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naptha not separating from bark mixture?
    #9960110 - 03/12/09 06:29 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

im in the process of a simple dmt extraction

(~2500ml of water + ~250g NaOH + 450g ground bark + multiple ~400ml naptha additions)

for my first naptha extraction, i put in approximately 400 ml naptha, just mixed it a while over the course of a day or so, and then used a turkey baster to take the naptha off. there was no problem

then, i added 500ml of naptha. mixed it and this time heated it slightly over  the course of a day or two. no problem again, i was able to get the ~500ml naptha layer off.

i added another 500 ml of naptha. i mixed a lot again and heated two times, but then noticed that the bark wasnt settling as much. i waited a while but was only to get ~300ml of naptha off it.

i add another ~400 ml of naptha. i mixed not so much. after a day of letting it rest, i noticed it still looks very shallow. beneath the layer of naptha, there is a creamy brown layer of the bark mixture. beneath that, there is the normal dark brown and slick mixture. this is where i am now.

****basically my problem is some naptha has seemed to combined with the bark mixture somehow. i let it rest for awhile but it doesnt want to settle completely. should i just wait a lot longer without stirring? should i maybe discard the top, smooth, lighter brown layer of bark mixture?

and why did this happen? im assuming from overmixing/mashing or improper heating.

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: SPB]
    #9960147 - 03/12/09 06:35 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

way too much naptha i think, gonna be a pain to precipitate,

i'm not sure about why it's not rising to the top,

thats odd


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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: pfxtc]
    #9960226 - 03/12/09 06:43 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

in this method i just air dry the naptha in a glass pan, then scrape up the dmt and use freeze/cool cycle if necesary

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: pfxtc]
    #9961409 - 03/12/09 09:41 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

that amount of naptha should be fine, 1ml per gram of root bark is usually the norm, so don't think thats your problem.
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way too much naptha i think, gonna be a pain to precipitate,

i'm not sure about why it's not rising to the top,

thats odd




That amount of naptha is fine. 1 ml. per gram of rootbark is the norm.


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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
    #9961792 - 03/12/09 10:35 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

From my experience using 1 ml per gram leads to the naphtha not being concentrated enough with DMT so freeze precipitation is useless unless you evaporate a lot of it down before hand, which can take quite a lot of time. That's just my experience though.


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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: pfxtc]
    #9964766 - 03/13/09 01:08 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

i just took off as much as i could (about 400ml)

im gunna let it sit awhile and see if any more naptha rises (theres still like 300 or 400 ml unaccounted for in the mixture)

if it does finally rise up im assuming it would be packed with dmt... but i dont think that will happen.

i think either
a. the creamy lighter brown layer is 'blocking' the naptha from all floating to the top (unlikely imo)
or
b. the naptha combined with the mixture to create that creamy brown layer.

im debating on removing the light brown layer

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: SPB]
    #9965070 - 03/13/09 02:00 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

i'm  kinda bummed,

i finally got my naphtha evaporated and nothing :frown:

and my idiot roomate through away the mixture of bark and lye and water so I'm out $80 :frown:


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: pfxtc]
    #9970042 - 03/14/09 12:09 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

irregardless, im still gettin some sweet crystals out of this



thats the first ~400ml naphtha extraction. 4 more after this, and after they are all dry i will purify them. :grin:

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: SPB]
    #9970322 - 03/14/09 01:04 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

The "creamy" layer is an emulsion, a mixture of solvent and water, adding common table salt to the mixture will help seperate the emulsion and the salt will end up in the water, not the solvent.

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: ripperz]
    #9970982 - 03/14/09 03:09 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

thanks ill try that

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: SPB]
    #9971166 - 03/14/09 03:46 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

You're welcome.

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: ripperz]
    #9971661 - 03/14/09 05:05 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

the salt seems to be helping

was the emulsion a result of mixing too much?

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Re: naptha not separating from bark mixture? [Re: SPB]
    #9971690 - 03/14/09 05:09 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Those are indeed sweet looking crystals! Hope you enjoy them when the time is right.


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