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Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub
    #9953026 - 03/11/09 05:12 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953036 - 03/11/09 05:14 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

He's quite a character


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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953040 - 03/11/09 05:15 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

of course he's popular if everyone has heard of him

do you mean to ask whether or not we like him and his ideas?

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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953053 - 03/11/09 05:18 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

You can't deny his popularity, are you're trying to ask something different OP? Perhaps a new poll is in order :yesnod:


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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: tpihkal]
    #9953062 - 03/11/09 05:19 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

yah, he popular.

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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953097 - 03/11/09 05:24 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)



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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953105 - 03/11/09 05:25 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

I'm for anyone who ever attempted to illuminate the unconscious mind, overthrow the government and spread peace and love throughout the world.










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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #9953135 - 03/11/09 05:31 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

I think a discussion might start about his ideas... I think he was a bit wacko, but an instrumental character in the psychedelic revolution. There are things about him that I admire and things I disdain.


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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: stinkybritches]
    #9953210 - 03/11/09 05:42 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

or more specifically ...

http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm

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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: stinkybritches]
    #9953291 - 03/11/09 05:53 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

I really like the eight circuit model of consciousness.

I don't think it's accurate in it's entirety, but I think it's really true to perception of reality in how the believability of the circuits decreases as we progress from the first to the eighth. The first three circuits are extremely reasonable and fairly coherent with our theories of evolution and psychology. The middle couple (3 and 4) are almost comparable to modern 'quantum universe' type explanations of reality. The last three are the sort of ideas that you know can't really be explained properly in words but you have a sense of what he's getting at.

It gives me the feeling that this is how people go about founding religions.


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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953302 - 03/11/09 05:55 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

To me he is an anti-hero. What he did for LSD and the perception of psychedelics by the mainstream was more bad than good IMO.

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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: antiPock]
    #9953328 - 03/11/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

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To me he is an anti-hero. What he did for LSD and the perception of psychedelics by the mainstream was more bad than good IMO.




I'd have to agree with this, he had a great cause, cool ideas, but his methods were detrimental to his own goals.  If I remember right, many of his peers looked down on him for this very thing, and I would have to agree.


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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953421 - 03/11/09 06:13 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

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I really like the eight circuit model of consciousness.

I don't think it's accurate in it's entirety, but I think it's really true to perception of reality in how the believability of the circuits decreases as we progress from the first to the eighth. The first three circuits are extremely reasonable and fairly coherent with our theories of evolution and psychology. The middle couple (3 and 4) are almost comparable to modern 'quantum universe' type explanations of reality. The last three are the sort of ideas that you know can't really be explained properly in words but you have a sense of what he's getting at.

It gives me the feeling that this is how people go about founding religions.




yeah, i like it alot too. I think the upper eight have a moderate degree. its just rough model. and very basic. its so harder to put the other four in to words. I think robert anton wilson's elaborations on it are the most believable. also i think the eight mini brains branch of into more minibrains. but its so hard to even define what ii is. like you said the fisrt four are more believable. but there all down to earth circuts so we know those areas aot better than thelast four. all in all, its a rough model for other to expand and elaborate on.

what do you mean about the founding of religions.

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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: stinkybritches]
    #9953452 - 03/11/09 06:18 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

I mean the theory at large roots itself in such believability, but to follow it to the end requires a leap of faith. I can imagine many opportunities for an expert to start such a confident progression into the unknown throughout history. And what better tool to help make it believable than psychedelics?


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Re: Timothy Leary's Popularity in the Pub [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #9953519 - 03/11/09 06:28 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

agreed. they were only trying to explain the unexplainable. at the time the religions were the most believable. now this format for explaining the unexplainable is the most belivevable. thanks to the differant drugs that exploit the circuits mention. psychedelics can be the only way, well the easiest way to some universal truths.

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