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benzeb
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WBS spawn ?s
#9886917 - 02/28/09 09:02 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, so just inocculated some jars 2 days ago. Took only a day for myc. growth, Its snow white so I hope Im correct. Ill put some pics up later. I know Im not gonna have enough sub./casing for all of them... So, could I let a few of them go 100% and treat them as if their BRF cakes? Also, can I do a bulk WBS spawn, or should I just get some poo from the local stable?
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9886955 - 02/28/09 09:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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1day? are you sure its myc?..... you cant exactly treat them as brf cakes but you can fruit without casing ....wbs is spawn, and if you spawn to poo that would be awesome youll get massive amounts of mushies
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9887034 - 02/28/09 09:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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well with WBS or grain jars, you need to let them go 100% before doing anything.
There are a couple of things you can do with WBS:
-If you have manure, then you can pasteurize that and mix the colonized WBS into it at a volume to volume ratio anywhere from 1:1 to 1:4 (WBS:Manure) depending on how froggy you feel. Allow the hpoo to colonize then fruit either with or without a casing.
-Break up the colonized WBS into a tub and case it with some type of low-nutrient casing like the 50/50 recipe.
-If you have wide-mouth pint or half-pint jars of grain...then you can birth them like a cake, just make sure to hydrate and then add a casing layer to the cake (aka the dunk and roll tek)
Elaborating on the first option, I would suggest looking up Oatman2000's coir tek...This uses coco coir as a substrate instead of hpoo or cow poo...and for spent coffee grounds(you will need these for coir) you can just go to Starbucks and ask for their used coffee grounds and they give you a big ass bag of it!
I would suggest searching for Wronguy's double tub tek, the 50/50 or 50/50+ casing recipe, and Oatman2000's coir tek as reference...if you need any help with anything, just ask  
hope this helps agmotes165
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Pretty sure it's myc. One of the eight already had some myc. growth inside but that's not the one that took off. I'll have pics up in a min. Sounds like the best thing would be for me to get some donated poo and spawn to that. I've only got one tub though...is it possible to divide a tub, with a plastic divider, into three sections so I can get 3/8 strains in one tub?
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9891157 - 03/01/09 03:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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The photos are enormmmous so watch out 

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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9891537 - 03/01/09 04:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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did you use multi-spore syringe to inoculate that jar? 1 day seems too quick for that much growth. at that rate I might lean toward cobweb.
And here's a link to Wronguy's Dub tub. Works like a champ! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4323984#4323984
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Not sure what you mean by "multi-spore" They have many spores from the same strain though, from ralph and hawk. I was worried about that being cobweb, but from the majority of post I've read only off-white colors are symbolic of contamination. Should I sacrifice one jar and birth it just to be certain?
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9897801 - 03/02/09 04:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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no, let it go but keep an eye on it and for the sake of scooby, don't open that jar until you know what's in it.
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Doesnt look like cobweb, looks like regular shroom myc. Must be some good stuff for that quick of germination, maybe it germinated in the syringe?
If you have more spawn than you can spawn to bulk, can always up your grain:bulk ratio. Or rez effect. I wouldnt birth the wbs as a cake it will probably come apart anyways, plus it wouldnt fruit well without a casing, or moisture reservore. Dunno if colonized whole grain wbs cakes would hold up well for dunking, so best to just case it or spawn or rez.
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: Stimpy913]
#9908006 - 03/04/09 12:25 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, pt. jars are 90-95% now. The quarts are 30-40%. However, on the quart jars some grains are stuck up top with alot of myc holding them to the glass. Would it be ok to flip them so that myc. will spread evenly throughout? What will be the best temp for fruiting? Anywhere between 70-78 is what I've read, but is there a specific temp that encourages healthier growth? Perhaps gradually lower the temp from 76-70 over a few days? Does anyone have a link to hpoo prep./sterilization?
It's definitely myc. I only used 1 of 5 germinated syringes, I thought it was contaminated, just to test it. This one is the slowest, which may be due to the size of jar? The others are 2 of 3 recent ones. These have execeeded all expectations!! The rapid growth could be due to a 24hr hepa air pump, maybe? I may make a few agar dishes from spores/clones depending on mushy development.
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9910532 - 03/04/09 01:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, I got the are you on crack look when I did drive threw asking for used coffee grinds... So, I opted to go with the 50/50 verm/peat moss tek. Will Miracle-Gro Sphagnum Peat Moss, enriched with miracle gro, be ok? Or should I try and find another brand, or even another species of moss?
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9919055 - 03/05/09 07:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Found a tek and I just spawned to poo So hopefully I'll see some results in the next few days well the rest of the jars play catch up. 50-75% humidity is fine for incubation, correct?
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9919105 - 03/05/09 07:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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benzeb said: Found a tek and I just spawned to poo So hopefully I'll see some results in the next few days well the rest of the jars play catch up. 50-75% humidity is fine for incubation, correct?
Hey man did you WBS look like this when you spawned it?


That is 100% colonized WBS. It needs to be at 100% before you birth it from the jar and spawn it.
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: Jitsu]
#9919186 - 03/05/09 07:42 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup on two... Only mine started getting poofy reaching toward the lid for more air/grain and even jumped to a few seeds stuck to the lid. Only one jar was 100% the second one, same syr., is around 95%+. The other two strains are following normal growth patterns. Quarts-PF clas 25-30%, 2 pints F+ 40-50%, 1 pint B+ 95%. Two mini trays B+, just made, 10-30%.
At 100% did yours feel dry "ish" to the touch, and yes I used alcohol on my hands.
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9919265 - 03/05/09 07:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not terribly dry but not terribly wet =/ it was like squishy mycelium lol.
How did it smell? Did you smell it?
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: Jitsu]
#9919398 - 03/05/09 08:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya that is how mine was kinda dry to touch but springy so I assume there is some moisture inside. Neutral odor to me/no noticeable smell...nothing that made me wanna yak.
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9919434 - 03/05/09 08:16 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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and you got your syringes from Ralph?
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: Jitsu]
#9919541 - 03/05/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ralph and hawk
Ralph's are in the lead right now...they were a little more fresh though.
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: benzeb]
#9919564 - 03/05/09 08:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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well damn, that's cool. I wonder if it was indeed spores that were in those syringes to have fully colonized spawn in 4 days.
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Re: WBS spawn ?s [Re: Jitsu]
#9919652 - 03/05/09 08:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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definitely! I couldn't see ralph's when they first came in, except with 10x mag. So I refrigerated for a month, then they swelled up! Hawks were enormous and had already begun mycellial growth in the syr., due to a weekend at the post office.
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