    #1755161 - 07/28/03 07:18 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i just use a "double fish pump"....

im gonna use 2 of them very soon.... one with the air diffusers in the bottem, and one with the tubing in the top...

i want to use the tubing for the top so i can adjust its height as needed.... i can lower it and raise it as the mushys grow....

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: MrSleep]
    #1755934 - 07/28/03 01:27 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

well, now that i reread my post, i would like to rephrase, it'd make for greater air dispertion over a larger area undrr teh perlite instead of just around the bubble wands.

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    #1755943 - 07/28/03 01:29 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

S'all good, yeah I see what you're saying.
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
    #1759176 - 07/29/03 11:01 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Last night, I decided to setup a pod similar to this. Having been accused of "making things up" after requesting geolite at the store, I purchased a bag of perlite and a hygrometer. For the sake of curiosity (and still having at least a week until cakes can be birthed), I setup the pod absent of either perlite or geolite.

Instead, I filled the bottom with 5 inches of plain water. At the bottom of the pod are two of the round air-stones, rather than those air-stone rods. This pod is round and deep, made from two cake lids, the dome type (the sort you find at a bakery). My hygrometer read 88% after an hour. 99% was observed the following morning, with a small amount of condesation on the walls of the pod.

Assuming this reading to be correct, I decided I would install a low-sitting suspended wire shelf on which to place the cakes. Being absent of perlite, the water would not evaporate quite so quickly, and therefore this pod would be more tolerant of neglect. I am leaving town for seventeen days come August 8th. I will not be present to replenish exhausted perlite. Mycellium permitting, I will birth cakes into the pod on Aug 7. They will not be tended to until Aug 25. Is perlite absolutely necessary? Can it be prepared in such a way that it will continue to offer humidity for seventeen days?

Being new to this whole ordeal, and having observed FAQ's and threads, it seems that perlite or geolite are thought of as somewhat essential. How true is this? Is my hygrometer miscalibrated?

Also, the two dome lids I'm using certainly are not air tight. I assumed this would be fine, as it allows gas to escape. Reading through this thread, though, it's been said that air is best ventilated through the top of the pod. Should I re-evaluate my entire approach, discard the dome lids and acquire a sealable square tupperware container? A container of this sort would not be condusive to my living space requirements.

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Ped]
    #1765377 - 07/31/03 09:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i think your better off with perlite or geolite/hydroton/hydrokorrels than just water, the perlite/geolite puts out alot more humidity....

dont worry about having to re-wet the perlite/geolite, i think ive re-plenished my water once every 2 months, and i could have easily have gone 3 months....

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: World Spirit]
    #1765384 - 07/31/03 09:42 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I saw your links on the first page to get the air thingy underneath the geolite, but when I clicked on the link it looks nothing like what's in your pics. What is the whole tubing piece called w/the "air stones"? Can someone put up a link to get this product exactly as-is?





dude...
airline tubing is just that AIR, LINE, TUBING, its a plastic tube, that air flows through.
the "air-stones" are not what u want, you want a "flexible air diffuser" or a "bubble wand" or a "bubble curtain"
its the stick that sits on the bottem of the pod....

i dont have the links,
just go to a pet store and figure it out...
simple as pie...

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1765458 - 07/31/03 10:30 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

...damn airstones don't work? i bought 2 and already have it set up waiting to birth my jars...


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    #1765833 - 07/31/03 01:37 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Kwhat Is that brown ball substrate Your usiNG!?


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    #1765894 - 07/31/03 01:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

you wouldnt need to spray .wiTh this method right?


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    #1766956 - 07/31/03 07:23 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

No spraying needed.


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    #1766980 - 07/31/03 07:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I must be a part of this wonderful thread so I'll just say that when I get a chance I'm going to build myself my very own wonderfully wonderful Poor Man's Pod.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Skaloser]
    #1767002 - 07/31/03 07:40 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I setup the pod and filled it with 10:1 H2O2:H2O. Underneath the perlite is one of these:



It's a small, square pod, using a 10" variety of that airstone accessory running diagonally from corner to corner. It doesn't seem to be offering much air. There are bubbles rising through the perlite layer, but they are few and not very rapid. It sounds like a pot of soup on a very low simmer.

I suppose the low air flow could have to do with my pump. I maintain a 10 gallon aquarium, with a bubble curtain connected to a pump rated for 10 gallon aquariums. To supply my pod with air, I used a two-way hose connector and a flow regulator to supply air to both the pod and the aquarium. The flow regulator is set in such a way that air is favoured toward the pod, but this seems not to be enough. I'm not certain if I wish to spend money on a larger pump.

How much air should I be observing through the perlite? Should it be a bubbly frenzy, a mild splutter, or that which I described? Can I get away with low airflow, so long as it is constant?


Edit: btw, I really recommend silicon airline tubing. It is very flexible, and doesn't try to coil back up on you, lifing your air stone out from under your perlite/geolite. It's the same price or cheaper, and will save you a lot of hassle.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Ped]
    #1767508 - 07/31/03 11:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

your gonna need a new pump fo' sure
get something BIG BIG BIG...
atleast a DOUBLE fishy pump

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    #1768117 - 08/01/03 03:21 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

You want a pump that can exchange the full amount of your chamber 2 to 3 times per hour. Sounds like a lot but remember as long as the humidity is up you don't have to worry about to much air exchange. remember these things live outside.


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    #1768835 - 08/01/03 11:41 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

the never ending threeeeeead
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: BatFly]
    #1768939 - 08/01/03 12:38 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Okay. I bought a pump rated for 5 gallon aquariums and took my aquarium off the line. The aquarium is running on the smaller pump (which actually looks a lot better than it did), and the pod on the previous pump. Air flow has increased significantly. Birthing in three or four days.



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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Ped]
    #1769055 - 08/01/03 01:21 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Ped I bought the EXACT same air stones and they just plain fucking suck! You're pobably going to have to shell out a few more bucks and buy a bubble wand.


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    #1769383 - 08/01/03 02:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

:crazy2:  Haha, yeah I felt the same way when I tested mine out in the sink.  Bubbles came out of three spots instead of all through.  I was pretty irritated.  I stabbed at it with a pin for a while, and that seemed to help.  I have two bubble wands in my aquarium right now, and they're fantastic.  The bullshit stone I already have sunk underneath all the wet perlite.  I really don't feel like fighting with that stuff any more than I have to.  It's a small pod, I think this will be okay. 

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Ped]
    #1769771 - 08/01/03 04:20 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

5 gallons??
Hmm depending on the size of your pod that may not be enuff...
i have a 50 and an 80 running in mine....
about standard rubbermaid size...

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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1769822 - 08/01/03 04:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The 5 gallon pump is running on the 10 gallon aqaurium. The 10 gallon pump is running on the single air stone. The pod is large enough to fit four cakes, five if I make it tight. It is very small. I just can't afford to spend sixty dollars on god damn air pumps.


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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Ped]
    #1769864 - 08/01/03 04:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

o i c, your chamber is small then.....

my setup is a bit excessive perhaps, but cubies LOVE fresh air, they absolutely adore it.

and i have some pan cyans comin up, so im gonna need all the air i can get....

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    #1769902 - 08/01/03 04:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The Profile 5500 works great for most rubbermaid pods.

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    #1772653 - 08/02/03 01:26 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

This is one of the most amazing MC threads of all time!

Started 2/12/03 and has been on the front page for almost 7 months!

Hats off to Magash!

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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
    #1777830 - 08/04/03 11:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry about chiming in late - I only now found this thread and have just got done reading every single post. You ROCK!

I have a few (probably stupid) questions for you:

1) I recall in the pf tek and the MMGG that they recommended shielding the cakes from the fine mist generated by the air bubblers. Is that not really an issue with this setup? Was (is) the pf tek wrong about that part? Do the cakes ever get too moist?

2) What's the deal with the bell cloche?? Does it factor into this setup at all and if so, how?

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