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InvisibleVSOPXO
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MycoRice tek
    #987287 - 10/23/02 05:07 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I've posted this before but he's another shot,it's really worth trying and a easy way to get similar results to grains. I first posted it when my name was still MycoThaikoh,but have made some improvements

1.Cook whole brown rice by the directions on the package it comes in.
2.drain well in strainer
3.get a piece of cloth or paper towels and sqeeze out the excess water in the rice
3.scoop into quart jars.
4.sterilize
5.innoculate
shake once around 30%
Usually get 100% colonization in about 7-10 days.

The good thing about brown rice is you don't have to PC it,you can sterilize with a steambath. Another member here is trying this and you should see a growlog sometime in the near future


Edited by VSOPXO (10/23/02 07:48 PM)


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #987687 - 10/23/02 08:03 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Wouldn't cooking the rice make it lose alot of nutrients?


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    #987787 - 10/23/02 08:46 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)



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InvisibleVSOPXO
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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #987825 - 10/23/02 09:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

Doesn't the rice all stick together in the jar



no. as long as you make sure to get most of the water out it won't stick. You can squeeze the rice like poo in Pavlov's Dog's tek.Then just loosely scoop it into the jar.
In reply to:

Wouldn't cooking the rice make it lose alot of nutrients?


No,the rice doesn't seem to lose any nutrients while cooking. But you can add some poo to the water,or use some hay water while cooking the rice if you want.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #989115 - 10/24/02 08:57 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

if you want to do rice substrate you shold really look up wayne rush's materials.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: comario2]
    #991920 - 10/25/02 03:55 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

All I know is that my tek works damn near as fast as grain and uses nothing else in the substrate but rice, and doesn't even need a PC.It's good enough for me at least,I've had plenty success.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #992097 - 10/25/02 09:03 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

i want to see the growlog :shocked: 


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #992102 - 10/25/02 09:09 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

yeah.. you can probly use a rice steamer.. i have... well.. i think all asian people have one.... we get 50 lbs bags of rice... lasts us a while.. but its not brown rice... white rice.... depending on the water content.. you can make it sticky or grainie... after steaming... there should be no moisture to squeeze out... well.. rince steamers are expensive... so... dont buy it unless you eat lots of rice... heheh... never made rice from directions on package... hrmm... dont think the 50 lbs sack has directions.... ;]

ill try to steam some brown rice and report on how well it works out... too bad.. small steamer is like 60 bucks... i got a big one... has a timer so i can set a delay and let the rice soak some water...i wonder if i can steam my jars in it... to steam sterilize...heheh...

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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #992462 - 10/25/02 11:50 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Loose rice recipe.
2 portions of water to 1 portion of rice.
Heat water, then put rice. Adjust flame to medium.
Cover it.
Never steer the rice while i's cooking.
When you cease to see any water, turn it off.
Let it cool down for a bit, et voila  :laugh:.

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    #994064 - 10/26/02 12:33 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #994271 - 10/26/02 02:54 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

This is different than the 9er tek. My tek requires no verm. The 9er tek is pretty much like the PFtek except that the substrate is whole rice and not ground. My tek is a grain tek, except with rice.It has worked better for me than the 9er tek did.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #994459 - 10/26/02 08:35 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

very nice for those without a pc.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: telefunkenU47]
    #994939 - 10/26/02 03:12 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

very nice for those without a pc.



that's my point, you can get grain results with actually less work than PFtek and a PC is not necessary.



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    #995278 - 10/26/02 06:30 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #995362 - 10/26/02 07:13 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

How do you accomplish this step?




If you had looked two inches below where you quoted you might have seen this:
In reply to:

The good thing about brown rice is you don't have to PC it,you can sterilize with a steambath


but if you want to use a PC,you can.


Edited by VSOPXO (10/26/02 07:15 PM)


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    #995678 - 10/26/02 09:37 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #996072 - 10/27/02 01:23 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

It's okay,I don't hate you that much :smirk: 


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #996207 - 10/27/02 03:10 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

*picture deleted because of content*
Warning...don't post that crap in the Mush Cult.


My own variation of this TEK.


Edited by Roadkill (03/07/03 07:32 PM)


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #996208 - 10/27/02 03:12 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

dude you give us otd guys a bad name


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: Dobie]
    #996210 - 10/27/02 03:14 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

no i dont i was trying to help


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: Dobie]
    #996211 - 10/27/02 03:15 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

i have just as many stars as you


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #996220 - 10/27/02 03:23 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

mr. dildo sauce


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #996221 - 10/27/02 03:24 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

go away


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #996431 - 10/27/02 08:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

would adding maybe a tespoon of calcium carbonate or something else also help the rice to be less sticky? :ooo: 


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: bigslick]
    #997023 - 10/27/02 02:08 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

maybe adding some gypsum... i dunno how much.. but its supposed to help grains from sticking from each other... search for gypsum and you will probly find it... gypsum is cheap and easy to get....


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: tsimehc]
    #997219 - 10/27/02 03:49 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

The member who is doing the grow-log said he's trying both ways, but if you get enough water out of rice it won't be too sticky.That's the main reason you need to squeeze it.But when you put the rice in jars,there should be no standing water at the bottom, regardless.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #997818 - 10/27/02 07:46 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

well.. i like the idea on only using whole grain rice... when i find some containers for it.. im gonna see if i can use the rice steamer at home and steam me up some rice.... and if that is sucessful... im gonna try to use the rice steamer to sterilize... but i think the bottom of the steamer gets hot....


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #1088759 - 11/26/02 08:14 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Is there a grow log yet?

I think im going to do this tek...but i need a little more information.

Thanks


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: volcomYAE23]
    #1088825 - 11/26/02 08:40 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

yea, and does anyone know if they would do good invitro?


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #1094774 - 11/28/02 09:33 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

no one knows?


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #1165324 - 12/23/02 03:24 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Thought I'd bring this thread back, seeing how I'm going to try this tek. Any updates on it? Anyone try it?


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #1165736 - 12/23/02 06:11 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

VSOPXO, could you please post a direct link to this growlog. i noticed below that some asked if there was one, and the answer was "yes" (i guess that was a response to this question) i am very interested in trying this. it seems that this method would produce much higher yields than the pf tek.

thanks.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #1166828 - 12/24/02 06:43 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

you are a  contaminated human being and hopefully you will get tossed. What the hell are you thinking about ? The really tragic part is that deep down in your heart you really think that you have posted the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel...please do all of us a favor and plese remove yourself from the earth..go to hell......... :mad:


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #1167091 - 12/24/02 08:13 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Couldnt u just cook the rice in the jars themelves? put ingedients in jar, seal, boil or pc, let cool, steralized rice jars.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1167439 - 12/24/02 09:50 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

The MycoRice Tek rocks.
I give it 3 big goofy grins. :grin: :grin: :grin:
If you get impatient- crumble the rice cakes into the blender, cover with OJ, frappe and enjoy. 1 half pint cake per 2 people. 


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1168864 - 12/25/02 03:21 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Has anyone tried the rice steamer method of mosturuzing the grain in a rice steamer?, and the sterilzing via steam boiling, this would be a real simple way to go to grain


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #1169003 - 12/25/02 05:17 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

i have never worked with grain so if i sound like a dumb ass with these questions, sorry. i have a few jars going on now and if i wanted to start a new batch of jars and just use this tek. my question is has anyone tried this tek and if so:how do i steam the jars, how much head room would i need to allow for shaking? how much spore solution is recommended? and what are some measure to follow when inoculating as far as contamination is concerned? any help would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: SomeMycologist]
    #1169017 - 12/25/02 05:32 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Someone rate this man some shrooms!  :smile:

The reason for cooking the rice is to get a suitable water content, that is why you dont need any vermiculite.  And if you just cook the rice in the jars im willing to say you'll get about 50% contamination rate at the best.

Of course that is if you steam sterilize via boiling water.  I am pretty sure that you can put soaked rice in the jars and pc them and get good results.  But also it is then hard to get the right amount of water in.  It is much easier just to cook them first.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ]
    #1169668 - 12/25/02 12:07 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I have grown in vitro with whole grain white rice. Very easy and nice little fruits too.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #1176706 - 12/29/02 06:01 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

so has anyone tryed this tek yet? im trying to do some half pints and arnt sure how much head room i should leave if any. if no head room is needed, d oi need a dry layer of anythin at the top? ANY insight on his would be of big help


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    #1224166 - 01/16/03 03:06 PM (21 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: X.O]
    #1224304 - 01/16/03 03:51 PM (21 years, 16 days ago)

Im using micorice tek right now.


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: X.O]
    #1224345 - 01/16/03 04:05 PM (21 years, 16 days ago)

is there a grow log yet?
i'm tired of fooling with the verm in my jars, and this seems like the best way to use my left over brown rice. i'd like to try this tek, but i don't know enough about growing mushies to do it with out some step by step directions to follow. have you written out a "bible" for this tek?


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: X.O]
    #1224381 - 01/16/03 04:23 PM (21 years, 16 days ago)

Lol I started a grow log a few minutes before you posted that Rico!  :smile:


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Re: MycoRice tek [Re: VSOPXO]
    #1224722 - 01/16/03 06:49 PM (21 years, 16 days ago)

DAMMIT! I was hoping I was the first to try this... The way I am going about it is somewhat different, however.

1. I am using Uncle Ben's brand whole grain brown rice.(The kind that comes in a boiling bag)

2. I cooked the bag in a ziplock bag full of distilled water. After about 1 hour of boiling I took the whole thing out and put it in another ziplock bag....(I do this because I have found the the first ziplock bag gets really weak around the seals and makes it more open to contaminants.

3. After it was all cooled I injected the bags...I did .5 cc on each side of the bags...and am letting them sit in an 85 degree F incubation chamber. but that is as far as I have gotten so far....


Glad I am not the only one trying it though...I most likely am gonna end up with a bag full of green, but still worth a try. :grin:


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