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OfflineLeviathon
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Mushrooms i found
    #994062 - 10/26/02 02:30 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry no pictures. They were growing in a forest on a decaying log(cedar mabey?), The center of the cap was tan which faded into yellow. The gills were a yellow green color, the stem was yellow. I have never seen anything like these, but they were very beautiful and thought someone here might know what they were. Mabey i could go back and get some pics if anyones interested.


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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: Leviathon]
    #994107 - 10/26/02 02:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: Leviathon]
    #994487 - 10/26/02 11:03 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with the ID guess, they sound like Nematoloma fasiculare. They are very poisonous, so do not eat them.

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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: Leviathon]
    #995043 - 10/26/02 06:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

geez.
i try to take cues from you, tm, my brother.
i mean, are you not the man?
but have you not also switched over to hypholoma yet?
i thought i read a post somewhere...
maybe not.
i like the name naemataloma.
do i have to call it hypholoma if i dont want to?
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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: viscid]
    #995129 - 10/26/02 07:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You have a point. I was using the name given in the majority of my books, but a little research indicates that Hypholoma fasiculare is the more official name right now.

Of course, I haven't switched to Coprinellus micaceus yet, either.

I'm not sure when I'll break down and make myself always use the new, official name for everything. They keep changing, and they're only just getting started.


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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: ToxicMan]
    #995696 - 10/26/02 11:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i know, it's retardculous.

coprinellus?
are you serious?
and, at the risk of sounding ultra stupid, how do you italicize stuff?

peas and carrots make good soup. :tongue: 


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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: ToxicMan]
    #996117 - 10/27/02 02:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I saw a book that lists Hypholomas as Psilocybe. Psilocybe fasciculare  :grin:

I haven't heard of Coprinellus, but a while ago also Pseudocoprinus was suggested for C. micaceus, beceasue it does not deliqesce.


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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: viscid]
    #996119 - 10/27/02 02:50 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

When you make a post there is a section below: Instant UBB code -> Italics


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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: zeronio]
    #999984 - 10/28/02 02:41 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thanks zero. :wink: 


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Re: Mushrooms i found [Re: viscid]
    #1000922 - 10/28/02 08:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, Coprinellus. Here's the whole story (more or less).

The "in" thing right now is to have the Molecular Biology guys do DNA typing on all the species and then they redo the organization of the Families and Genera (and whatever else). They've been at it among the Coprinus and Psathyrellas, among others.

Coprinus comatus is the type species for the genus Coprinus (and the family Coprinaceae). So, to be a member of the genus, a mushroom has to resemble Coprinus comatus. But examination of the DNA shows that Coprinus comatus should belong in the Agaricaceae, the same family as Agaricus and Lepiota. Even more confusing, most of the remaining Coprinus species no longer will remain in the old genus, but need to go into 3 new genera. Coprinus atramentarius will become Coprinopsis atramentaria, Coprinus micaceus will become Coprinellus micaceus, and Coprinus disseminatus will become Parasola disseminatus. The new genera will be under a new family, the Psathyrellaceae.

Maybe. (Probably?)

There is also a second proposal to change the type species of the genus Coprinus to Coprinus atramentarius. If that happened, about 75% of what are now considered Coprinus would remain in the genus. Coprinus comatus would become the type species of a new genus (I haven't heard what that would be).

Why is this happening? Coprinus isn't a very consistent genus. Some of them turn to inky sludge when they get older, some don't. Some have a ring on the stem, some don't. Some have attached gills, some have free gills. Some turn reddish before they deliquesce, some don't. It turns out that most of the Coprinus species are so similar to some of the Psathyrella species that they will end up in the same genera. This reorganization will make the new families and genera more consistent.

As quick as that, any books you have with those mushrooms in them are out of date. Wheeeeee! Try sometime to read a book from 100 years ago about mushrooms and see if you can figure out what species they're talking about. Most of them are OK, but some of them are baffling. As zeronio pointed out, Psilocybe fasiculare.

If you think all that is confusing, wait until they finish with Cortinarius. I've heard hints that the entire family Cortinariaceae may be going away. For those who don't know, Cortinarius is the largest genus of mushrooms (I heard Meinhard Moser guess that there are probably about 3000 species, mostly yet unknown). David Arora hints at the wonderfulness of this in his comments under Cortinarius violaceus.



As far as italicizing, I use HTML tags. UBBCode tags would do it just as well. Guides to either are readily available all over the place.


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