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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9912795 - 03/04/09 08:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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I thought the leading theory for schizophrenia is the idea that to a disturbed and hyperactive dopaminergic signal transduction.




Right, the dopaminergic hypothesis.  AFAIK that's fallen out of favor ever since the development of antipsychotics that don't block as much dopamine and yet are superior in symptom-treatment than older pharmacological aids.

Either way, stressing your brain with sleep deprivation and copious amounts of drugs is not healthy.  :lol:


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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: deCypher]
    #9912829 - 03/04/09 08:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I was prescribed an antipsychotic, but it didn't do much. At times they made me feel even worse, especially in the beginning. It sure gave me a headache tho. Right around the temple. I was like fuck this shit, but then I started liking it. It helped me sleep.

Then I learned how to sleep by my self.

What's so funny about that?


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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: krypto2000]
    #9912844 - 03/04/09 08:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, it seems that antipsychotics are not too effective in general, and then there are the unwanted side effects such as tardive dyskinesia.

Although I've certainly experienced schizophrenic-like symptoms while on classical psychedelics (thinking I was Jesus while on magic mushrooms, etc), anticholinergics have been the most effective in producing psychotic states for me.  Hearing voices and having my mind fracture into different personalities is quite the experience.  Dissociatives too but that's much more of a manipulable trip.

Psychosis, dreams, and delirium have far more in common than most people realize.


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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: deCypher]
    #9912859 - 03/04/09 08:15 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Most people, don't seem, to realize. Nothing. At ALL!

I developed tardive dyskinesia. At least, I was worried I would, so I started twitching. The doctor reassured me there were NO side effects to it though and that it was 'perfectly safe.'

I came on here, these boards, and asked. Expressing my concerns. And I was told, by you guys, 'that shit is bad'

WHO DO I BELIEVE?!

So I meditated on it for awhile. And man! I just lost it. The world started twitching, and my body did exactly what I told it to. It felt like I could walk on water, I thought I was going insane.

Then I just gave UP.

Now, I just trust my self. It never has proved me wrong. Except those times it wants to.


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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: krypto2000]
    #9912861 - 03/04/09 08:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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How many, exactly?!




Well i have lost contact with all external reality on LSD, i could barely see because of all the colors, warping and melting  hallucinations.  My mind just became everything.  On DMT i found myself to be in a entirely new reality all together.  On mushrooms i have seen faces in the coals of a fire appearing and disappearing.  Anytime you are having full blown hallucinations, or losing contact with reality is what i would call "psychotic" symptoms.


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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9912866 - 03/04/09 08:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe they're just psychic symptoms? In some worlds they're not too far apart.


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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: krypto2000]
    #9919647 - 03/05/09 08:46 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I am with Cognitive_Shift on this one too...

This is one of my two bad trips, both had the same paranoid 'conspiracy' character.. And you know something? THey might be
triggered because I really heard something that was being said about me, but this had me in an extreme sociophobic paranoia, in which everyone was talking about me! I mean I was actually hearing the voices, lol... This was on a micro-dot, don't know if ou all know what this is .. lsd, pretty potent dose I believe. The big difference was I still knew this sociophobic hell was due to the drug. And the other day had me just somewhat 'depressed'  and kind of 'heavy'...

well, this resembles some common psychotic sypmtoms... my other bad trip was in the same vein. I also thought my friends were talking about me. maybe they did, but I imagined a lot more. Paranoid, huh?

heck , no, just bad set + setting, plus lots of weed...


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Re: 'Psychedelics and their dangers' [Re: mutant]
    #9928070 - 03/07/09 12:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

sorry I haven't had the time to answer...but I will soon :smile::) I already read your answers and found them really interesting....talk to you later guys , and thanks for keeping the thread interesting and nice :laugh:


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