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 Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? 
#9867063 - 02/25/09 11:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm trying to get as good as possible at different species to find my niche, as far as what mushrooms:
1. return the most dollar per lb. as far as profit
2. are best for the area (volvariella volvacea needs cold temps and rice straw= neither are in San Antonio)
3. Are acceptable for community (Hispanics don't eat alot of Lion's Mane)
I really want to get into growing commercially, even if I have to relocate. Does anyone relate to this? Or even do it for their base income? I'm thinking of growing and selling gourmets and medicinals at the flea market. Even this would fulfill my need to just do something with my experience.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9867194 - 02/26/09 12:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Have you tried the restaurants in SA? Maybe shoot some shrooms up to
that restaurant they have in that Space Needle thingy. I'm sure there are restaurants around the Quarry and the Dominion that would love to get their grubby mitts on some locally grown mushrooms.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: LokelYokel]
#9868294 - 02/26/09 08:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm in the process of setting up a commercial mushroom farm right now.
The economic stimulus package just passed by Congress is intended to fund exactly these sorts of projects, so this is the perfect time to get in and obtain funding.
You'll need to grow warm weather mushrooms in your area, or do what I'm planning, and that's to build underground grow areas, with solar cells above to power LED light banks inside. If you write a proposal, cater it to 'green energy' and efficiency, which is why I'm going underground with the grow rooms. Find out if the state of Texas has also lost its paper recycling facilities, and if so, this is the perfect time. You can grow oyster and shiitake on waste paper easily.
As for market acceptance, set up a booth at your county or state fair, showing your projects, and have a cooking demonstration where you pick fresh mushrooms and cook them up on the spot, giving everyone a small piece on a toothpick.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9868361 - 02/26/09 09:08 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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That sounds great RR! I think there should be recycling mushroom farms like what you are setting up in every city. Every time I've used newspaper in the past its been a mess, how do you plan to process the paper so you can grow on it large scale? For that matter do you recommend a way of processing it for a small scale operation? In my experience the ink gets everywhere and paper goes anaerobic very easily.
chobumms, I have some friends that started growing oysters on straw and selling them to local restaurants and super markets. They have the corner on local mushroom production and pull in upwards of $10,000 per year out of a garage sized space. They grow out of PVC tubes with holes cut in them. I've been considering doing something similar but with 5 gallon buckets. That way there wouldn't be a lot of plastic waste from the mushroom production.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: PitcherCrab]
#9869030 - 02/26/09 11:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I grow my oysters in 5gal buckets. It is nice because they stack on each other and are easy to move around. I do line the buckets with regular kitchen trash bags and poke just a small hole in the bags where ever there is a hole in the bucket. I feel that the bag helps the bucket maintain its moisture content, keeps out nasties, and makes it nice for picking. The cluster pop right off without tearing out any of the substrate. Once I establish a steady rotation, I think I can get a couple hundred lbs of oysters/ month. I have enough restaurant contacts that I could move double that each month. I'm hoping by the end of the year to be at least paying my mortgage every month with the mushrooms.
RR, that gov grant would be a hugh deal for you. Best of luck! I hope you secure it. Please keep us posted
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9870488 - 02/26/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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As luck would have it, this year they're having a 'recycling competition' at the fair in April. I plan to win it. The local TV stations will be covering this, so hopefully they'll feed it to the networks and we can get some national coverage.
RR
This is so cool. I hope the fact that I live in an apartment right now doesn't hurt my chances of getting at least a small grant. A grant is a great idea! 5 million is out of my ballpark  , but even $1000 would be great too! Does anyone have any detailed ideas on where to apply for such a grant? I know google, will bring up results for grant, but just wondering if there is anything specific I should know of when applying for one. I guess I sound lost at the same time though, lol.
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chobumms, I have some friends that started growing oysters on straw and selling them to local restaurants and super markets. They have the corner on local mushroom production and pull in upwards of $10,000 per year out of a garage sized space. They grow out of PVC tubes with holes cut in them. I've been considering doing something similar but with 5 gallon buckets. That way there wouldn't be a lot of plastic waste from the mushroom production.
I wish I had straw in San Antonio, nowhere is it to be found. I even had to drive an hour to get sawdust pellets though I'm sure there's a mill closer than that. I have a very hard time fluffing up my bulk so to say because of the limited resources. And I'm in a city so to say!
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9870813 - 02/26/09 04:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sure you can get straw in SA. Look at feed stores. Texas is a big wheat producer, and straw is the bottom part of the stalks left over after they cut the grains off. You can also use other agricultural wastes, such as cotton seed hulls, which I know you can get by the truckload in TX.
See if your county has an agricultural agent.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9870876 - 02/26/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is straw to be had in central Texas. They grow wheat around Fredricksburg. That is where I got my first batch of straw 5 or so years back. I actually located it through someone who built straw bale houses. I know that S.A is not as hippy as Austin, but it may just be an angle for you to work.
A couple of years back I drove to Kansas and brought back 100 bales of organic wheat straw.(still have 50 left) They ended up costing me about $7.00/bale once I figured in my expenses, not counting my time. That is about $3.00/bale more than local conventionally grown wheat straw. I don't think I would do that again as the chef's I have been dealing with don't really care if it organic as long as they are beautiful and tasty. Maybe If I were growing a couple thousand lbs a month and selling wholesale it would be worth it to get organically certified, but small scale I don't think it is worth the effort and expense to do so.
I want to start trying out several different types of landscape waste. Banana leaves, palm fronds, some of those ornamental grass that go dormant in the winter, the list goes on and on. My thinking is if you try some of these things some of them will work. If you never try them, they will never work, guaranteed. Good luck!
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9872698 - 02/26/09 08:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sure you can get straw in SA. Look at feed stores. Texas is a big wheat producer, and straw is the bottom part of the stalks left over after they cut the grains off. You can also use other agricultural wastes, such as cotton seed hulls, which I know you can get by the truckload in TX.
See if your county has an agricultural agent. In my state, we have conservation districts and their monthly board meetings are open to the public. I got the ball rolling by printing out some of my pictures of mushrooms on phone books and newspapers, and also a few of waixingrens pictures, and took them to a meeting unannounced. At the end of the board meeting the chairman asked if there was any other public business before closing, and that's when I stood up and gave my first talk, while passing the pictures around to the board members. After that, the ball just kept rolling because every public official knows lots of other public officials, so good ideas spread fast. Best of luck to you.
RR
Very good! I can't wait to call about this. Trust me, I'm not being lazy. I have looked and looked and looked, and I have never heard of an agricultural agent. I will look for this person and see what information they have that can benefit this cause. I am very aware of the non-degradables I throw away and want to do something to offset it.
Fredericksburg is semi- close to San Antonio, I will be willing to make that journey for the straw. And RR, thank you for your experience. I can't wait to check this out.
Thanks Yokel, I think organics are only worth investigating on a larger scale, too.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9872814 - 02/26/09 09:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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volvariella volvacea is a warm weather mushroom Colonization/Fruiting Temperatures: 75-95F/80-90F
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: poboy]
#9874646 - 02/27/09 06:10 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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volvariella volvacea is a warm weather mushroom Colonization/Fruiting Temperatures: 75-95F/80-90F
Thank you for correcting that! I'm happy to be wrong in this situation. I read through google that a drop below 70 degrees Fahrenheit severely limits yields. I think I want to get this culture now. It sounds like a tasty mushroom.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9875398 - 02/27/09 09:26 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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My wife and I live off the profits of our mushroom farm. It's a VERY modest living right now, but I can see by summer when more farmer's markets start we will be living more comfortably.
We started out very small growing oysters to bring to farmer's markets with other produce from a farm we worked on. They were a huge hit and eventually we got some family investment to expand.
Right now we sell to 5 stores, 2 restuarants and one farmer's market. We are in talks with a large distributor. Demand is huge and it looks like we can grow as much as we want.
We grow blue, elm, and king oysters. Shiitake, enoki and miatake right now. More in the summer when the weather warms. Actually the most profitable are the oysters. They cost less to produce and although they don't command the high price Shiitake or enoki do, we make more because we produce more.
My advice to anyone trying to start a mushroom farm is start small and let it grow naturally. Don't try to run before you walk. And also, stay out of Michigan ;->
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: b3jamboree]
#9878084 - 02/27/09 03:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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San Antonio, huh? Straw really shouldn't be a problem up there. Down here in Houston straw is damned near impossible to get!
If you're looking for resources on marketing your products, check out:
Design~Build~Live. Some information on straw bale construction, but they can probably hook you into local suppliers. I'd be a little worried about growing oyster mushrooms in a straw bale house, though. 
Local Harvest. There is good information here on farmer's markets, CSAs, co-ops, etc.
Slow Food USA. It looks as if you've got a local chapter, but the only contact is an email address.
If I think of anything else I'll toss it up here. Visit some of those markets and talk to the farmers! Cultivating relationships with them can get you good information and contacts for materials, markets, etc.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: Paresthesia]
#9879493 - 02/27/09 06:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Straw is not damn near impossible to find in central or the gulf coast of TX. I guarantee that a 1-3 hr drive from either Houston or SA will result in a amount of wheat straw that would be damn near impossible to plow through in a lifetime. Granted it takes some planning. Wheat farmers don't always bale their straw, most times they work it back into the field. That is unless they can sell it. You have to find a farmer, find out when they harvest and bale, and make some arrangements. I put one post in the farm and garden section of Craigslist inquiring about straw and had half a dozen people respond. By the way now is the time you should start contacting farmers. They may not have straw now but will soon.
It is out there, you just get to take a day to explore a little bit more of this wonderful world we live in to get it. Who knows maybe you'll see some mushrooms on the way. Damn near impossible? Hardly!
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: LokelYokel]
#9879715 - 02/27/09 06:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I posted something on Craigslist asking about straw, and I got zero responses! If you know where I should go, hook me up!
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: Paresthesia]
#9879799 - 02/27/09 07:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try a post in Austin Craigslist, The responses I got were mostly from Taylor which is a little northeast of Austin. That is probably the better part of 3hrs for you depending where you are in Houston(seems like it can take an hour to get from one part of Houston to another. Another idea I had is that Montery mushrooms in Madisonville uses tons of wheat straw in their agaricus operation, maybe you could contact them and possibly buy some from them. They might not want to eff with it but it is a least worth a google search and an email. Madisonville isn't much more that an hr from H-town. One more thought, if you do get in contact with a farmer ask him if he knows any other farmers who may be closer to you.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: LokelYokel]
#9880856 - 02/27/09 09:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll let you know what I run into paresthesia, and thank you jamboree! that is a real cool story and exactly what I wanted to hear. Maybe when somebody hooks me up with a volvariella volvacea culture I'll try it out. I just have to hook up some trades first.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9881056 - 02/27/09 10:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Straw should be at ANY feed store, even in the city. I used to buy mine about 1/4 mile from the center of downtown Seattle. Just look in the phone book under farm/feed supply and call them up. If you have to drive more than a few miles from your house, I'd be very surprised.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9881374 - 02/27/09 10:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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The feed stores in Austin had no wheat straw. That is the first places I tried and was kind of surprised they did not have it. You do what you have to do and if that means driving an hour or so, "Whoomp! There it is!" People take alot more drastic measures to pursue their hobbies, let alone potential livelihoods. Beside, I find it quite fun to seek things out and eat at the hole in the wall gems of diners in the hayseed towns I find stuff. I do love me some greasy spoon chicken fried steak w/mashies!
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9882173 - 02/28/09 03:11 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Straw should be at ANY feed store, even in the city. I used to buy mine about 1/4 mile from the center of downtown Seattle. Just look in the phone book under farm/feed supply and call them up. If you have to drive more than a few miles from your house, I'd be very surprised.
RR
I only know of one feed store around here. I will look more up this week because it seems I haven't looked hard enough. I will drive far if I have to. But I won't if I don't have to!
I think warm weather mushrooms would be best because paying for cooling the air would only be another expense in the overhead. As soon as I get a home I will turn my small projects into their larger versions.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9883248 - 02/28/09 10:06 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Paresthesia,
rice straw should be no problem for you around houston as there are rice fields everywhere there--eagle lake, and south of houston too--in addition to rice chaff/hulls. there are rice storage facilities everywhere--and that's where all the winter goose hunting is, in rice fields usually. check it out. you too chobumms.
we have ample supply here in tejas.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9884366 - 02/28/09 01:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hoping to get a $5 million grant for equipment and facility construction. It actually looks good and they were impressed.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9884852 - 02/28/09 02:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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How much are you guys charging the resteraunts for oyster, shiitake, and enoki??
If you dont mind me asking .... Im curious ...
Also, I realize oysters do well on newspaper/paper waste products, but what other species will do well on newspaper waste??
My work has tons of shredded paper and Ild like to start using it to grow my own personal supply. Great idea!!
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: OZZ]
#9886390 - 02/28/09 07:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oysters - $17/3lbs
Shiitake, enoki - $25/3lbs
Only VERY high end restaurants will pay these types of prices. Most other restaurants just want the cheapest shit possible.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: b3jamboree]
#9886474 - 02/28/09 07:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What about lions mane? Im assuming those would command a bit higher price??
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: OZZ]
#9886620 - 02/28/09 08:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lion's mane doesn't really have the market acceptance yet that other species have, depending on location of course. In Seattle, shiitake brings 17.95/lb in the grocery stores, and oysters bring 9.95/lb in the stores, which is pretty much in line with the prices b3jamboree listed for wholesale in MI. When you start growing tens of thousands of pounds per year, you can see where the profit kicks in.
You guys need to check with your local municipal recycling or waste management authorities. You can probably get all the paper from recycle bins in your city. Substrate cost isn't one of the higher expenses, but when you're able to get thousands of pounds of free substrate, it gives you a good starting point.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9888840 - 03/01/09 08:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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16-18 for shiitake and around 10 is about right for retail here in MI. However you have to take into account most stores take 40-50% of that. The best money is in direct marketing: farmers markets. Thats how we got our start and have made the most money.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: b3jamboree]
#9889638 - 03/01/09 11:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey b3 i was curious if you had a market for morels? i can get rid of 50+ pounds the first and second week in may. its april and after the second half of may that i have no market.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: trigger]
#9889784 - 03/01/09 12:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dry the morels properly and you can sell them all year.
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got lots dried and properly canned from last year, at 50-60$ a pound fresh, compared to 10$ an ounce dried.......lookin for that fresh market!
is there any markets for dried besides ebay?
hey rr, how does one become a reputable edible mushroom dealer?
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9890873 - 03/01/09 02:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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10 bucks a jar is my going rate, all jars were sterilized and vacuum sealed with heat to preserve a fresh dried morel for years!
not a big seller at the festivals or ebay.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: trigger]
#9890923 - 03/01/09 02:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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$10 for one of those jars seems like nothing considering the jar is going to cost you about a buck making the mushrooms only $9 How many ounces fresh does it take to make one jar?
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: LokelYokel]
#9891326 - 03/01/09 04:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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the jars hold a little over an ounce, (around half pound wet), i cant seem to sell them all at 10, let alone more, fresh is the way to sell morels.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9894656 - 03/02/09 02:20 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What sort of certifications, permits, taxes could you expect to run into, growing commercially?
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9895524 - 03/02/09 09:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9895742 - 03/02/09 10:42 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you are growing portabellas or anything on compost(manure) there are some regulations that I'm not real familiar with. If you are just growing other gourmet's and selling them as is(no slicing, drying, or altering in any way) you won't need any kind of certification. If you are just producing a raw agricultural product(mushrooms) it's just as if you were growing carrots or tomatoes. Your state ag department might want to inspect your facility, but maybe not.
If you want to sell wild mushrooms there is a shit load of regulation. In Michigan you must have some type of formal education in mycology, or have someone who does vouch for you in writing.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: b3jamboree]
#9986898 - 03/17/09 03:49 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I want to know what potential newspaper holds. I know it can get all soggy from reading others experience. Recycled newspaper MUST be an abundant resource.
Is the yield decent when combining newspaper with coffee grounds, horse manure, or worm castings like I expect it to be?
Will most mushrooms that grow on wood do decent on these pasteurized materials?
or is it better to just sterilize sawdust with wheat bran and gypsum?
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: chobumms]
#9988060 - 03/17/09 11:38 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Newsprint is an excellent substrate with no supplementation. Mycelium rips right through it. However, don't make a long-range business plan based on available newspapers and phone books, because they're going the way of candles when the light bulb was invented. Every day, we read of another newspaper going out of business, and most people look up phone numbers online, so I'll bet phonebooks will be the next axe to fall.
I live in a rural area, but the town that is our county seat recently gave me the key to all the recycle bins, so I can grab all the newsprint and cardboard I want, any time I want. I've got several shelving units full of colonizing substrates now, waiting for the ground to thaw out enough to get a track hoe in to dig my underground fruiting area.
As newspapers bite the dust, the Poplar plantations that were grown to support the pulp plants will be left without a buyer, which makes them an excellent source of hardwood for mushroom farms.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: b3jamboree]
#11708557 - 12/23/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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why stay out of michigan? I am new to michigan and am curious what you are warning of?
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#11734770 - 12/28/09 10:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said:
In Seattle, shiitake brings 17.95/lb in the grocery stores, and oysters bring 9.95/lb in the stores, which is pretty much in line with the prices b3jamboree listed for wholesale in MI. When you start growing tens of thousands of pounds per year, you can see where the profit kicks in.
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Any idea on the state of the mushroom market in Seattle RR (or anyone else)? Are there local producers? I see Ostroms (from Olympia) is everywhere but I'm wondering about local high quality gourmet producers. Who is providing Seattle markets and restaurants (and will they give me a job?  )
Sorry if this is off topic,
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: cowlitz]
#11735040 - 12/28/09 11:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think most of the shiitake being sold in Seattle comes from china, or at least it looks like it. I'm sure if you started up a farm, they'd buy from you. I've moved to the other side of the state, so Spokane is going to be my big market.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: cowlitz]
#11735256 - 12/29/09 12:49 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Interesting. Thanks, and best of luck to all of you making a living of it.
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: cowlitz]
#11735746 - 12/29/09 03:26 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool someone dug up this thread. Interesting read.
Soooo... Did you get the 5 million in the end?
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Re: Does anyone here, or anyone here in the past, grow commercially for decent income? [Re: OZZ]
#16464517 - 07/01/12 10:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kiss, nice reishi antlers ther.
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