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Re: First Timer
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how mcuh you planning on eating? i tried that last week on 2 hits of good acid, and i wasnt home for 2 hours before i had to get out. i probly could have made it, but i was too jittery and had to go somewhere. it does differ from person to person though.
-dark

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Re: First Timer
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I plan on doing an 1/8 what level do you think I would reach? Maybe 4 I think.

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Re: First Timer
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My advice to a first-timer is at least NOT to have a Level 4 tripp...(if you dont have any sitters or experinced trippers at hand)..
You could have the best moment of your life..
But you could also freak out..
If you have parents at home and gonna get on a Level 4 tripp they are gonna notice even if you try not to show anything because you will act really strange...You probably wont be able to communicate properly either....

Find someone eho you trust to share the experience with...



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Re: First Timer
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People say do at least 3-4 grams, and an 1/8 is 3.5g. Why wouldnt this be a good idea? I'm in college now, but this year decided to stay at home and go to school and work. My parents will be gone this weekend, so thats perfect. I also smoke bud a lot. So I'm no stranger to an altered state of conciousness. I just want to experience some of the visual effects. Any advice?

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Re: First Timer
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Smoking bud will not really prepare you for it,if you have dropped acid before than thats something different.
You see tripping for the first time alone on such a high dose could lead to a serious freak out,when it goes bad it goes REALLY BAD!I would cut the dosage in half for the first time.

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Re: First Timer
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I am mentally prepared for whats gonna happen. I dont really freak out ever. Not scared of anything, prepared if things start to morf and melt and such. Anymore advice? My parents are gone this weekend and my uncle (who is kinda slow mentally) is over) and its just gonns be me and him. This should be a fun time!!!!! Anymore advice is greatly appreciated

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Re: First Timer
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You are apparently not aware to what mushrooms do to you..
You dont freak out because things start to melt or because you get weird visuals...

The mushrooms change your way off thinking..
A little thing can get blown out off proportions when your tripping..
If the mushrooms overtake you, then you wont be able to control it...

You cant compare mushrooms to bud, thats like comparing a plant and an animal...
Totally different..

I guess you could eat 3-4 grams...
BUT....then you should have a sitter...and not someone who isnt even aware that you have taken mushrooms since you probably wont be able to have a normal conversation with him... (ok...you probably will be able to have that...but not if you go on a Level4 tripp and peak)

If it is a friend then you will probably just laugh at the situation and that you are so screwed...but if it is a person to whom you dont wanna show that you are on some kind of drug you wont feel comfortable..
(I wouldnt anyway)

I guess you are gonna ingest cubensis..
3-4 grams the first time is alot if they are potent...
I would suggest 1,5-2 grams the first time..
But since you want a heavy experience i would recomend 2-3 grams..
Not more..

I guess you wont listen to what i say anyway so go right ahead..
You probably have fun anyway, because most people fins shrooms quite nice..
But i still dont think you should aim for a Level4 tripp the first time..

Maybe just my opinion...


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Re: First Timer
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i really a gree with lilskit bud is nothing compared to mush it has happened to me wher eu feel totally comfortable its not the visuals that freak u out it could just be the teensiest little thing like anything or u may have some adverse reaction especially if u have never taken them before some ppl are extremely sensitive to mush and even passout on an 8thi say eat 2 grams just so you know what it is better safe than sorry trust me

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Re: First Timer
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Ok, it was just that I have an 1/8 on the way, thats all.

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Re: First Timer
    #98502 -

Dude! First of all you DO NOT know what to expect if you have never done it. Second, nothing can prepare you for the experience so don't fool yourself into beleiving "you're ready". You'll likely have a pleasant experience but don't think that you already know what it's like. And lastly, why not sit on that 1/8 until you have the oportunity to share it with one or two people that are experienced. If the shrooms are any good 1.75 grams will be PLENTY for a first timer. I would actually suggest less. I STRONGLY suggest that you not do it alone.

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Re: First Timer
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If you say that you definately won't freak out, you obviously haven't read enough. I don't think you understand what this is about, it's not just like weed but more powerful. At times it's like you are actually insane for a few hours. Shrooms are not a way to unwind or relax. They won't do that.


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Re: First Timer
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Just because i said I won't freak out does not mean I havent read enough. I have read plenty on the subject. I just know I can control it. When I'm dreaming, I can realize I'm dreaming and control it and end it the way I want it to end. Kinda cool. But I know I won't wig out or anything. Thanks for all the help Keep them coming!!!!!

Plus none of my friends around here are into shrooms, and only 1 smokes weed. So they wont do it. The friends that I roll on e with and all of that shit are across the state. We met in college. Peace
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[This message has been edited by TheGreatOne (edited December 07, 1999).]


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Re: First Timer
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You wont notice you are dreaming, you will think you are right and your response or whatever would be totally whacked. Thats whats fun about it when you finally do realize how fucking gone you were haha. I did 2 grams on my first time and had a great time. Then ate an 1/8 the next time and had one of the best visual expieriences of my life. Both times very cool, if i was you i would eat 1.75 grams and give the other to a friend. or just do the one the one time, and save the rest for the next weekend! haha

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Re: First Timer
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Ok, now I am thinking about just doing half, now I hae to find out who to sell the other half too, rather. But none of my peeps here is down for that. I might just do half this weekend and half another, like a month later, For NEW YEARS!!!!!!!

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[This message has been edited by TheGreatOne (edited December 07, 1999).]


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Re: First Timer
    #98507 -

I suggest doing a half for the first time. I don't however, suggest doing it by yourself. It's dangerous, at least for me, because I tend to get really nostalgic about people when I shroom, and I want to talk to someone about it. Don't do an eighth first time. It blows you away

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Re: First Timer
    #98508 -

Being blown away does sound tempting

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Re: First Timer
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Again, just because you've had lucid dreams doesn't mean you can handle a nasty trip. If you take too high a dose, it's your first time, and things go bad YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT. There's nothing more too it. Chances are you won't get into a situation where you need to worry, but don't think that you can handle it if you haven't experienced it before, that's just being cocky.


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http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: First Timer
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Phluch, I appreciate the concern. Since everyone has made a very concious effort to enlighten me on the first time dose, I'll stick with half of an 1/8. I guess you have to crawl before you can walk. Thanks all

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Re: First Timer
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Yep, I didn't want to sound like a dick. Just make sure to think. If you were going to do it with some friends then I'd say eat it all. Enjoy yourself, and good luck.


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Re: First Timer
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I acctually think your "i can handle it" attitude will just make it worse if you get into a bad-tripp... *no offense - im just trying to guide you to make a wise choice*

I have friends who have tripped on acid probably 100:s of times.. (one has even eaten 1,4 mg of acid...2 Freddys FatCat 700mcg in one ---after repeted use of LSD over a couple of days though...)
All of them had the "i can handle it" attitude the first time they shroomed and ate 1,4 grams of cyans...
All of them had bad tripps..

(Since i hadnt done ?cid at the time I ingested my first shroomies I started out with 0,7 (cyans) and had a great time...
With 3 friends as sitters though..)

THEY took TOO much...and thought they could handle it...
Well....letme say THEY WHERE WRONG..
And these guys had as i said tripped ALOT of times...

One of them went too bed.. (alone)
When he woke up (about 1-2-3 hours later) he was peaking..
He didnt know what had happened...
He tought he was dead and he saw blood everywhere..
He thought that he had killed someone, and he was totally out of it...
He couldnt remember that he had eaten shrooms and didnt know what the fuck to do..
So he just laid there in his bed feeling totally insane and crying..

After a while (1-2 hours) he got up of his bed and went to the bathroom to puke cuzz he was feeling sick...
He puked and saw the shrooms..
The tripp had now calmed down and he realized that this horrible experince was only from the shrooms..

This happened to an EXPERIENCED tripper..

Just think about it..

Nowadays i would ingest 1,4 cyans. without a doubt..
BUT...i would never do it without a sitter..

Hell..i wouldnt eat an 1/8 cubensis without a sitter..

OK maybe i would...BUT...i have done shrooms before..so at least i know what to expect...
But i still cant control them if they want to take me on a hell-ride...

Yes blown away sound tempting ehh..??
But think if you get blown away in the wrong direction..??

I think your decition (spelling ?) to only eat half is a good one..
And hey..
Tell us all how it went..... :wink:


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Re: First Timer
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yeh id rather have a lil fun adn still have mroe shrooms left for anothe rday then to have alota bad and no mo shrooms think of it that way

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Re: First Timer
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Thanks bros, I will definately post my experience, that goes without saying. Any other bad trips, feel free to post. I will continue to research this board. Can't know too much about something.

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Re: First Timer
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Have sitters there if possible, that or other people on shrooms to reasure you that you are not GoInG MaD! Also do it somewhere comfortable and warm.

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Re: First Timer
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Ok, you obviously don't know what to expect..Its *NOTHING* like weed. When they say trip.. they mean you take trips. You pack your bags and you don't know when you're coming back. I agree with everyone else. Take a small dose your first time. Expect to trip, maybe you won't and you'll just have really cool visuals.

I'd also suggest frying/tripping(more tripping) in a comfortable enviroment. Around people you like, etc. Don't trip around someone you're mad at! *EVERYTIME* I have done this its turned a trip bad.
Not much else. :wink:

Best of luck!
-D


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Re: First Timer
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yo, what's up... all i gotta say is if dude wants to drop an 8th, by all means do it... I've eaten shrooms 16 times, 12 of those times were on an 8th, i consider it a standard dose. A 16th will get you rollin' pretty good, but there is nothing in this world like peaking on an 8th. only problem is that its too damn expensive... my most heroic dose has been an 8and a half. 8th 1/2.
now that was a tight trip... just thought you'd like to know...


mouse...

like the fat kid in dodge-ball...I'm out...


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Re: First Timer
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yeah,
mouse, the thing everyone is saying is not on my first time, without a sitter

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Re: First Timer
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Yo, dude to answer a different part of your original post, I'd stay away from TV.

Music is really cool, and well, is basically a great idea. TV is ok if you want to try to play some video games or if you have a movie to watch or something, but regular TV can really put a negative spin on the trip as you realize how utterly pathetic the media is, and how everyone buys into it.

Anyway, to agree with everyone else I think the 1/2 of the 1/8 is a good idea. I read tons before I tripped for the first time, and it really helped me know what to expect. However, there is no way to be ready, it was more just as things happened I recognized things from what I had read. But there is nothing else like tripping, and experience is the best teacher. There's no need to trip on an 1/8 the first time, just for caution's sake. Take a dose that you'll most likely be comfortable with, cause you can always do higher dosages later.


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Re: First Timer
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Oh yeah, another thing. The first time i tripped i had a pretty light trip (pretty tame level 2), and had a GREAT time. The second time I accidentally had way too much, and had a bordering on level 4 experience. I could barely keep it together and half-way flipped out a whole bunch. I recovered greatly though when the trip wore off, but it still took about a week before I felt 'right'. Since then I've had tons of trips, many of them level 2, and mild to mid level 3's. I am slowly building up, and with the experience i've gained at the lower levels, when i step up to the next level it is not hard to handle. However, I know personally that jumping into those high levels can be a pretty bad idea (whether you planned it or not).

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Re: First Timer
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yeh, stik to the low doses for yer first lil while u dotn wanna ruin the shromin experience fo yourself like i did with acid

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Re: First Timer
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I have to agree with another_dimension that TV is not a good idea..
A movie could be a good idea and video-games to...
But i do not really like spending time in front on the TV while tripping..
Music is a must though..

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Re: First Timer
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First trip with an eighth can be bad / good. I did a whole eighth on my first time out. I was also in a bad situation though. I was entirely alone, in the dark, with no music. I ended up vomitting on myself, and then being dropped from my body and into Hell / Chaos. I awoke the next day disbelieving the next day but the vomit stuck in my hair proved otherwise. The memories were all repressed and months later bits and pieces still come back... HOWEVER. This did show me the awesome power of the shroom / psychedellics in general and I have not had a bad trip since, yet I am still to eat the mushroom. Soon I will, though.

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Re: First Timer
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Ok stay away from t.v. and chill with some music. I will probably play some computer games though. Sound cool? Can't wait for this Saturday

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Re: First Timer
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Man, some of you wrote some pretty scary stuff. My very very first psychedelic experience was 10 baby hawaiin woodrose seeds (LSA) which made me vomit for like ten minutes and I really thought I was gonna die. This is when I still lived w/ my parents, and they were in the next room..However after just a few minutes of mental agony I got myself in complete control and had cool visuals, and loved it! But then a year later I got to try shrooms, I went straight to 3.5g's and had an AWESOME time. In my opinion, I think some of you made it sound like a bad trip is common. I have tripped 100's of times, and, for me, I think it just takes a strong mind. I mean definatley only take 1/2 an 1/8th you're first time, but I'm just saying that even if you did take the whole 1/8th, if you truly EXPECT to have a great time, I highly doubt you would have anything less than an awe inspiring experience, be it spiritually, or just hella fun!

-peace


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Re: First Timer
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OK...sure moomin your right...
Ive never had a "really" bad tripp..
Ive had anxiety for a couple of times but that was due to my setting and not my set...
But...the first time you dont know what your tolerance level is..
I mean, if the shrooms are really potent hes gonna tripp-balls..
And if he doesnt have a sitter and only a person that he doesnt want too tell that he has ingested shrooms he could have a really bad time....
The primary things to think about is always set and setting...
But youll never know how you will respond to the shrooms before the first time...

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Re: First Timer
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Got them from a friend in the mail, hopefully they should be here today

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Re: First Timer
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hey greatone, i agree with everyone else on this one. trust me man before the first time i shroomed, I read all the FAQs on this page like 60,000 damn times and i totally thought i was prepared, 100% sure. i was wrong, and i only ate half an eigth and smoked some bud. my advice, eat half an eigth and don't smoke weed. i was having a blast off half eigth, seeing some nice visuals, but that weed propelled it into a level 3 trip which was too much. i was being literally flooded with imagery, it felt like i was floating around in my brain and i couldn't just tell myself that it was the drugs and it would all go away. you don't understand the concept of loss of reality yet, which means you forget a lot of the concepts of normal reality. therefore, thinking of this "drug" you took doesn't really make any sense. anyway, bottom line - stick with half an eigth, you'll have a blast. stay away from weed when yer peaking too. ?have fun!

ps - hey lilskit that one about the blood and shit everywhere was fuckin scary as shit man. i didn't even wanna think about that. good description!


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Re: First Timer
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Thanks bro, I was going to smoke some weed while I was tripping to. Thanks for the heads up. If everything is cool during my peak, I'll hit the joint, if not then no weed for me

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Re: First Timer
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yea thats cool. just remember what i said about my trip. if you are already gettin good visuals (i saw my floor breathing with vine patterns coming out of it) and you are feelin good you may not wanna push it. coz I just thought since i was having such a good trip that smokin weed would increase the euphoria when it infact ruined my trip. so if you're not trippin and your dissapointed yea take a few tokes and see how you feel.

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I was gonna smoke some weed when I started to come down, I think thats what I'm gonna do.

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