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 DtoX
Psilly
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 conocybe cyanopus?? 
#9923997 - 03/06/09 04:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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found today, pretty frosty, found in mossy grass
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 Bobzimmer
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 Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: DtoX]
#9924011 - 03/06/09 04:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any light blue tinges on the bottom of the stems?
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CptnGarden
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: DtoX]
#9924061 - 03/06/09 04:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
DtoX said:
nope.
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DannyGlick
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: DtoX]
#9924063 - 03/06/09 04:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like Galerina.
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Bobzimmer
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: DannyGlick]
#9924084 - 03/06/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like Galerina.
Why Galerina and not Conocybe?
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
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CptnGarden
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#9924134 - 03/06/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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the texture of the stems?
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DannyGlick
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#9924145 - 03/06/09 04:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just a hunch really zim.The stems remind me of Galerina(as CptnGarden speculates as well).
Some Conocybes and Galerina are tough to differentiate just by sight.
The only way to tell the difference is by spores with some species.
They could be Conocybe.
Edited by DannyGlick (03/06/09 04:59 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#9924153 - 03/06/09 04:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why Galerina and not Conocybe?
Galerina is more common on moss and Conocybe usually have slightly more conical caps.
It takes a microscope to tell for sure though.
Looks a bit like this one
http://mushroomobserver.org/name/show_name/701
Though there are tons of little Galerina species that look just like that.
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Bobzimmer
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Thanks guys. I'm supposed to be getting a kiddie scope here soon. We'll see if it's worthwhile.
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#9924206 - 03/06/09 05:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Probably not but better than nothing.
I have been experimenting with making my own microscope out of spare objectives and eyepieces. I can see why not many people make their own microscope, its really hard to get the focus right even at 100x. I am not giving up though, I want a 100 to 400x handheld scope that is powered by the sun or at night a white luxeon LED.
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Bobzimmer
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If my 400x kiddie scope probably isn't worthwhile, why would your 400x handheld be worthwhile? I must admit, I like the idea of a portable though. I'm a toolmaker by trade, and work with all sorts of high precision instruments and optics and stuff. Let me know if I can assist you in design or manufacture.
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
Edited by Bobzimmer (03/06/09 05:25 PM)
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CptnGarden
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#9924394 - 03/06/09 05:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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kiddie scope that goes to 400x? thats a pampered kid!
my kiddie scope (and all the others ive seen) goes to blurry 100x.
its impossible to do anything productive with a blurry 100x.
I just ordered a 1600X amscope, which is definitely worth it.
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DannyGlick
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: CptnGarden]
#9924409 - 03/06/09 05:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
I just ordered a 1600X amscope, which is definitely worth it.
Just ordered the same thing.
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Bobzimmer
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: DannyGlick]
#9924482 - 03/06/09 05:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool! It seems small compared to 1600x though.
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#9924903 - 03/06/09 07:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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If my 400x kiddie scope probably isn't worthwhile, why would your 400x handheld be worthwhile?
Because a kiddie scope is made from tiny plastic lenses that don't always gather much light and mine are made from real high quality objectives and eyepieces, which makes a big difference. But given the lack of a focusing mechanism, your toy scope will surely be superior.
I didn't realize your toy scope went to 400x, that is enough to get some serious work done. You won't be measuring the spores accurately but you can do everything else.
I always view cystidia at 100x, 200x or 400x, anything higher I only use for looking at spores.
Microscopes have a steep learning curve at first to try to understand what you are looking at and exactly what part of the mushroom you want to see, but after awhile its pretty easy and its definitely worth it. I actually like collecting Pluteus now because they look really fqn cool under the scope. Even Nolanea is cool under the scope.
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I must admit, I like the idea of a portable though. I'm a toolmaker by trade, and work with all sorts of high precision instruments and optics and stuff. Let me know if I can assist you in design or manufacture.
You can definitely assist the design and manufacture because those are the exact skills I am missing.
I am thinking for the first model it will be a single objective that screws onto a tube, and a single eyepiece on the other end. If you want to switch magnification you can screw in a new objective. The hard part is the stage / focus mechanism. Any idiot can hold an objective near and eyepiece and get good magnification, but trying to focus and illuminate something like that takes a bright light and very steady hands.
I need a mechanism that attaches to a tube and holds a microscope slide an exact and adjustable distance away from it.
Also I would like to have it do true kohler illumination to get maximum resolution, that will require an aperture and device to hold the LED. The aperture can probably be ordered cheaply or maybe salvaged from something like a disposable camera.
I was just outbid on some really nice nikon and zeiss optics on ebay but I won some other ones that will work well. For now I just take my normal microscope apart and use its innards when I tinker with homemade scopes. If you are lucky you can get nice objectives for $10 with shipping, same with eyepeices, potentially giving you a professional quality scope for $20. I recently used a $50,000 nikon scope with huge objectives, the image quality on that thing is amazing. I like the idea of buying top of the line optics and making a scope that I could never afford.
Maybe the best solution is to put awesome optics in a cheap scope, but that won't be portable.
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CptnGarden
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my little scope easily fits in my backpack, i can hold it in one hand and operate the distance dials with the other hand.
ive been looking to get rid of it since my new baby is coming, if u think u can ghetto rig it, its all yours.
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Moniker_Mike
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 105
Loc: New England
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 Re: conocybe cyanopus?? [Re: CptnGarden]
#9925553 - 03/06/09 09:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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My scope is the antithesis of portable, my father salvaged it from a scrap yard back in the day. I love it, it makes me feel like a mad scientist. 
It only has 10x oculars and a 2x objective though, I need to find some more powerful replacement glass for it.
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DtoX
Psilly
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After looking more closely at pictures of Galerina Vittaeformis http://mushroomobserver.org/name/show_name/701, im almost positive that is is not that. The caps are a solid colour and there was no visible lines on any of them. I threw them away after i thought they were Galerinas and it just snowed last night, so i guess i will have to wait untill it melts to find others.
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