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Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results!
#9933328 - 03/08/09 12:53 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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I'm curious how much weight people tend to get by volume of substrate. I'm primarily interested in trays or monotubs, but I guess cakes are fair game too.
Please provide: Weight of BEST single flush Substrate dimensions (length x width x depth) Substrate composition Casing used? Strain
And pictures are always fun too
My best 10x6x2" trays (coir/verm) have yielded around 200 grams wet on the first flush, and my 15x12x3" monotub (hmc) yielded 900 on the first flush. All uncased. Strains are PES Amazon and Hawaiian.
Both work out to exactly 1.66 grams/cubic inch, or about 0.1 g/cc.
I expect some of you to dominate these results!
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9934857 - 03/08/09 06:04 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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You should be more concerned with dry weight. Wet weight can vary alot depending on when they're harvested but the dry weight wouldn't vary as much since after a certain point it's mostly water weight.
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: Spongiform]
#9935346 - 03/08/09 07:21 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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true but it's difficult to record dry weight since most of us who harvest end up doing more than one tray/tub at a time.
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: ScavengerType]
#9936565 - 03/08/09 10:10 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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ScavengerType said: true but it's difficult to record dry weight since most of us who harvest end up doing more than one tray/tub at a time.
That's where I'm coming from. I have a couple of trays going and between multiple flushes, I am already having a hard time remembering which batch of dried mushrooms went with what.
Anyway, I'm just curious what kind of results people have gotten. I've seen some really spectacular grows and wanted to see from a semi-objective view what was yielded vs. what was put in.
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9941335 - 03/09/09 05:56 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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No takers? Really? Perhaps I need to add an incentive.
Three entrants chosen at random will receive one inky dark print. PES Amazon. All of these prints are between 2" and 3" in diameter. The largest print will go to the earliest poster of the 3 selected.
Come on guys, show off a little here!
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9941347 - 03/09/09 05:59 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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is it too late to lie in order to win?
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: ScavengerType]
#9941358 - 03/09/09 06:02 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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Lying = bad karma = trichoderma in your future grows!
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9941392 - 03/09/09 06:10 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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but it's not too late right?
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: ScavengerType]
#9941422 - 03/09/09 06:18 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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Just post what you've got, or what you've had. I'm just curious what other people have gotten. Just don't make stuff up
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9941474 - 03/09/09 06:29 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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Well, ill pitch in but wont have you results for a week or two.
2 tubs 12 x 20 x 3 substrate of coir/verm/coffee Hawaiian and B+ Strains no casing
Weights: Wet - x Dry - x
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9941485 - 03/09/09 06:32 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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all right
I got this from a coir/coffee/gypsum tub cased with 50/50 (+L/G) MS. It was pretty much the entire yield of the tub. The coir used was coarse coir.
Measurements of the sub, were 9"x17"x2" so that's a pretty shallow depth comparable to trays. I never got a real second flush out of that but if I recall the yield off that first flush in that pic there was easily 2 oz perhaps 1 3/4 actually. Unfortunately though it was my only lone measurable grow I failed to write it down. In retrospect I wish I did, but I am fairly certain my approximations were the upper and lower estimate of the yield.
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Edited by ScavengerType (03/14/09 04:11 PM)
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9941624 - 03/09/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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no comment
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Edited by jcyril23 (10/14/09 11:35 PM)
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: jcyril23]
#9942213 - 03/09/09 08:53 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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ya know most cameras use the same type of cord, so you may be able to find a new cord easily at a dollar or electronic store.
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: ScavengerType]
#9942516 - 03/09/09 09:37 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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Or you can get a USB card reader for like 5-10 bucks.
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9942569 - 03/09/09 09:44 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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New computers generally have the 6-1 card readers as a standard feature now, plus pop the card out and stick it in the slot.
This tub was about 1600 grams wet:
Dried to about 7 oz.
Edit: 18 gallon monotub. 16 quarts bulk substrate -> 6 quarts spawn. 1 brick coir (8 quarts), 2 quarts verm, 4 quarts hpoo, 2 quarts coffee 1 quart gypsum.
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Edited by Spongiform (03/10/09 08:52 AM)
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: Spongiform]
#9942939 - 03/09/09 10:38 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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Spongiform, great grow, but you didn't include dimensions of the substrate... which is what the OP wants. Mind posting the details?
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: Shroominit]
#9942971 - 03/09/09 10:43 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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its a weird crazy small cord, smaller then mini usb. cant find the thing nywer just have to find the old one or order from the cam company....
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: Shroominit]
#9947819 - 03/10/09 07:30 PM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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Shroominit said: Spongiform, great grow, but you didn't include dimensions of the substrate... which is what the OP wants. Mind posting the details?
Agreed, though volume works for me too -- 16 + 6 quarts is 22 quarts total which is about 1270 cubic inches. I'd certainly be interested in knowing the surface area and depth though.
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: archivist]
#9948334 - 03/10/09 08:49 PM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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I used 1 pint of rye spawn to this tray -
Yield was 600+ grams wet. Spawn ratio was 1:2 coir coffee verm lime with a peatmoss verm casing.
I don't remember the exact dimensions but the tray was about 12in long and 2 inches deep with about 6 or 7 inches width
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Re: Substrate size vs. wet weight -- post your results! [Re: Jitsu]
#9948355 - 03/10/09 08:54 PM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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wait do you mean coir/coffee verm gypsum? Lime would be a funny adative to add to the substrate.
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