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Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken
    #9969534 - 03/14/09 10:29 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Hi there,

I know potency is genetic, but I've read that younger / smaller shrooms are more potent that bigger ones. In the case of Marijuana, the same applies: younger plants are often more potent.

Is this true for shrooms? I'm saving my 3rd flush for spore printing, but I'd like to eat the shrooms afterwards. Do they loose potency once the caps are fully mature, open and dropping spores? Or are they just as suited for tripping as any other shroom?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: fraggy]
    #9969567 - 03/14/09 10:40 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

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In the case of Marijuana, the same applies: younger plants are often more potent.






Not true, a well matured plant harvested at the optimum time based on trichome color will always be the most potent.

As for the shrooms, the general consensus is that shrooms are most potent by weight just before the veil breaks.

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: ripperz]
    #9969632 - 03/14/09 10:55 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

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In the case of Marijuana, the same applies: younger plants are often more potent.






Not true, a well matured plant harvested at the optimum time based on trichome color will always be the most potent.

As for the shrooms, the general consensus is that shrooms are most potent by weight just before the veil breaks.





I was under the assumption that the highest potency would be achieved by harvesting abort sized mushrooms.

I think the potency is effected because the ability if the mushroom to get bigger through capillary action is more adept than its ability to produce psilos.

However just eat the mushy and trip, I think everyone worries too much about this.  If it is dank, it is dank, end of story.  Whether the veil is torn after that is kind of negligible.  Just my .02.

Small pot plants however have NO potency, as they have NO buds on them.  As the individual before me stated, the trichrome color v potency is the best way to get the highest potency bud.  Looking through a 30x mag jeweler's loop is the way to go.


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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #9970028 - 03/14/09 12:07 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

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Not true, a well matured plant harvested at the optimum time based on trichome color will always be the most potent.





I agree with what you said above, but that's not what I mean. You didn't get my point.

I was speaking about the age of a plant, not about its stages the flowering. For example: a plant that has been given 4 years to mature (before being forced to flower) will be much less potent than a 6 months old seedling. That would be because the older plant will have used a lot of resources to grow that big, old and wise.

THC production is said to be highest in young plants, that are hurrying towards their sexual maturity.

Of course when a plant has no bud, there is only little potency and nothing much to harvest, you silly! I know something about growing ganja :tongue: as a matter of fact, my fingers are very green :rastamon: and I'm using a 20x mag to check my trichomes :grin:

Half a joint of my own homegrown blows me away and I used to smoke daily.

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: fraggy]
    #9970053 - 03/14/09 12:12 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Who would veg a plant for four years? That's just irrelavent.

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: ripperz]
    #9970093 - 03/14/09 12:21 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

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Who would veg a plant for four years? That's just irrelavent.




Correct, 4 years is irrelevant, but I exaggerated a "bit" to make clear what I meant (since it was misinterpreted in the first post).

Losing potency because of veg time would make a difference for the choice of your indoor setup: if you have only one lamp available, it's better to put 12 small plants instead of 6 big ones. Catch my drift? :rastamon:

But this losing of potency is only "hearsay". Would be nice to have this confirmed with real numbers of THC %.

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: fraggy]
    #9970120 - 03/14/09 12:26 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

It's dependent on root mass, a large plant with a small rootmass will produce less yeild but not noticably less potent buds than an equal size plant with a large root mass.

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: ripperz]
    #9970239 - 03/14/09 12:49 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

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It's dependent on root mass, a large plant with a small rootmass will produce less yeild but not noticably less potent buds than an equal size plant with a large root mass.




Yep, I agree. Now we are talking the difference between total THC content and relative THC content. Of course the bigger the bud, the bigger the THC content. More yield means more mass and thus more THC... Best combo is highest possible potency with highest possible yield. Bigbudd x AK47 would be a nice cross :wink:

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: fraggy]
    #9970273 - 03/14/09 12:56 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

That would be nice, I had a jack herer x ak that produced some dripping donkey cocks.  Bud rot was an issue though especially in the damp winter time, giant buds can be annoying in that regard.  Nothing more heart breaking than breaking open a huge cola to find it full of grey mould.

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: fraggy]
    #9970274 - 03/14/09 12:56 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

post in cultivation for better answers.


Cubes are Cubes.:shrug:

They're all good!:rockon:

Strains vary slightly in potency, something that would be very hard to notice.

Aborts are more potent.....but why would you want to grow a bunch of aborts? Just let the fruits flush and harvest them as they are.


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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: sandman_130]
    #9970299 - 03/14/09 01:00 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

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Just let the fruits flush and harvest them as they are.





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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: ripperz]
    #9970355 - 03/14/09 01:10 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

yeah, we were going off topic here. But according to http://www.maps.org/old_forum/1998/msg00139.html: Psilocybin content drops rapidly when the spores ripen.

I'll trip on those shrooms after spore printing anyway, just to make sure we don't waste anything :cool:

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Re: Newbie question: potency of shrooms with veils broken [Re: fraggy]
    #9970371 - 03/14/09 01:12 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

They'll still work just fine and the spore patterns that form on the caps of the lower shrooms are beautiful.

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