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 iluan
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 Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE 
#9940432 - 03/09/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What i call PE3 and how they came to be.
I started out with a syringe of PE from SW. The pe that came from the syringe grew like your typical looking pe's except one or 2 little stringy fellows which the cap opened so these got printed. When these prints were used it produced many little thin stringy guys but most the caps opened and were dropping spores. Like this
The biggest of these got printed again. Now out of that generation grew these..a bit bigger
Of this generation alot more of them were bigger in size but they were still opening and dropping spores. Each generation seemed to produce bigger fruits. Producing some nice size printable PE's that i've been calling PE3's because of the jar label.
Here is a typical pinset on only 2 1/2 inches of coir/coffee and if you look close in the upper back round you can see some finishing up.
Here is a dried sample
Here is a nice sized cap printing
Here is an example of typical print from caps
The stems are still dense and gnarly like the PE's i started with, but the caps open flat and drop some nice dark prints. They seem to be just as potent
as the originals according to friends.
What i need are 10 experienced cultivators to help me spread this printable PE throughout the shroomery community and in turn they can grow and print these out to give away more prints to the community. If you think you have the right skills and experience to help then post something and i'll be picking the members i feel will help me spread these to the rest of you by pic galleries and posts in the cult forum. I'll let this run a few days before picking the 10 members. Thanks all for your time and patients in reading this.
B4B , you already have one set aside for you. Peace.
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Edited by iluan (03/10/09 12:34 PM)
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 Seroind
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 Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9940476 - 03/09/09 03:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't have nearly the experience needed to be trusted with one of these, but if you happen to find 9 experienced growers and want to let an amateur put his skills to the test I'll be around. 
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9940484 - 03/09/09 03:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Weird lookin PE... Wish I could help, but I can't have actives where I live.
 Glad you're doing your part in cultivation though.
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 Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9940575 - 03/09/09 03:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd like in on this...
One of the only strains that I haven't played with...yet.
I'd love to grow out some PE and send the prints into the FSRC.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: Seroind]
#9940698 - 03/09/09 04:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Seroind said:
I don't have nearly the experience needed to be trusted with one of these, but if you happen to find 9 experienced growers and want to let an amateur put his skills to the test I'll be around.
that's where i'm at. i'd love to help but i'm not that experienced
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9940804 - 03/09/09 04:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mate, I got mycelium from the PE print you sent me (if this is the same thing) cleaned and sitting on agar and it's my next project to grow it out. I always grow with an intention to share, so I am in on it.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: German Kahuna]
#9940926 - 03/09/09 04:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm interested, I PM'd you :-D
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iluan
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9941432 - 03/09/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I should add that anyone with the trusted cultivator tag is assured one of these prints if they want.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9941764 - 03/09/09 07:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice grow.
Those sporulate much better than standard PE.
They actually look more like my PE6 than PE, but they have a more gnarly stem.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9941815 - 03/09/09 07:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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if i recived one of thes togive to a friend would use lc maltdex to grain bag then spawn to bulk poo n straw case w coir mix and mail prints to shroomery membs and fsre (unfortunately cannadas rings down)
i cant prove to you how experienced i am, im stating honestly what i would do and how your contribution would go to helping many more others
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: jcyril23]
#9941845 - 03/09/09 07:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i would realy like one of these i would grow and give them back to
the community.
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iluan
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: German Kahuna]
#9944458 - 03/10/09 08:14 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
German Kahuna said:
Mate, I got mycelium from the PE print you sent me (if this is the same thing) cleaned and sitting on agar and it's my next project to grow it out. I always grow with an intention to share, so I am in on it.
It is the same print generation yes ) glad it's doing well.
I've gotten some good responses so far.
I'm going to give out at least 10 prints not counting the ones going out to trusted cultivators so please post if you want a chance at one of these.
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Edited by iluan (03/10/09 08:19 AM)
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9944820 - 03/10/09 10:04 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey I'm definitely no where close to being a pro let alone an amateur. I'm not really sure what i need to grow PE, but what ever i need i can get it. I would absolutely love to attempt a PE grow, I would just need some help with it. If your interested in helping me out just send me a PM!!!
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: ShamanShroomer]
#9944846 - 03/10/09 10:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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im not up there with the TC's but i always get sizable flushes, i live in the UK if you wanna send one over the pond. im a contibutor to the FSRE so theyll get passed on to them also.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: DeadDog]
#9945073 - 03/10/09 11:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's what I have going now.
102 quarts of WBS in various stages of colonization.
Five 18 gallon tubs of PE going atm.
I'm gonna replace those dressers with plastic shelves to make room for my next batch of tubs.
If I had access to your stuff right now, I'd start up 2 or 3 tubs worth immediately and share the love :-D
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: Spongiform]
#9945105 - 03/10/09 11:06 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Spongiform said:
Here's what I have going now.
102 quarts of WBS in various stages of colonization.
Five 18 gallon tubs of PE going atm.
I'm gonna replace those dressers with plastic shelves to make room for my next batch of tubs.
If I had access to your stuff right now, I'd start up 2 or 3 tubs worth immediately and share the love :-D
*shakes fist*  wish i had that much space lol
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: DeadDog]
#9945197 - 03/10/09 11:22 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I cloned a PE fruit loaded with spores. Now some 60 to 40% of what I grow is loaded with spores. For some reason they don't drop a heavy spore load, but if you put a cotton swab or a finger over the gills your be covered in black spores. I tried to make prints out of it and they were just too light to use. I'll definitely make swabs one of these days. I've seen plenty of pics like the ones you posted here. It seems when you get a flatter cap you tend to get a more spore producing fruit. The thing bodied stemmed version like you have seem to be the best printers.
P.S. My caps look just like yours. Flat tops that spread out like umbrellas except my fruits have a typical fat PE fruit bodies. I dig it. I get the best of both worlds.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: ronjohn7779]
#9945346 - 03/10/09 11:54 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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it's a 10x10 spare bedroom I converted into the mushroom room.
I need to get it set up a little better/more efficient use of space.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: Spongiform]
#9945365 - 03/10/09 11:58 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i am still quite new to this but would love to give it a go around if you would like to send my way i will try my hardest with it :-) and Spongi i have my own lil room too! I made sure to get a place with a spare bedroom for my own lil Mushie Land ( thats what i call it)
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: jdolphinbabe]
#9945383 - 03/10/09 12:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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well ill take one if I "qualify". not many pics or journals here but i guess ud have to take my word for it 
i will put it on agar and play with to let u know.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: ICdeadPeople]
#9945420 - 03/10/09 12:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'd give it a shot if you still had anything left.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: ICdeadPeople]
#9945432 - 03/10/09 12:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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why would you want to propagate a PE substrain that is "little and stringy"?
im well aware of the uncommonness of PE spores, but you even said that it all started from the 2 smallest fruits in your tray. and from the looks of the next generations, they retained much of those characteristics.
im just saying.... i like em real thick and juicy. so find that juicy double.
those trays look great anyway. nice pinsets.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: Michael Logical]
#9945439 - 03/10/09 12:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: Premedman1]
#9945481 - 03/10/09 12:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll be sure to spread the love if you send me a print.
You have my word
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: Michael Logical]
#9945526 - 03/10/09 12:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Michael Logical said:
why would you want to propagate a PE substrain that is "little and stringy"?
PE is known for its very hard to none printing capabilities.
Those look very printable and thats prob y, well at least y i want it. Then we could all have PE prints 
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9948732 - 03/10/09 10:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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The 3 TC's that sent me addy's are already going on in tomorrows mail. Still needing more replies though. )
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9948741 - 03/10/09 10:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just sent you a PM.
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iluan
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: archivist]
#9951396 - 03/11/09 12:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyone else want to give these a try? Still giving out prints. If you're willing to give out prints from these, then you can have one. Send me your addy and i'll get it out asap. Peace
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9953007 - 03/11/09 05:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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You should try to calculate the BE of this strain to see if it's worth spreading. It doesn't look too much like the original PE besides the stem characteristic, which is kind of a downside.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9964576 - 03/13/09 12:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, anyone who sent me their addy got a print sent to them. Heres a couple pics of MS on coir of this about to be harvested.
I put a quarter in for size reference in this one.
Anyhow, enjoy studying this one.
Peace
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: iluan]
#9964747 - 03/13/09 01:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I too would gladly spread this sporulating PE if given the chance. Bulk style. I like that last pic bro, very cool looking fruits.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: mushypanda]
#9964771 - 03/13/09 01:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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4got 2 mention I'm also doing PE and APE 1.0 from SP and PE6 from Ralph's so to have 4 'hybrid's of PE going would be SO neat. 
Your generosity to print all these caps and spread this strain is appeciated, don't think it's not. Wether I recieve a print or not, I'm thankful and I'm sure it will spread.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: mushypanda]
#9965960 - 03/13/09 05:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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they dont look so tiny with that quarter in there 
i think i speak for all us maui guys, that we would love to cultivate this strain.
ill probably innoc from ur print to grain, then make a nice healthy jar of mycelium water to test out its full potential.
of course print, and distribute as iluans PE3, and clone the fatties if possible and try to continue on the isolating of FAT PRINTABLE PE's
gr8fulJ says youre heading out here sometime soon anyway, so if you just wanna bring one, thatd be cool
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: just me]
#9965964 - 03/13/09 05:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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is PE originally a genetic mutation of another cubensis strain?
if so, you think your original 2 printables were reverting back to their parent genetics(from WAY back)
eventually couldnt you turn the PE back into a "normal looking" cube?
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: just me]
#9965996 - 03/13/09 05:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Probably, but I don't know if I'd want to.
My friends LOVE the pe I've got going now. 1 gram puts them to about a level 3.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: Spongiform]
#9966068 - 03/13/09 05:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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this i know 
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: just me]
#9966134 - 03/13/09 05:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Count me in. I want one of those bad boys. I'll do 2 105 Quart Tubs.
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: chucklehead]
#9966505 - 03/13/09 07:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Me too, me too!!! Even though I am a complete noob, I am very enthusiastic and so far doing extremely well: my multi-grain jars are 95% colonized and out of 14 jars I lost only 2 to contams. I will handle your prints with care and will spread the love around. Promise!
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Re: Need help from experienced cultivators to spread the PE [Re: psily]
#9966542 - 03/13/09 07:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would be glad to grow these. PM sent.
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