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 arainbow
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OrgoneConclusion said:
And why.
I shall define a miracle as divine intervention temporarily transmuting the laws of physics.
would you include transforming painful emotions in to spiritual energy
(some people who know the steps can do this more or less at will )
or would you only include things like being yanked out of the way of that car 3feet away doing 40MPH
by the solar plexus then set down gently on the side walk left in a highly meditative state of mind for the next hour reflecting on what just happened
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OrgoneConclusion
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 Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO  [Re: arainbow]
#9972227 - 03/14/09 06:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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would you include transforming painful emotions in to spiritual energy
No. To stop beating yourself up may be a milestone, but requires no outside intervention. WTF is spiritual energy?
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arainbow
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: Icelander]
#9972263 - 03/14/09 06:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said:
No. Don't believe it cause I haven't seen it. Which is strange because so many here tell me all about them. Course god don't like me cause I don't believe in him. Maybe that's why.
or just maybe because you have not needed one
so there
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arainbow
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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would you include transforming painful emotions in to spiritual energy
No. To stop beating yourself up may be a milestone, but requires no outside intervention. WTF is spiritual energy?
the energy produced by doing things like meditation
painful emotion like the death
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arainbow
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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would you include transforming painful emotions in to spiritual energy
No. To stop beating yourself up may be a milestone, but requires no outside intervention. WTF is spiritual energy?
the energy produced by doing things like meditation
painful emotion like the death of someone close (not talking one self in to feeling bad )
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: arainbow]
#9972322 - 03/14/09 06:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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the energy produced by doing things like meditation
If this energy is not measurable, then it probably does not fit a real definition of energy and is likely imaginary.
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arainbow
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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the energy produced by doing things like meditation
If this energy is not measurable, then it probably does not fit a real definition of energy and is likely imaginary.
it dose show as a deference in brain waves on an EEG
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 meatcakeman
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Miracles. EVERYTHING is miraculous. Imagine taking one step forward. How such a miniscule activity is existent through the activity of your motor cortex is just a miracle. How your brain affects you as a person psychologically and socially, and on a molecular and cellular level, is miraculous. How the very chair you sit on is comprised of atoms, basic subatomic particles that are constantly moving in accordance with each other, is a miracle.
We are walking miracles. Everything around us is some sort of a miracle, either by its existence, or being. But we only see miracles as the unexplained, or the impossible-to-explain. And as organisms that only posses the potential IQ of 150, I'll be generous, we can only go so far, mentally, in regards to intelligence and perception.
Who knows? Possibly, there are beings out there that have the IQ of 1,650. What they perceive as 'miracles', in a humanistic context, could be completely different than ours. For all we know, they might be so intelligent that they are completely unaware of the existence of miracles.
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libertyshroom
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: arainbow]
#9972438 - 03/14/09 07:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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People thought that Jesus performed miracles but he just used hemp oil made with canola/vegetable oil to cure illnesses that people thought were incurable.
I would say there is no miracles but there is events that people think are miracles.
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We have been to the moon, we have charted the depths of the ocean and the heart of the atom, but we have a fear of looking inward to ourselves because we sense that is where all the contradictions flow together.
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: arainbow]
#9972443 - 03/14/09 07:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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it dose show as a deference in brain waves on an EEG
(A deference?  )
Of course, this shift in pattern/frequency shows no change in energy output. In other words, you are just making stuff up.
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arainbow
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it dose show as a deference in brain waves on an EEG
(A deference? )
Of course, this shift in pattern/frequency shows no change in energy output. In other words, you are just making stuff up.
it also shows that more of the brain is active
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: arainbow]
#9972552 - 03/14/09 07:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel as if I am having a discussion with a person from another palnet...
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: arainbow]
#9972699 - 03/14/09 07:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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arainbow said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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it dose show as a deference in brain waves on an EEG
(A deference? )
Of course, this shift in pattern/frequency shows no change in energy output. In other words, you are just making stuff up.
it also shows that more of the brain is active
Do you have a source for this?
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Mr. Mushrooms
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: Redstorm]
#9973051 - 03/14/09 09:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Welcome to the Shroomery. You'll have that here. 
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arainbow
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Re: Do miracles exist? YES or NO [Re: Redstorm]
#9975821 - 03/15/09 11:39 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Redstorm said:
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arainbow said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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it dose show as a deference in brain waves on an EEG
(A deference? )
Of course, this shift in pattern/frequency shows no change in energy output. In other words, you are just making stuff up.
it also shows that more of the brain is active
Do you have a source for this?
there was a video in the tech sub forum of the shroomery that
showed some guy playing with forms mediation
and an EEG machine
and it showed that more of his brain switch on
with mediation and that over all more of the brain was in sync (putting out the same waves in step)than before
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ChiefGreenLeaf
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OrgoneConclusion said:
And why.
I shall define a miracle as divine intervention temporarily transmuting the laws of physics.
The universe was created in an explosion out of nothing but infinite potential. That's really the only divine thing I could think of 
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EternalCowabunga
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I believe this is the video arainbow was referring to:
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