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Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa?
    #9917786 - 03/05/09 03:39 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Hey everybody, first time poster

Ive been enjoying reading this forum for some good info and I have a question that you all might be able to give some opinions about...

Im planning on doing some studies with the mimosa hostilis root bark and have found a couple different sources for the stuff some being from mexico and some being from the amazon.

I was wondering what you all had to say about the differences in quality of the plant harvested in different regions and anything else about any other major comparisons that could be of any importance.

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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: floatingwater]
    #9918015 - 03/05/09 04:14 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

I would think the stuff from the Amazon would be good, however buying it may help contribute to deforestation of the rain forest. That's just my thought though.

oh, and welcome to the Shroomery!


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: Cactusdan]
    #9918101 - 03/05/09 04:32 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

i think the amazonian stuff would probably be sustainable, it's caapi that gets fucked over.

i think you should buy seeds too though :wink:


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: haymaker]
    #9918474 - 03/05/09 05:40 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Yeah I like the idea of the source being from brazil but I just found it astonishing that the mexican mimosa is several times cheaper than the amazonian


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: floatingwater]
    #9918740 - 03/05/09 06:30 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

mimosa hostilis does not naturally grow in the amazon


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: haze1205]
    #9918841 - 03/05/09 06:46 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Oh good stuff then, I keep hearing people saying that they will not find MH growing among them unless they are in Brazil so I figured it was there naturally.


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: Cactusdan]
    #9919181 - 03/05/09 07:41 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Yeah, naturally it grows from northern brazil up to mexico if i remember correctly.

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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: floatingwater]
    #9919260 - 03/05/09 07:52 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Brazilian is MUCH better. Not sure why, it simply is. I have already worked with both, no wonder why the mexican stuff is so damn cheap (its shitty).

And it doesn´t comes from the amazon, it comes from the arid brazilian northeast.


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: haze1205]
    #9919270 - 03/05/09 07:53 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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mimosa hostilis does not naturally grow in the amazon




Very well mentioned, it lives in the arid brazilian NE, along with lots of cacti and other spiny stunted plants.


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: Mankey]
    #9919277 - 03/05/09 07:54 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Yeah, naturally it grows from northern brazil up to mexico if i remember correctly.




It doesn´t grows all the way up to mexico, its only found in Brazil NE AND in Mexico.

Sorry for the multiple posting.


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: floatingwater]
    #9919285 - 03/05/09 07:55 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

And for the OP - please take some time to read the rules of the garden, sticky on top of this forum.

Be welcome!


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: felixhigh]
    #9919867 - 03/05/09 09:22 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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felixhigh said:
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Mankey said:
Yeah, naturally it grows from northern brazil up to mexico if i remember correctly.




It doesn´t grows all the way up to mexico, its only found in Brazil NE AND in Mexico.

Sorry for the multiple posting.


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Well, I guess I didn't remember correctly then. :yesnod:

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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: felixhigh]
    #9919933 - 03/05/09 09:36 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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felixhigh said:
And for the OP - please take some time to read the rules of the garden, sticky on top of this forum.

Be welcome!


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And please don't triple, i mean, quadruple post :lol:. Welcome to the shroomery bro. You've found a good forum :thumbup:. Nice info by the way. I've wondered this myself.

I've got a wholesale list for ethnos sitting in front of me. While I am not going to violate anything by giving out their prices, I will say that Mexican MHRB is $50 cheaper a kilo than the Brazilian MHRB. I think this is because that the Brazilian stuff comes out of Brazil while the Mexican comes from Asia actually :shrug:. I can't really see why Brazilian is so much. Fuckin scam artists.

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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: ethnoguy]
    #9925768 - 03/06/09 09:56 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

From fucking Asia? There must be something terribly wrong there, or you´re being misinformed or they´re pushing something else there. There´s no MH in Asia, only in mexico and brazil.

As a Jurema connoisseur I may assume that the poor quality of the mexican stuff (I´ve already read about it too, and I agree) is bark-bark, and stem bark, not rootbark. The (in)famous tepescohuite.

From brazil what you get is true rootbark. Of the pink/purple ones, they´re really beautiful when whole and fresh.

Another reason why brazilian is more expensive is the shipping - mexico is right beside US, Brazil stays in the south hemisphere, its quite a trip.


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: felixhigh]
    #9926086 - 03/06/09 11:11 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

My understanding is that Mimosa is cut off in sections like pizza slices of the root area, so that the tree is not stunted.  This makes sense, because they wouldn't want to kill their 'golden goose' ! =)


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: fireshaman]
    #9926367 - 03/07/09 12:11 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

:lol: Of course there is no MHRB in Asia. The wholesaler has offices all over the world. Each one with its product line and freight cost(s).

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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: fireshaman]
    #9926979 - 03/07/09 04:03 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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My understanding is that Mimosa is cut off in sections like pizza slices of the root area, so that the tree is not stunted.  This makes sense, because they wouldn't want to kill their 'golden goose' ! =)




The good suppliers - the ones who support sustainable harvest - only harvest one root of each plant.
The greedy ones are willing to kill a whole tree (Jurema is a stunted spiny tree, a bush), for all its roots. Then comes the process of separating the rootbark from the core, cleaning it and leaving it to dry under the sun.


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: felixhigh]
    #9927457 - 03/07/09 09:37 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Thanks for the information everyone.. Looks like I've got some more reading to do on the plant! For some reason i just automatically assumed it'd be native to the rain forest but thanks for the corrections


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Re: Mexican mimosa versus Brazilian mimosa? [Re: floatingwater]
    #9928220 - 03/07/09 12:57 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Be welcome, mang!


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