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MillionDollarLSD
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Ayahuasca cooking?
#9959108 - 03/12/09 03:53 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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So my first attempt at cooking some Caapi and chacruna was a fail. Im sure I used the right amount of ingredients, 50g of each. I also had some vinegar to lower the PH abit. What temperature are you suppose to cook it at? Its not supposed to boil, like BOIL boil, right? How should the water behave? My ayahuasca was really brown, and not orange/reddish brown like Ive heard its supposed to be. Anyone?
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Wapakz
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Join the club, my ayahuasca brews suck monkey balls.
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MillionDollarLSD
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: Wapakz]
#9962576 - 03/13/09 12:58 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't want to join the club. Come on, somebody around here must have some advice!
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thedudenj
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mine rulez. any who use fresh fruit rather then vinegar.
any who its all about the magic maybe your not wicked magical
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MillionDollarLSD said: So my first attempt at cooking some Caapi and chacruna was a fail. Im sure I used the right amount of ingredients, 50g of each. I also had some vinegar to lower the PH abit. What temperature are you suppose to cook it at? Its not supposed to boil, like BOIL boil, right? How should the water behave? My ayahuasca was really brown, and not orange/reddish brown like Ive heard its supposed to be. Anyone?
How do you know it was a failure? Just based on color???? Brown is probably fine. I've read many accounts of aya being reduced (by boiling) to "a thick, brown brew."
Did you take any?? The proof is in the pudding, as they say. It's supposed to taste absolutely putrid, BTW.
I have all the ingredients, just waiting for my wife to go to visit her cousin to brew up some.
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Mr.Al
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You are not IMO using enough caapi or chacruna. You could consider adding perhaps 20 grams of diploterys carabrena to the mix.
I recommend the following for one person: (This is enough to redose once or twice during the experience for multiple projectile vomiting episodes) 200 grams of caapi, 100 grams of psychotria virdis, and 20 grams of diploterys.
Cook the entire thing in a stock pot for 24 hours. Just above a light simmer is good. If you cook it that long you won't have to acidify the water.
Make sure you keep the Ayahuasca down for a half hour before yarfing. Often if you start to "feel nauseous" that means you have somewhere between 4 and 20 seconds to find a safe direction to purge.
I recommend a sitter for a first time Ayahuasca experience. B.T.W. freebase D.M.T. at the peak F.T.W.!
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: Nature Boy]
#9965124 - 03/13/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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MillionDollarLSD said: So my first attempt at cooking some Caapi and chacruna was a fail. Im sure I used the right amount of ingredients, 50g of each. I also had some vinegar to lower the PH abit. What temperature are you suppose to cook it at? Its not supposed to boil, like BOIL boil, right? How should the water behave? My ayahuasca was really brown, and not orange/reddish brown like Ive heard its supposed to be. Anyone?
How do you know it was a failure? Just based on color???? Brown is probably fine. I've read many accounts of aya being reduced (by boiling) to "a thick, brown brew."
Did you take any?? The proof is in the pudding, as they say. It's supposed to taste absolutely putrid, BTW.
I have all the ingredients, just waiting for my wife to go to visit her cousin to brew up some.
N.B.
I know it was a failure because I tried it. The taste was very bitter, but not as awful I'd imagined it to be. Anyways, I'm trying again tomorrow, wish me luck!
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pfxtc
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i'm using syrian rue and mhrb for ayahuasca soon,
hopefully i get it right
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: pfxtc]
#9965209 - 03/13/09 02:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good luck !
I have around 100 gram of Caapi and Chacruna waiting for me. I'm just waiting for the snow to melt haha and the soil to dry a bit and I'll put my tent on the yard and make a nice fire. It's gonna be great. I've been waiting for a long time for this moment.
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pfxtc
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: MadSeason]
#9965216 - 03/13/09 02:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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that sounds pretty cool,
wish i had a big enough back yard for that,
think ima head out to the mountains for my experience.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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crkhd
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: Mr.Al]
#9966054 - 03/13/09 05:24 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mr.Al said: B.T.W. freebase D.M.T. at the peak F.T.W.!
At the peak of what, psychosis!?!?!? Can you describe your experience?
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Mr.Al
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: crkhd]
#9966133 - 03/13/09 05:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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crkhd said:
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Mr.Al said: B.T.W. freebase D.M.T. at the peak F.T.W.!
At the peak of what, psychosis!?!?!? Can you describe your experience?
It would for many be a good idea to START with the pipe holder/sitter holding the pipe BEFORE the first rip of the elfspice.
I would only recommend this in a very secure location with the closest (probably two people) friends.
It is something to be approached only if fear has no grip on you presently.
Experience: second hit, exhale, kaleidoscope digital reality (2 seconds?!?),lay down, enveloped by white light, tossed into completely different realities that are changing faster than I can comprehend... "coming down" laying very still with eyes still closed body shaking strangely. It was not unpleasant at all. There did seem to be friendly alien presence(s?!?) as per request.
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: Mr.Al]
#9966206 - 03/13/09 05:57 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do a google search for the ayahuasca forums and check out their "preparation" forum, there is more information than you could ever use there.
50g caapi/50g chacruna (p. viridis) is a good place to start. I prefer 100g caapi...but to each her own.
If your herbs are not powdered, you need to powder the chacruna and smash up the vine. Wrap the vine in a t-shirt and smash the holy living heck out of it with a hammer to break it up as much as possible. Some people pressure cook the vine and make it pliable, but you'll find that info elsewhere.
Mix the powdered herbs and about 1Tbsp of vinegar into a stock pot with about 3l or more of water, simmer 2-3 hours. Strain and pour that liquid off into another, larger pot, refill the 1st pot with herbs, and repeat the simmer/strain process twice more.
Then you'll have a pot full of aya yumliciousness (gag)...simmer it down until you have a drinkable amount. I'd recommend 8oz. max.
Wa-la! Ayahuasca brew!
Something that can help you keep it down, is to have a water bottl with 1 tsp of baking soda mixed in on hand. Drink very very tiny sips of this...drinking more will have the opposite effect. Rinse your mouth out with if after purging, it will neutralize the acid and get the holyfuckingshitthisisfuckingnasty taste out of your mouth.
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pfxtc
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: Kumara]
#9966217 - 03/13/09 06:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kumara said: Do a google search for the ayahuasca forums and check out their "preparation" forum, there is more information than you could ever use there.
50g caapi/50g chacruna (p. viridis) is a good place to start. I prefer 100g caapi...but to each her own.
If your herbs are not powdered, you need to powder the chacruna and smash up the vine. Wrap the vine in a t-shirt and smash the holy living heck out of it with a hammer to break it up as much as possible. Some people pressure cook the vine and make it pliable, but you'll find that info elsewhere.
Mix the powdered herbs and about 1Tbsp of vinegar into a stock pot with about 3l or more of water, simmer 2-3 hours. Strain and pour that liquid off into another, larger pot, refill the 1st pot with herbs, and repeat the simmer/strain process twice more.
Then you'll have a pot full of aya yumliciousness (gag)...simmer it down until you have a drinkable amount. I'd recommend 8oz. max.
Wa-la! Ayahuasca brew!
Something that can help you keep it down, is to have a water bottl with 1 tsp of baking soda mixed in on hand. Drink very very tiny sips of this...drinking more will have the opposite effect. Rinse your mouth out with if after purging, it will neutralize the acid and get the holyfuckingshitthisisfuckingnasty taste out of your mouth.
any recommendation on what to do with 12g MHRB and 3g syrian rue?
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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crkhd
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: pfxtc]
#9969152 - 03/14/09 08:21 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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pfxtc said:
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Kumara said: Do a google search for the ayahuasca forums and check out their "preparation" forum, there is more information than you could ever use there.
50g caapi/50g chacruna (p. viridis) is a good place to start. I prefer 100g caapi...but to each her own.
If your herbs are not powdered, you need to powder the chacruna and smash up the vine. Wrap the vine in a t-shirt and smash the holy living heck out of it with a hammer to break it up as much as possible. Some people pressure cook the vine and make it pliable, but you'll find that info elsewhere.
Mix the powdered herbs and about 1Tbsp of vinegar into a stock pot with about 3l or more of water, simmer 2-3 hours. Strain and pour that liquid off into another, larger pot, refill the 1st pot with herbs, and repeat the simmer/strain process twice more.
Then you'll have a pot full of aya yumliciousness (gag)...simmer it down until you have a drinkable amount. I'd recommend 8oz. max.
Wa-la! Ayahuasca brew!
Something that can help you keep it down, is to have a water bottl with 1 tsp of baking soda mixed in on hand. Drink very very tiny sips of this...drinking more will have the opposite effect. Rinse your mouth out with if after purging, it will neutralize the acid and get the holyfuckingshitthisisfuckingnasty taste out of your mouth.
any recommendation on what to do with 12g MHRB and 3g syrian rue?
Take it all at once.
Crush seeds to a fine dust, add reasonable amount of lemon juice or vinegar (let's say, 30ml) and excess water to catch aas much of the goodies in the first pull, bring to brink of boiling and wait for around 25mins. Filter, strain, use residue in same way and then boil down the resulting concoction to a manageable amount. The brew will be a very nice yellow colour, like visually splendid urine.
With the MHRB you need to be a lot more careful when heating. Fine powder again, reasonable amount of lemon juice (50ml?), around 500ml of water, heat to around 60 celsius and leave cooking for around 45 minutes, filter and repeat. Then there's a long long wait to simmer down the concoction.
If this is all you have then I advise dosing over a period of 1 hour. Once I'm MAOI inhibited (20-30 mins in), drinking the DMT solution will have me tripping in under 5 mins. At 12g expect an obscenely powerful body rush to start you off into the trip (maybe I'm just sensitive to it but that's what happened to me).
If it doesn't work, wait around 6 hours before redosing. The first time I did this, I felt nothing but nausea for four hours then got hit by a train. Well, that was actually the DMT kicking in. Mimosahuasca is very unpredictable in my experience no matter how systematically you brew it. A fast and hard onset almost always means you are in for a hell of a ride.
-------------------- "Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern." "THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker "If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific
Edited by crkhd (03/14/09 08:24 AM)
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pfxtc
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Re: Ayahuasca cooking? [Re: crkhd]
#9969633 - 03/14/09 10:56 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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crkhd said:
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pfxtc said:
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Kumara said: Do a google search for the ayahuasca forums and check out their "preparation" forum, there is more information than you could ever use there.
50g caapi/50g chacruna (p. viridis) is a good place to start. I prefer 100g caapi...but to each her own.
If your herbs are not powdered, you need to powder the chacruna and smash up the vine. Wrap the vine in a t-shirt and smash the holy living heck out of it with a hammer to break it up as much as possible. Some people pressure cook the vine and make it pliable, but you'll find that info elsewhere.
Mix the powdered herbs and about 1Tbsp of vinegar into a stock pot with about 3l or more of water, simmer 2-3 hours. Strain and pour that liquid off into another, larger pot, refill the 1st pot with herbs, and repeat the simmer/strain process twice more.
Then you'll have a pot full of aya yumliciousness (gag)...simmer it down until you have a drinkable amount. I'd recommend 8oz. max.
Wa-la! Ayahuasca brew!
Something that can help you keep it down, is to have a water bottl with 1 tsp of baking soda mixed in on hand. Drink very very tiny sips of this...drinking more will have the opposite effect. Rinse your mouth out with if after purging, it will neutralize the acid and get the holyfuckingshitthisisfuckingnasty taste out of your mouth.
any recommendation on what to do with 12g MHRB and 3g syrian rue?
Take it all at once.
Crush seeds to a fine dust, add reasonable amount of lemon juice or vinegar (let's say, 30ml) and excess water to catch aas much of the goodies in the first pull, bring to brink of boiling and wait for around 25mins. Filter, strain, use residue in same way and then boil down the resulting concoction to a manageable amount. The brew will be a very nice yellow colour, like visually splendid urine.
With the MHRB you need to be a lot more careful when heating. Fine powder again, reasonable amount of lemon juice (50ml?), around 500ml of water, heat to around 60 celsius and leave cooking for around 45 minutes, filter and repeat. Then there's a long long wait to simmer down the concoction.
If this is all you have then I advise dosing over a period of 1 hour. Once I'm MAOI inhibited (20-30 mins in), drinking the DMT solution will have me tripping in under 5 mins. At 12g expect an obscenely powerful body rush to start you off into the trip (maybe I'm just sensitive to it but that's what happened to me).
If it doesn't work, wait around 6 hours before redosing. The first time I did this, I felt nothing but nausea for four hours then got hit by a train. Well, that was actually the DMT kicking in. Mimosahuasca is very unpredictable in my experience no matter how systematically you brew it. A fast and hard onset almost always means you are in for a hell of a ride.
Wow thanks for the advice,
Yeah I only have 12 grams of bark left, the rest went into the DMT extraction,
12 grams should be a decent trip no?
also:
What ingredeients do you prefer in your brew? How do they differ from ingredient to ingredient? I'm gonna for sure try my MHRB brew but if you recommend using some other ingredients for next time I'd love to give those a shot as well!
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
Edited by pfxtc (03/14/09 10:57 AM)
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