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 burgerpizza
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 Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! 
#9899880 - 03/02/09 11:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you are thinking I'm a COMPLETE FUCKING MORON then GOOD!!! I need your help! My friend said this to me and I called him....well...a complete fucking moron. He said that he doesn't believe "people on the internet over a professor" (who the fuck is teaching him????) Anyways can anyone give me a website or site an article from someone REPUTABLE (doctor or the likes) that proves he's a twit? Thanks!!!
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9899913 - 03/02/09 11:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't need to prove shit. He's the one making ridiculous claims. He needs to come up with the documentation, or you can continue to call him a retard.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9899956 - 03/02/09 11:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know of any articles that may help you, but you should speak to him thusly: "My brain has swollen greatly from the use of mushrooms. This means my brain is bigger than yours. This means I wield greater cognitive abilities than you. This, in turn, means you should defer to what I say. Good day sir." That should clear up any debate you have with him.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: lukeboots]
#9899963 - 03/02/09 11:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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good point...but I have to admit it would be more satisfying to send him proof and call him a fucktard. 
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9899977 - 03/02/09 11:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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And acid creates big holes in your brain.
I've tripped so many times (acid and shrooms) that I can't even begin count them, and I'm still more intelligent than 95% of the people I meet on a daily basis.
I've never seen documented proof of shrooms causing deaths or even dangerous side affects.
I ate food I bought at a gas station today, and I'm damn sure that it did more damage than all the shrooms I've ever eaten.
I would slap him and demand proof. Or just slap him.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9899979 - 03/02/09 11:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's probably just being a stupid bitch and making up reasons for not eating hallucinogens because he's all anxious about it or something. Or he actually stayed awake in DARE.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: lukeboots]
#9900096 - 03/02/09 11:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sooooo... no one knows of an article? I REALLY wanna prove him wrong.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: lukeboots]
#9900109 - 03/02/09 11:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ask him if his professor can explain how the binding of psilocybin to endogenous 5-HT receptors causes cells to uptake water and cause swelling. (hint: he can't). You can't provide proof that it doesn't cause swelling of the brain, so the onus is on him to provide proof it does. Ask him to find credible proof.
EDIT 1: "Psilocybin mushrooms are not toxic. The National Institute For Occupational Safety And Heath (NIOSH) in the US Psilocybin (641) is rated less toxic than Aspirin (199) and Nicotine (21)."
If they caused your brain to swell, would NIOSH rate it less toxic than Aspirin?
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: Green_T]
#9900160 - 03/02/09 11:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's NIOSH?
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9900215 - 03/02/09 11:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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The National Institute For Occupational Safety And Heath is like a work-place safety institute. Created at the same time, and is similar to OSHA.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: AKSE]
#9900233 - 03/02/09 11:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha, I would love to see some OSHA posters with that bit of info on them. 
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9900318 - 03/03/09 12:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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How can you expect someone to come with an article about something some hack pulled out of his ass? I know I wouldn't waste time writing about debunking shroom myths. The way I see it, that just undermines any respect people might have regarding the war on drugs. They can bury their own hole the way I see it.
Which reminds me: My pathophysiology course book talks about people jumping out of windows and breaking their chromosomes when they take LSD 
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: lukeboots]
#9900355 - 03/03/09 12:10 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never read anything about your brain swelling when you consume psilocybin... and I've read impartial health studies, Anti-Drug counsels, Pro-Drug eg psilocybin for potential use as an anti-depressant. I've even read controversial allegations of psilocybin effects that have never made mention of brain swelling.
I agree, slap him.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: mozartvicious]
#9903857 - 03/03/09 04:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok thanks guys. I guess because I have heard of this myth before and thought it was a widely known myth, that there would be an article on it or something (like the myth that weed kills brain cells, you can find articles on that). I hate dealing with ignorant people, but I can't hate it too much....I used to be a 'tard too.
Edited by burgerpizza (03/03/09 04:25 PM)
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9904108 - 03/03/09 05:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://hosting.texoma.net/business/biotech/thia-faq.htm
Dude if shrooms made your brain swell, everyone who has used them would go to the ER immediately. Brain swelling is rather fatal. Above is a link about it in easy to understand terms
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: lukeboots]
#9904120 - 03/03/09 05:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
jonnywax said:
You don't need to prove shit. He's the one making ridiculous claims. He needs to come up with the documentation, or you can continue to call him a retard.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: AbortionVictim]
#9904157 - 03/03/09 05:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure if you can prove that there is no brain swelling since it is just a myth and no science journal is going to say 'oh by the way your brain doesn't swell like some people say it does!' If anything I would point out the study that finds shrooms may produce long-term feelings of well-being.
Here's a link to an article about it from a 'respected' news source
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,374264,00.html
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: Tangeleno]
#9904347 - 03/03/09 05:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to actually argue with people when they said ridiculous things that probably came from some misinformed health class teacher in 7th grade.
Now I just 
You could argue with him all day. He probably won't change his views.
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: alternatereality]
#9904366 - 03/03/09 05:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey alternate!
I understand what you're saying but this guy is a SMART guy and we work together on a lot of stuff and are good friends. I just refuse to believe he's a perma-tard haha
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Re: Shrooms are dangerous! Your brain swells! [Re: burgerpizza]
#9904409 - 03/03/09 05:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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you know what really gets me is when people who have taken mushrooms or acid and they claim they reason why you trip is because your brain bleeds but yet they continue to take them and make it out like brain bleeding is a minor thing. yeah i know they don't make your brain bleed but ah nevermind...
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