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Icelander
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: zen buddy]
#9850444 - 02/23/09 02:19 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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My wife and I polyamorous which means we are free to explore love and sexual relationships with others. People who live honest lives are not easier to control. Enjoying life to its fullest with other open-minded individuals is something we could all strive for. The real problem is all the lying and betrayal going on because of the stupid notion that having many lovers is wrong. It makes sense that a society full of lying and cheating spouses would be easier to control and that maybe the real government control comes from convincing society that promiscuity is wrong.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9850715 - 02/23/09 03:07 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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lines nothing in history has caused more perversions and mental illness that the prohibitions on sex that you advocate
my guess is that most saints were mentally ill (rather than spiritually enlightened ) from trying to suppress there sex drive
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: arainbow]
#9850721 - 02/23/09 03:08 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Like the Priests for instance.
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9851322 - 02/23/09 04:48 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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priestess used to be whores back in the day. im sure it was something simlar for priest in the fact that they did rituals of a sexual nature with priestesses
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: thedudenj]
#9851332 - 02/23/09 04:50 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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ahh... the good ol days.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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thedudenj
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9851367 - 02/23/09 04:58 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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yeah werd its why im not abstainate anymore
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9878595 - 02/27/09 04:14 PM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Icelander said:
My wife and I polyamorous which means we are free to explore love and sexual relationships with others.
That's awesome. I had a feeling about you.
It is my personal opinion that the more you can let go of the common social restrictions placed on relationships, the more control you have of your own. That is not to say that you have 'control' over a partner but rather your self.
Think for a moment, about what exactly jealousy would mean to most people if it were not programmed into them from the beginning? I witnessed a terrible destruction of countless relationships because it was not possible for people in my life to conform to the social restraint. The personal torture they experienced as a result of this programming was devastating to say the least.
Humans are strangely uncomfortable with their sexual nature. People are tense. They hold up all this stress about interaction with each other because of social implications. What the fuck? Examine yourself! Don't pretend you do not lust, love and seek comfort. Sometimes conditions make sense...inbreeding and shit like that...it has a point. But feeling as though you can't hug your family. Or feeling awkward about cuddling up with your friends, your family? That's messed up.
Maybe I'm just a weirdo. This weirdo likes the idea of affection though, I've seen enough fucked up shit happen due to people trying to ignore and control it that I'm sure that its best left to follow its own course and to hell with the rest.
I've probably posted this before, but I agree with it whole heartily.
"Indecency, vulgarity, obscenity--these are strictly confined to man; he invented them. Among the higher animals there is no trace of them. They hide nothing; they are not ashamed. Man, with his soiled mind, covers himself. He will not even enter a drawing room with his breast and back naked, so alive are he and his mates to indecent suggestion. Man is "The Animal that Laughs." But so does the monkey, as Mr. Darwin pointed out; and so does the Australian bird that is called the laughing jack-ass. No--Man is the Animal that Blushes. He is the only one that does it--or has occasion to." - "The Lowest Animal"
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: justamonkey]
#9878687 - 02/27/09 04:24 PM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Dood, I don't think that quote was from me. However I do agree.
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9879305 - 02/27/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Dood, I don't think that quote was from me. However I do agree.
Ha, I see now. You quoted someone else, but I thought you said it.
Its all good though.
-------------------- [quote]We don't need anyone to teach us sorcery, because there is really nothing to learn. What we need is a teacher to convince us that there is incalculable power at our fingertips. What a strange paradox! Every warrior on the path of knowledge thinks, at one time or another, that he's learning sorcery, but all he's doing is allowing himself to be convinced of the power hidden in his being, and that he can reach it. [/quote]-Carlos Casteneda
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: justamonkey]
#9894074 - 03/01/09 11:26 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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dude i love having alot of female friends i can cuddle with and the ones that i have a more sexual relationship. i think love is the real key when everyone has love and respect for each other and everyone else, society takes on a different course and doors open up. when its about love and not control.
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: thedudenj]
#9895444 - 03/02/09 09:31 AM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Well of course.
Even if the sex is casual that doesn't mean you have no good will or regard for the other party.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9895548 - 03/02/09 09:52 AM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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yeah casual sex in alot of situations isnt a good thing, people are bars disgust me, the type that are like i just fucked this bitch blah blah
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: thedudenj]
#9895563 - 03/02/09 09:57 AM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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mostly bullshit anyway. But that's what some chicks are looking for too. I knew chicks in college that only wanted to fuck and then get away from you.
Actually in a prefect world friendly uncommitted fucking would be the norm.
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thedudenj
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9895664 - 03/02/09 10:25 AM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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yeah they are called whores...
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: thedudenj]
#9896158 - 03/02/09 11:56 AM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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No they're not. They're people just like the guys that fuck them.
Take your bullshit elsewhere.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9896295 - 03/02/09 12:17 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Actually in a prefect world friendly uncommitted fucking would be the norm.
I do agree.
Humans are innately sexual beings. We have all these inner drives and metaphysical motivations. We eat when hungry. We fuck when horny. We sleep when tired. To distance yourself from your natural drives makes you feeling incomplete; wanting more. It's almost like drinking water when your hungry. It physically fills up your stomach, but it doesn't fully satisfy.
From a biological standpoint, humans can't help but be sexual creatures. We evolved to stand upright, ultimately revealing our genetilia, making us more inclined to use them. Women, like any other female mammalia, have certain times of the year when they are most likely to get pregnant; or in other words, are in heat. The only problem is that there are little to no physical signs signifying the beginning of ovulation, the period of the menstrual cycle that is optimum for copulation. So what did our ancestors do to make sure their genetics are being passed down? Fucked savagely, and with no remorse.
So, in retrospect, we have evolved to be some sexual mother fuckers. Embrace sexuality, and be comfortable with your own. In the long run, you will be happier satisfying your sexual hungers, rather than trying to silence them.
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: meatcakeman]
#9896466 - 03/02/09 12:40 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Interesting how we became so sexually inhibited as a species. Why do you think that was?
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: Icelander]
#9896529 - 03/02/09 12:48 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Interesting how we became so sexually inhibited as a species. Why do you think that was?
I don't know, but perhaps it at least helped delay the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: deCypher]
#9897024 - 03/02/09 02:22 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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yeah those guys are whores too...
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Re: Sexual Promiscuity & State Control [Re: thedudenj]
#9897172 - 03/02/09 02:57 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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prude
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