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SalviaEngland
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White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be?
#992123 - 10/25/02 09:42 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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White Liberty cap ?? what else could it be?
Found in normal lib habitat in the UK.
Pics:
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992297 - 10/25/02 11:00 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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No spore print?
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SalviaEngland
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
#992304 - 10/25/02 11:03 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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in progress (no spores have dropped as yet)
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
#992307 - 10/25/02 11:05 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like mycena, they don't smell like ammonia do they?
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992323 - 10/25/02 11:08 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nifty, they're possibly albino mutants, also possibly sterile. Take a spore print and save it anyways.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
#992328 - 10/25/02 11:10 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've found some like that, there was a post somewhere on here a while ago. The person who found them took a print and it was a rust brown, which they were told wasnt good. The ones I found were like that and were VERY slimy and oily. I dont think they are active and could be dangerous.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
#992337 - 10/25/02 11:12 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Looks like mycena,
Yes, i also though of that but the stem seems to be bruising... could be my eyes though.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: MAIA]
#992343 - 10/25/02 11:17 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Yes, i also though of that but the stem seems to be bruising... could be my eyes though.
I don't see any bruising, not that there always is on lib caps. They seem to fit the description of Mycena leptocephala which also grows in grass.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
#992349 - 10/25/02 11:20 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Nifty, they're possibly albino mutants, also possibly sterile. Take a spore print and save it anyways.
Yeah, I was gonna mention that if they were lib caps they're probably sterile, judging by the fact that the gills are light. I don't know whether mycenas drop many spores, but I doubt that they do so it might be hard to solve this one.
I'll go look for a sample pic of the mycena I think it is to show you - have looked, only ones that showed up looked more like normal liberty caps, dam misidentifications.
Edited by RemiMartin (10/25/02 11:23 AM)
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SalviaEngland
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: bluesky]
#992372 - 10/25/02 11:26 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Same location but not so white:
Print from norm lib:
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SalviaEngland
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992376 - 10/25/02 11:28 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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They smell and feel the same as lib caps....
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992402 - 10/25/02 11:33 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I no longer think they are Mycena leptocephala, and probably not mycena at all, after studying more pictures, seems like they're lib caps.
Did you get many lib caps today? I got a few hundred, but there wern't as many as on wednesday, the weekend should be better.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992435 - 10/25/02 11:43 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I find sporeless liberty caps on occasion. It isn't that uncommon and is even mentioned in Stamets' book quoted below.
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Perhaps the most unusual form I have found is one that looks dangerously close to a Galerina but is in fact a denuded, nearly sporeless, orange form of P. semilanceata. With sparse spore production, the color of the overlying transluscent flesh shows a yellowish orange color instead of its normal purplish brown.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
#992443 - 10/25/02 11:45 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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There was the potential to collect 100s /1000s of course I only took a few for research purposes.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992485 - 10/25/02 11:57 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah i have found sporeless libs on more then one occasion too. They seem to be relatively common.
never saw a group of them together tho
Edited by kaal-kopje (10/25/02 12:19 PM)
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SalviaEngland
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: kaal-kopje]
#992492 - 10/25/02 11:59 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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but are they all white?
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992508 - 10/25/02 12:04 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow, thats a trip...
The shape of the cap and margin do not look exactly the same, but that just could be me.
Are they brusing? Is the gill structure the same?
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: angryshroom]
#992561 - 10/25/02 12:24 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks the same to me....
The white ones are drier than the others because of different storage.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
#992744 - 10/25/02 01:51 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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good score (for research, i men...) but you should toss those soggy ones.
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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: canid]
#992898 - 10/25/02 03:10 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi,
Whats wrong with the soggy ones?
Ashley
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