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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: ngnyus]
#9998700 - 03/18/09 11:59 PM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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Edited by openmind (03/10/14 07:31 PM)
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Goody
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: openmind]
#10005050 - 03/19/09 11:00 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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To give you an idea of just where Datura will grow 'wild', I got my first strammonium plant at the local tip. It was growing wild along this dump site where there were all cracked bricks & rocks amidst the soil...So I dug down deep below the roots and pulled her out, took her home and put her in a pot with some pretty generic grade soil & within days she sprang back from the dead and grew to a nice healthy size!
Then my mate tried to help me put her in the ground and yeah, she's not around anymore .
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durian_2008
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: Goody]
#10006682 - 03/20/09 09:12 AM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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I wonder whether the roots resent being compacted?
Everyone says to look in rich, stirred-up places, and this is my experience, too.
It grows in loose flower beds or in planters with potting soil.
I've noticed that it's perennial roots eventually get long and tuberous. This may be why it needs the extra room.
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: Burbles]
#10007279 - 03/20/09 11:29 AM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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Wow, he asks help finding it and people start firing off warnings, and telling about the bad trips. They need a dose of shut the fuck up. Don't preach about the toxicity to me, I know, and wont mention any facts because it has been said by so many people it is annoying.
I wish I could help, I look around here, it's a pretty plan't but I see none in Michigan.
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: doom876]
#10008152 - 03/20/09 02:06 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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You're firing your mouth off, as a forum we have to advise people on responsibility, we may not care if the person gets sick/dies, but it reflects badly on us if we say go take x amount of y plant and the person does. Jesus, if we didn't tell each person passing through here not to take datura based solely on what someone else did we would get some attention from some hospitals/cops.
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Goody
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Good point, I can't imagine a plant like Datura would like to be restricted as it grows just about anywhere & this is probably indicated by it's lengthy root mass...I think they enjoy loose soil too, the tipfront I found her on wasn't compacted much, I dunno but, i've got a mate who suggests planting them into really shitty, well drained & loose soil.
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: Goody]
#10009259 - 03/20/09 05:18 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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The fact is, everyone says it, so there is no need to be a bunch of parrots when he said not to warn him. It's on every datura thread
Do the links not work for anyone else? They just send ma back to this page. I kinda wanna know where it grows.
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: doom876]
#10009315 - 03/20/09 05:30 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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dj... is new, sometimes the new people don't always read past threads. There is no point in flaming us for giving somebody a warning he may or may not have heard. I would rather know the consequences then have people stay quiet about it, which is one of the major problems with drug regulation today, is that there is no real assessment and education about what exactly drugs do and don't do.
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durian_2008
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: doom876]
#10009345 - 03/20/09 05:39 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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doom876 said: The fact is, everyone says it, so there is no need to be a bunch of parrots when he said not to warn him. It's on every datura thread
Do the links not work for anyone else? They just send ma back to this page. I kinda wanna know where it grows.
At the risk of parroting you, I agree in full.
We have a Disneyland ride, () called Splash Mountain. The vultures at the top tell people they're gonna be sorry.
We say we don't want someone to have a bad trip, but we intimidate the hell out of people.
djtrickdog asked a reasonably specific question and said he was aware of the dangers.
I think Datura prefers a certain range in temperatures, moisture level, and elevations.
As you head southward, into the sandier, drier, low desert, Datura plants get less frequent, IMHO, less bushy, more weedy. These are the tough, fibrous ones I wrote about.
Datura is sighted, oftentimes, from the I-10 / 60 interchange, eastward, into Cabazon. 2000-3000ft range in elevation. Lowlands and at the base of foothills, especially in floodplanes, for all the aforementioned reasons of soil preference. Infrequent, surface-deep frosts, and occasional rain. Higher quality.
Also occurs in ravines between the Inland Empire and beach cities in warmer, marine climates. Best quality.
Off the side of the road, through the central plane area, on the I-5 and 395. You can tell that the dirt gets stirred up by grading. Occasional moisture from freeway landscaping or farming.
Less frequently into the higher, colder elevations of the Shasta area and Oregon.
Edited by durian_2008 (03/20/09 05:48 PM)
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I guess we should all be quiet next time someone posts about consuming/searching for datura or other such dangerous plants.
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durian_2008
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: Burbles]
#10012844 - 03/21/09 10:07 AM (15 years, 1 day ago) |
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djtrickdog said: Please do not tell me the risks, I am well aware of them, and I am taking caution when experimenting with this plant.
Likewise, if someone had started a discussion on the risks, and asked us NOT to tell people where to find the stuff, I would try to be polite.
For me, it's just a matter of what people are open to discussing.
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HarveyWalbanger
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I dont really care if he wanted the warnings or not....
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MercuryDrinker
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: djtrickdog]
#10014335 - 03/21/09 02:27 PM (15 years, 1 day ago) |
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Just grow the stuff. Jimson weed is the only entheogenic plant Ive successfully grown. I only watered the thing once every week but it still grew like mad.
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: durian_2008]
#10019119 - 03/22/09 11:07 AM (15 years, 10 hours ago) |
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durian_2008 said: To answer the question on where it is found, I agree with the people who said to look for stirred up places.
For a time, Datura was associated with whites, because it liked the richer soil of their garbage heaps.
In my area, the plants were all over -- between a former dump and cemetery, on the collapsing walls of a wash. When there were warm fogs, the smell was indescribable.
Cemetery datura is the creapiest thing I've ever seen. I want my body to be used as fertalizer for datura or Banisteriopsis caapi. And I will bless the plant so that anybody ingesting it will have the most amazing experience of there lives.
I believe datura grows in disturbed areas because it tries and heal this world, and hopes anybody dumping there shit will maby eat it, and never dump there shit again...
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durian_2008
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: The Centre]
#10019469 - 03/22/09 12:15 PM (15 years, 9 hours ago) |
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In some philosophies, principalities find the crossroads - in general, any place where streams of energy converge.
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed *DELETED* [Re: djtrickdog]
#19667674 - 03/08/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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Post deleted by TequmsehReason for deletion: it is inappropriate, and the knowledge expressed is unwanted
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theMallacht
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Re: Hunting down Jimson weed [Re: Tequmseh]
#19668004 - 03/08/14 02:51 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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This is a 4 yr old thread man... Next time just start a new one with your discussion info. Bumping old threads is not against the rules, just kind of frowned upon.
The OP (Original Poster) in this thread hasn't been around for 4 years, 1 month. So, he's unlikely to see your msg regarding his quest for Datura anyway.
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