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m08b08
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I'm a dumb idiot !
#9915098 - 03/05/09 06:34 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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OK,here it goes, i made some honey water a couple weeks back,so i used it to inoculate some popcorn,(there done) 100%,anyway not knowing i had to spawn to bulk,but the thing is i have no hpoo what can i do with these ? obviously i didn't do my homework well enough lol.no biggie but does anyone have any suggestions ? ?
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9915118 - 03/05/09 06:41 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Do a rez effect.
you dont need to spawn to bulk, but you need something to help with moisture as grains dont do too well on there grains.
However, i have seen rye cakes fruit just like pf cakes.
Search for the rez effect, which is basicly mixing the grain with hydrated verm.
You will get 1 big flush, then mabe a few smaller flushes.
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m08b08
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so what ive read is to put a layer of moist verm on bottom and a moist layer on top,so it gives the popcorn moisture.im gonna give it a try ill update
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9915277 - 03/05/09 07:43 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Go ahead and spawn to bulk. Get some coco coir from petsmart in the reptile section, mix with verm, coffee grinds, whatever your heart desires, and layer in your spawn after pasteurization.
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Quote:
veda_sticks said: Do a rez effect.
you dont need to spawn to bulk, but you need something to help with moisture as grains dont do too well on there grains.
However, i have seen rye cakes fruit just like pf cakes.
Search for the rez effect, which is basicly mixing the grain with hydrated verm.
You will get 1 big flush, then mabe a few smaller flushes.
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m08b08
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thats all sounds great ! ive been doing some reading,and i think thats the way im gonna go iskinbash but tray should not be clear correct ? can i use a trash bag cut to size with razor,and go ahead and put substrates down,after pasterization lol !
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9915296 - 03/05/09 07:54 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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well its a good start. maybe score some straw. if your in a city hit up a franks or micheals and get those mini bails. expensive but i assume you can't get it elsewhere, otherwise you'd have bails and a weed whacker.
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9915304 - 03/05/09 07:59 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Yes, you want an opaque tray. You dont want any light coming through the sides to avoid side pinning. You can use a thick black trash bag to block out the light if you only have clear trays. You may want to put down a couple of layers though, and just put your sub and spawn on top.
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: iskinbash]
#9915394 - 03/05/09 08:35 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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If you aren't living in the country, coir is at the pet store and works AMAZINGLY.
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If you can wait a few days, you can get 4 bricks for $15.50 or so /w shipping here.
Same size bricks they sell in the pet stores for $5-7 apiece.
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: Spongiform]
#9915433 - 03/05/09 08:48 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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haha it *is* possible to steal them from pet stores. they arent used to theifs and the shelves are thick with bags of stuff. not that i would because i dont steal im too sketch.
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you can store your colonized jars at fridge. At 2-4 centigrades they won't be deformed for a month. So if you want time, you have a month. But always let them stay at fridge. I suggest horse poo. It has a great potency. If you don't wanna buy it you can get it from a stable or hippodrome for free. Get it and dry it. Then when it's time to make spawn you'll need some vermiculite, gypsum, horticultural hydrated lime. After spawning ended and it become %80 colonized, you'll make casing layer. You will need peat moss, verm, gypsum and again h. hydrated lime. Go http://www.mushroomvideos.com/ and watch related videos (Horse Manure Substrate, Casing Layer Preparation, Grain-Preparation).
There's a second chance as others said, go make coir-verm-coffee spawn. You don't need a casing layer at this way.
Third chance and the easiest, go mix it with straight vermiculite. Use search button you can find enough information about second and third ways there.
Good luck
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: Spongiform]
#9915443 - 03/05/09 08:52 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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3 pack 6.32 plus tax at pet supplies plus
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My jewish local petsmart doesn't carry the 3 packs in store :-(
All they carry are single bricks for like $7 apiece.
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3 pack 6.32 plus tax at pet supplies plus
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: Spongiform]
#9915472 - 03/05/09 09:02 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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that sucks nice link tho its bookmarked
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RedDevil420 said: haha it *is* possible to steal them from pet stores. they arent used to theifs and the shelves are thick with bags of stuff. not that i would because i dont steal im too sketch.
haha Yes! I love getting free substrate. I usually do jack them, but the last time it was warm and I didnt have a big enough coat. So i paid the 6 bux or so and for once made a legitimate transaction...
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: iskinbash]
#9915484 - 03/05/09 09:05 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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stealing is just buy them
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Carcass
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Steal them and when you got your shrooms go give some of them as a present.
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: Carcass]
#9915527 - 03/05/09 09:18 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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i do! so it all works out. i get for free i give for free. And an eighth of shrooms is worth much more than a brick of coir. lol.
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m08b08
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: iskinbash]
#9916307 - 03/05/09 12:23 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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cool,i gotta make a trip 2 petco to get my Leo's some food so ill pick up a brick,and i wont steal it lol ! its only a few buck's.and most likely ill pick up a little plastic tray while I'm out.also when all sub and spawn are mixed so on so forth,does the tray need to be covered and incubated or right to the shotty ? so 4 the dumb question's lol !
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9916360 - 03/05/09 12:31 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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go to home depot they have 6.5 quart tubs 99 cents each after you mix cover in foil poke a few holes in it then cover the holes with micropore tape give it 7-10 days then fruit
this was at 5 days only a few more to go
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9916724 - 03/05/09 01:29 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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ok i just walked into the door heres the coir ,i didnt grab a bin cash shortage but ill find something i can use anyway are there certain ratios id wanna use between the verm,coir,maybe some coffe,and of course the spawn witch are half pint regular mouths ? there are to fully colonized.
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9916743 - 03/05/09 01:32 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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yep same stuff i got works great
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m08b08
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if anyoe has any suggestions on what size of container to use,becasuye i only have o fully colonized jars hp regular mouth's,and a ratio that anyones used thanx people !
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m08b08
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9916997 - 03/05/09 02:06 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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ok i havew a 2 1/2 quart white plastic bowl,would this fall into the catagorie as opague its not see through so .......
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9917013 - 03/05/09 02:07 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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If light cant get through it, then you should be all good.
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m08b08
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: iskinbash]
#9917042 - 03/05/09 02:11 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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cool is there any certain mix to use i cant find much,or just go with my instinct on this one ?
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9918501 - 03/05/09 05:45 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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hey whats up ? just wanted to update everyone i did the rez,i will update in a week or 2 wish me luck ! thanks everyone for bailing my ass out again !
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Re: I'm a dumb idiot ! [Re: m08b08]
#9918973 - 03/05/09 07:08 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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sweet deal man, good luck
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m08b08
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thanx red !
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