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    #997140 - 10/27/02 05:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Recently two more fighter jets crashed into one another durring training exercises... That brings this months total to 1 cargo plane, 2 F18's and 2 F16's and a grnd total of more than 3 Billion dollars.

If the comercial airline industry had as many accidents as our military they would be shut down by the government for public safety... Why is it that the Military can get away with all of this at the expence of US tax dollars?

Does Canada have this problem too? I mean do you constantly hear about military blunders and airplain crashes?


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Re: Our military.... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #997204 - 10/27/02 05:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Not as much, if only for the reason that we don't have as many aircraft to crash. Although our "Sea King" helicopters are infamous for mechanical failures...mainly because they are so old, and the Government doesn't have the money to replace them.


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Re: Our military.... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #997207 - 10/27/02 05:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

new zealand did it best. they only had about 5 planes in their airforce, all of which were getting old.
3 crashed in 1 year, so they disbanded the airforce. had better things to spend their money on, apparently.


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Re: Our military.... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #997485 - 10/27/02 07:46 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah, the only thing we hear about our military is that everything is so old, it barely works.

Canada's lack of a military is quite an interesting situation. A lot of Canadians are of the opinion that we don't need one because since the USA has it's fingers on every Canadian resource anyways, it's like the've already taken us over as far as they are concerned. Only they don't have to go to the trouble of governing us. For USA, it's actually better than outright annexation. They have access to this territory, with no responsibilities to it's residents.

So, if Canada was to be attacked, it would be a threat to US interests...which would result in US army protecting those interests.

If Canada wanted to be assertive militarily, the first country affected would be USA. Since we can never hope to match the USA's military might, we're resinged to this present situation.

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Re: Our military.... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #997957 - 10/27/02 10:15 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

****Does Canada have this problem too?****

the Canadian airforce is comprised of Eagles, Owls and a squad of flying squirls....

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Re: Our military.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #998435 - 10/27/02 11:45 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

In the 50's Canada had the best fighter jet in the world. The Avrow Arrow. You all probably know the story. It was a triumph of Canadian engineering. On it's test flights, it nearly broke the worlds record for airplane speed. Futer models were to have redesigned engines, that WOULD have made them the fastest airplane ever to fly.

After closed door meetings with Washington, the engineers came to work one morning to find their airplanes sawed up with a blowtorch. All the skilled engineers were given jobs in the USA, working for NASA or the American air force. The government ceased the Arrow program, and Avrow went from making world class planes to making pots and pans.

The reason given to the public at the time was that in the age of missles, air forces are redundant(as if). Canada spent the rest of money on NORAD instead, which turned out to be a TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY.

Just the USA fuckin with us cuz they can. THEY wanted to be the dominant air power of North America. Of course we fell into line. Since then, we've pretty much given up on having a military. Just as well I say, though wasting the Arrow is a waste of Canadian heritage


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Re: Our military.... [Re: carbonhoots]
    #999167 - 10/28/02 05:35 AM (15 years, 30 days ago)

This tactic used by the government is called body washing, and is an effective way to cover up the ways in which our soldiers die. Essentially, the army puts a bunch of already dead people on a plane and has it crash. No covering up to be done really -- quick, easy, and convenient.


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Re: Our military.... [Re: carbonhoots]
    #999253 - 10/28/02 07:12 AM (15 years, 30 days ago)

****All the skilled engineers were given jobs in the USA****

it sucks when foreigners take work..that sucks

***Just the USA fuckin with us cuz they can***

just a little NAFTA-esque if ya ask me..sucks don't it?

****THEY wanted to be the dominant air power of North America. *****

even with that design we would of still been dominent...one design does not a military make.



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