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OfflineSalviaEngland
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White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be?
    #992123 - 10/25/02 10:42 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

White Liberty cap ?? what else could it be?

Found in normal lib habitat in the UK.

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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992297 - 10/25/02 12:00 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

No spore print?


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
    #992304 - 10/25/02 12:03 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

in progress (no spores have dropped as yet)


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
    #992307 - 10/25/02 12:05 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like mycena, they don't smell like ammonia do they?


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992323 - 10/25/02 12:08 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Nifty, they're possibly albino mutants, also possibly sterile. Take a spore print and save it anyways.

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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
    #992328 - 10/25/02 12:10 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I've found some like that, there was a post somewhere on here a while ago. The person who found them took a print and it was a rust brown, which they were told wasnt good.
The ones I found were like that and were VERY slimy and oily.  :tongue: I dont think they are active and could be dangerous. 


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
    #992337 - 10/25/02 12:12 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

Looks like mycena,




Yes, i also though of that but the stem seems to be bruising... could be my eyes though.

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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: MAIA]
    #992343 - 10/25/02 12:17 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes, i also though of that but the stem seems to be bruising... could be my eyes though.





I don't see any bruising, not that there always is on lib caps. They seem to fit the description of Mycena leptocephala which also grows in grass.


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
    #992349 - 10/25/02 12:20 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

Nifty, they're possibly albino mutants, also possibly sterile. Take a spore print and save it anyways.




Yeah, I was gonna mention that if they were lib caps they're probably sterile, judging by the fact that the gills are light. I don't know whether mycenas drop many spores, but I doubt that they do so it might be hard to solve this one.

I'll go look for a sample pic of the mycena I think it is to show you - have looked, only ones that showed up looked more like normal liberty caps, dam misidentifications.


Edited by RemiMartin (10/25/02 12:23 PM)


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: bluesky]
    #992372 - 10/25/02 12:26 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Same location but not so white:



Print from norm lib:






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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992376 - 10/25/02 12:28 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

They smell and feel the same as lib caps.... :confused: 


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992402 - 10/25/02 12:33 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I no longer think they are Mycena leptocephala, and probably not mycena at all, after studying more pictures, seems like they're lib caps.

Did you get many lib caps today? I got a few hundred, but there wern't as many as on wednesday, the weekend should be better.


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992435 - 10/25/02 12:43 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I find sporeless liberty caps on occasion. It isn't that uncommon and is even mentioned in Stamets' book quoted below.

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Perhaps the most unusual form I have found is one that looks dangerously close to a Galerina but is in fact a denuded, nearly sporeless, orange form of P. semilanceata. With sparse spore production, the color of the overlying transluscent flesh shows a yellowish orange color instead of its normal purplish brown.




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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: RemiMartin]
    #992443 - 10/25/02 12:45 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

There was the potential to collect 100s /1000s of course I only took a few for research purposes.


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992485 - 10/25/02 12:57 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

yeah i have found sporeless libs on more then one occasion too. They seem to be relatively common.

never saw a group of them together tho  :cool:


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: kaal-kopje]
    #992492 - 10/25/02 12:59 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

but are they all white?


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992508 - 10/25/02 01:04 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

wow, thats a trip...

The shape of the cap and margin do not look exactly the same, but that just could be me.

Are they brusing? Is the gill structure the same?


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: angryshroom]
    #992561 - 10/25/02 01:24 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Looks the same to me....

The white ones are drier than the others because of different storage.



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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #992744 - 10/25/02 02:51 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

good score (for research, i men...) but you should toss those soggy ones.


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Re: White Liberty cap ! ! what else could it be? [Re: canid]
    #992898 - 10/25/02 04:10 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Hi,

Whats wrong with the soggy ones?

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